Why are we handing Tua the Miami starting job again?

Agreed, minus the two atrocious picks

 

That’s what I said and why I bumped the thread for bro.

 

Bro belongs in the “why are people with Down’s so cocky” thread

 

I don’t care about Tua in the NFL. I had trouble liking Tua due to his weird Christian stuff.

I just legitimately think you’re a moron. Reading your bad takes on pretty much any topic is a sight to see.

 

To be fair, that same dolphins front office are morons, which you are also arguing.

 

Glad he threw the two INTs to get the Marino comp

 

Imagine thinking that the most incompetent and poorly run FO's in all of football agreeing with you is a good thing

 

Everyone has to see the Watson stuff for what it is especially the way Tua has played the past two weeks. It's two desperate men trying to do something that can buy them more time. They need to be fired, all of them. They're the problem with this team not Tua

 

My main issue with a Watson trade, aside from the sexual assault stuff, is that it's a transparent Hail Mary to save their jobs after a botched rebuild. If you're gonna trade for Watson you need to fire Grier, Flores and everyone else regardless of that fact. You're spinning tires otherwise.

 

Wouldn't that be the same front office that drafted him? Doesn't seem like this logic would square

 

But if he was as awful as you claim the defensive rank wouldn't matter. Why are you now moving the goal posts?

We've gone from he's horrible and not a starter too, well he's only good against bad pass defenses. Which is it?

 

Why aren't you making threads on those QB's then as well????? What's your obsession with this young QB who has yet to play 16 games? Shouldn't you have one big thread on QB's unworthy of being starters?

 

Just want to say I love this thread

 

Last two weeks were against bad defenses but it's also true that the offensive cast he's played with the last two weeks is bad. Worst pass blocking team in football (according to PFF and ESPNs pass block win rate). Also 2 of his top 3 WRs out. Below average running game.

 

fwiw Tua ranks just ahead of Lamar, Wyoming Cowboys legend Josh Allen, Stafford and Brady in completion % above expectation

 

hell yes what a drop in. VIVA suttree

 

Tua played at Alabama and now the Dolphins. He's a Vols and Bills fan.

 

Do you have those rankings handy?

 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards

with FootballOutsiders putting basically everything behind a paywall, Next Gen Stats has become a really nice resource

it should be noted that Tua's average intended air yards lags behind Lamar and Allen, but he's right around Herbert and Mahomes

 

One point of contention I have with the "Tua sucks" crowd is that the common critique is that he's "checkdown Tua" but the stats just don't bear that out. He just hasn't been fortunate enough to have guys that can make something happen after the catch. I love Gesicki but he has all the wiggle of a cement block after the catch. Same with Parker. The rest of these jokers don't even count. Hoping Waddle can change that.

 

looking at those Next Gen Stats, Cole Beasley and Waddle have the same average targeted air yards which seems ridiculous. He has speed that should make him a big time threat down the field but I guess Flores doesn't want to use him that way?

Dolphins, Bears and Texans are all putting on impressive displays of organizational dysfunction. Say what you want about the Jets, Jags and Lions but they all at least have some kind of plan in place right now whereas the GMs in Miami, Chicago and Houston seem like they're doing their best Captain Ahab impersonations

 

The Dolphins should just hand the ball off to him and see how Kamara he can be

 

I think it's 50% organization incompetence and 50% having the worst pass blocking OL in football.

But there's definitely incompetence because if you look at Waddle's route charts hes hardly even attempting anything deep but we have our 2nd and 3rd TEs running those 20+ yard routes. It's bewildering.

 

I’m not really too involved in this but I feel check down Tua stems from college. Not the NFL.

 

It was only on this board and it was as stupid then as it is now. He's never been a check down guy.

 

im just glad the its never tuas fault ever crowd is here to check bro on his biases

 

Main complaint in the champs thread “I wish he’d take the easy throw sometimes”

 

And that IAY is less than Justin Fields and Sam Darnold.

And yeah football outsiders hiding their stuff trying to make it some secret sauce isn't worth it. And those metrics are also in player stats in football-reference.com.

 

Tua literally died against MISSISSIPPI STATE because he wasn’t bout that check down life. He fucked around and found out

 

he did get called that first in college before the NFL, you're right.

 

They haven’t run a single jet sweep to him. It’s insanity.