Winston vs Mariota thread: "Generational" back-up QBs

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  1. DuffandMuff

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    Mariota completed 30 percent of his passes (6-of-20), the lowest completion percentage in a win (minimum 20 attempts) since JaMarcus Russell completed 29.2 percent (7-of-24) against the Chiefs in 2009.

    Does this mean mariota is a skinnier Jamarcus?

    Jameis failed to account for a TD on Sunday. First time that's happened in his college/pro career. Both of their teams were able to pull out wins in spite of the lackluster performances.
     
  2. LetItSoak

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    Winston now #9 in DVOA on Football Outsiders while MM is #10. The order was reversed last week so advanced metrics have them basically even and both top 10 in the league.

    * Total QBR has them 9 and 11 respectively as well
     
  3. The Banks

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    Gross
     
  4. DAT.ass

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    Denver also has the best passing Defense in the league by a good margin. Von Miller up the ass all day
     
  5. two

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    Didn't Jameis look like complete shit against Denver?
     
  6. miles

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    17/35 for 179 and 2 picks

    You can pretty much give both of them a pass.
     
  7. dblplay1212

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    Mariota was just carted off. Tackled by the ankles but couldn't tell much. Hope it's not as serious as they made it look.
     
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  9. miles

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    Sounds like a foot
     
  10. Handcuffed

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    It's likely a broken ankle/lower leg and/or some torn ligaments or something. He was sacked by a DL and his right ankle was rolled and landed on.

    It was put in an air cast and carted off.
     
  11. dblplay1212

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    Ankle. They put an air cast on it right away. He knew right away that he was hurt. Didn't try to get up or anything.
     
  12. dblplay1212

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    It was kind of weird watching it. Normally players react in some way but he didn't at all. He landed face down, stayed that way for a second, then rolled over and sat up and just waited for them to come get him. They called for the cart as soon as they got to him. It seemed like he knew right away it was broken and told them just that and they called for the cart. He was just stoic through the whole thing.
     
  13. duc15

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  14. fsutony

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    That sucks I was enjoying both him and Winston doing well. He had a good season.
     
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  15. RoyalShocker

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    Probably went straight into shock. I've broken bones before and it almost doesn't hurt. You know something is wrong obviously but you don't necessarily go writhing around in agony.
     
  16. Handcuffed

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    it was this one (so far)

    i guess all things considered, that's pretty good. suggests there's not ligament damage + the little bones in the ankles and feet can be tough to heal. a leg usually heals easily.
     
  17. Damion

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    Thankfully our season just ended today so he has the entire off-season to heal.
     
  18. Fancy

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    Cliffs: Marcus is a better QB
     
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  19. HOOSINSC

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    sorry, but stats are for nerds.
     
  20. Fancy

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    if liking stats make me a gay nerd then consider me Louis Holth
     
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  21. HOOSINSC

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    wow that is very gay... and nerdy. he's like the Einstein of smoking cock
     
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  22. LetItSoak

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    Are we ignoring the #6 rushing offense vs #28?
     
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  23. DuffandMuff

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    They would both be lucky to sniff Dak's jockstrap.
     
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  24. War Grundle

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    I would say they are pretty even and have done better than most at their age. Winston is the better passer and can handle more thrown at him but Mariota takes care of the ball better and is more dynamic. I doubt either team would trade one for the other.
     
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  25. Fancy

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    why would they want to do that? gross

    Stats say Marcus is better, so
     
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  26. Teflon Queen

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    Winston is worse at taking care of the ball than Mariota? Eww. Mariota's ball protection cost the Titans about 3 games and the playoffs.
     
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  27. Arkadin

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    11 turnovers on a year is pretty good. Winston was much worse, as were most people
     
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  28. War Grundle

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    He throws it more but he also takes a lot of chances and has thrown 33 INTs his first two years. He tries to make something out of nothing too many times.

    As I said thought both guys have played a lot better than 98% of other QBs in the first two years considering they both took over 2-14 teams and now have them one game out of the playoffs.

    Shit Jameis just turned 23. He's younger than Dak is now.
     
  29. Arkadin

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    neither are derek carr, but thats to be expected
     
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  30. The Banks

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    If Jameis helped his rushing offense like Mariota did then Tampa would have the 13th ranked rushing offense.
     
  31. Sterling A

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    are you saying the Titans OL is the same as the Bucs OL?
     
  32. Arkadin

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    Look at all these fsu guys and their alternative facts
     
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  33. miles

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    Mariota has a better line. Winston has an ace #1 receiver.

    Fin
     
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  34. miles

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    Though actually when it comes to pass protection TB's and Tennessee's are almost identical, statistically.
     
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  35. Louis Holth

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  36. ugata_hata

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    Um, Winston isn't glass either.
     
  37. Handcuffed

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    Mariota turned 23 a couple of months ago. He's younger than Dak, too. And they're both younger than Wentz.
     
  38. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    winston also plays in a real division where as memeiota plays in a meme division that is the AFC east away from being the biggest joke in football
     
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  39. Fancy

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    what a post
     
  40. DuffandMuff

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    Hard to help your rushing offense when the starting RB is in rehab for coke. There's something about professional athletes in Tampa and their affinity for the Peruvian.
     
  41. Arkadin

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    I believe he means if Winston put up the same rushing numbers as mariota
     
  42. DuffandMuff

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    Ah, well of course. That makes a lot more sense.
     
  43. NoNatty

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  45. Can I Spliff it

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    Mariota makes his team softer
     
  46. Handcuffed

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    what does dichotomy mean
     
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  47. fsudan

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    Jameis
     
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  48. ned's head

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    Surprised pff didn't include a stat on bed making, where mm is truly elite
     
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  49. Mitch Cumstein

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    I had both in ff
     
  50. Sterling A

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