Why is Theo Von suddenly everywhere?

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  1. Where Eagles Dare

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    Just wait for him to stutter one time and that's all they'll run with
     
  2. tylerdolphin

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    Will Trump do a debate though? I feel like with him ducking the Republican debates he's finally realized that sounding like a lunatic on a stage like that doesn't help him. Seems like he'll invent some excuse about the debate conditions being unfair and not bother with it.
     
  3. Redav

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    Had nothing to gain by doing the Republican debates.
     
  4. tylerdolphin

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    Fair enough but what does he gain by doing a debate before the general election and sounding like the lunatic he is?
     
  5. Lyrtch

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    I do think it's like 50/50 Trump does one especially if polling looks similar to now, especially as RNC has banned candidates from doing the normal presidential debates

    what will be wild is Biden/RFK Jr duo debate
     
  6. Redav

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    Yeah I think he can only lose by doing a debate with Biden but I'm not sure he or his advisors will be as convinced of that .
     
  7. Josey Wales

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    Looks like a lot of communism.

    it is I, a bad faith contrarian!
     
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  8. Redav

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    He's by far the best president of my lifetime while I'm also pretty eh about him in general because that's such a low bar.
     
  9. Josey Wales

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    Becoming an adult means realizing the imperfections and failures of people, including your own country. The biden admin has done a lot of good things, no doubt.

    we’d be in year 3 of trump crying like a bitch how his predecessor fucked up the economy. Biden could’ve easily juxtaposed the economy in Jan 2017 vs Jan 2021. Probably should have.

    I’m still cleaning up my disgraced predecessors shit. And then invite all the contractors he’s stiffed to the first debate.
     
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  10. Redav

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    There is no comparison between he and Trump. I mean he's worlds better.
     
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  11. Bo Pelinis

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    It doesn't hurt that I had incredibly low expectations of a Biden presidency. I thought, at best, he'd be a placeholder that kept Trump out of office until both died and we had some younger person better able to govern. Like, completely status quo after Trump's insanity. Surprisingly, he's been bullied into some leftier positions and he's been good enough at deal making to get some of that shit done. A lot of it is not ideal but it's a start in the right direction.
     
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  12. audrew

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    I want a classy President, not a Class-C President!
     
  13. IV

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    You think Trump is going to win?
     
  14. Arrec Bardwin

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    Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people
     
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  15. IV

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    Sure, just seems early to hold that conviction
     
  16. Redav

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    If I had to bet, no but I have 2016 PTSD so who knows
     
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  17. steamengine

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  18. IV

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  19. Redav

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    I think we lost Druce
     
  20. steamengine

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    On one hand Joe Biden is three years older than trump, on the other hand


    The QAnon Shaman Isn’t Even the Most Extreme Candidate in His Race for Congress

    Jacob Chansley, the January 6 rioter known as the QAnon Shaman, will run for Congress in Arizona. The most remarkable thing about his campaign so far is how unremarkable it is in a state that’s embraced election conspiracies.

    https://www.wired.com/story/qanon-shaman-runs-for-office/
     
  21. IronLung

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    Are we really Biden apologists here? Maybe I’m too far left but I don’t consider his tenure a success just because the alternative is hell
     
  22. Lyrtch

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    If you're far left the material dynamics of his presidency have been very positive

    Unless we're moving into revolutionary left area then that can be bad and why lots of leftists have mixed feelings about fdr
     
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  23. Lyrtch

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    There's an odd dynamic where Biden has consolidated his support among the left wing to like 98 percent and has lost support of moderates down to the 50s but going by online vibes it feels very different.

    All of this pre Israel*
     
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  24. Druce

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    I read the responses, I just haven't felt the impact of really anything thats been done. Definitely not getting into my own personal situation here but by and large the economy doesn't feel like its any better to me personally.
     
  25. Bo Pelinis

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    Do you own a home? Probably worth a lot more than it was worth a few years ago. Do you have investments? Probably worth near historical highs. Also do you recognize that presidents can be good presidents for the country even if they don't mail you a check (which Biden also likely did) or cut your taxes?
     
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  26. wes tegg

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    Does it feel like it is worse for you personally than it was in the fall of 2020?
     
  27. Lyrtch

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    He did mail him a check though
     
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  28. Bo Pelinis

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    Yeah I edited my post
     
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  29. Bo Pelinis

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    Missed opportunity was keeping the expanded prepaid child tax credit. That would make a material difference in a ton of lives but alas, fuck Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema.
     
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  30. Bo Pelinis

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    Also letting universal federal school lunch funding expire without a lot of fanfare was a huge mistake.
     
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  31. Lyrtch

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    Renewal rules for snap, Medicaid, and such as well. Been a decent cut to social welfare with COVID exceptions falling away sadly
     
  32. wes tegg

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    I have a friend who has a super high income, his company is operating at historical levels and aggressively expanding, and his stay-at-home wife (who is a really great person just not at all politically informed) was telling us Saturday night about how worried she was about the economy. So, don’t underestimate the vibes from retail price hikes.
     
  33. Druce

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    Condescension isn't going to get you anywhere with me personally. Also, I think its a reach to attribute the rise in home prices to the president. The rise in home prices can greatly be attributed to corporations buying inventory with cash and causing a shortage for actual people trying to buy new homes forcing a lot to rent from said corporations, also home equity is essentially useless when interest rates are so high that you'd have to pay a ton of interest on a HELOC if you wanted to liquidate any of it.
     
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  34. Lyrtch

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    People having no ability to understand purchasing power is real bad for broader political projects

    Human brains too simple
     
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    Guys we’ve seen this 1000 times.


    Druce probably lives in a suburb of a purple city and water cooler talks at his kids sports games likely revolves around some GOP for lifers laughing about what dementia Joe did this time! Our poor poster is probably embarrassed because he needs to hide the secret he didn’t vote for Trump.
     
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  36. TrustyPatches

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    I think the whole “your home is worth way more than it was” is not a good thing to highlight. It’s probably speaking more to his problem with the administration
     
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  37. Druce

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    For me personally, yes, but I worked in the mortgage industry and lost my job as a result of the market and have had such a difficult time finding something new that I'm completely changing careers (to something that ultimately I will enjoy much more and will be more enriching so not all bad)
     
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  38. Lyrtch

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    The bold is a fraction of a fraction of it. Been talked about a bunch but the majority of non personal home purchases are by small time landlords not big corporations
     
  39. Bo Pelinis

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    I'm not being condescending. Everything in your couple posts was about how Biden has helped you personally. I was attempting to change the framing of the conversation. Also home equity isn't useless when most peoples' largest asset is their home. If your house is worth substantially more than you paid for it that's a good thing for most people. And rates will go down. Probably in the next 6-8 months. Just depends on when exactly and by how much.

    Also also we could have a conversation about how decades of artificially low rates aren't actually good for the economy
     
  40. Lyrtch

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    Going to throw up at people still saying interest rates are high when they're only that way in comparison to the last decade

    But hey we getting cuts in March anyway
     
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  41. Lyrtch

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    We're never getting full unemployment slightly higher inflation and interest rates but robust wage growth because people's brains too smooth. Austerity always wins.
     
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  42. Druce

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    I've never had any problem discussing/arguing with my republican friends about my political stance and don't care if their opinions are different from mine. At the end of the day, the vocal minority on the left is losing me by ostracizing and demonizing anyone who doesn't agree with each and every topic they happen to be trumpeting at that time. The very same thing happens on this board, and the complete lack of self awareness is staggering. Not say thats you or Bo Pelinis , more of a general statement.
     
  43. Can I Spliff it

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    I clicked on this thread hoping to see people dunk on the living embodiment of teen sitcom main character's older brother's loser friend getting dunked on
     
  44. Lyrtch

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    Resentment politics oh boy
     
  45. Bo Pelinis

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    I get they are annoying as fuck (several posters on this board fit the bill) but the vocal minority (could be close to majority tbh) on the right are worse because they want to take away democracy and make Trump a dictator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025). That's worse than being treated like an idiot by some fart sniffing leftist imo
     
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  46. Druce

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    Oh I don't disagree with that what so ever. I won't ever vote republican...ever. In a trump vs. Biden election I'm 100% voting for Biden, but the point I'm trying to make is that someone left-center such as myself is getting lost in the shuffle, imo.
     
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  47. Bo Pelinis

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    My least fav people are the ones that treat the two parties and candidates like they aren't actually any different. That's where your idiot above the fray centrists and leftist accelerationists do this:

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  48. Bo Pelinis

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    Idk I feel like Biden is about as center left as you can get for American politics. It's taken a good bit for him to even be left of center compared to his historical politics.
     
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  49. Redav

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    Are you saying you vote based on how you get treated online?
     
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  50. Fran Tarkenton

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    youre more explaining the gilded age 2.0 we are living in

    middle class is at bay, while wealth accumulation at the top (and bottom) is reaching unsustainable levels.

    Biden govt, in conjunction with dem congress, did a good job navigating post-pandemic variables while also avoiding a recession. Also, they did a good job tampering the inflation hand they were dealt while doing a stimulus package that was fully paid for by redistributing wealth from the top. The prior govt over-cooked the economy with unnecessary tax breaks, then added in an initial pandemic stimulus. So what the biden govt was facing on inflation was very ominous.
     
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