Woman Missing as Boyfriend Returns from Trip Alone

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by bcuga, Sep 14, 2021 at 2:52 PM.

  1. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    I've thought about this scenario too, regardless of ownership of the van, they lived together in FL. So in the event of a break up, they could have mutually agreed that he would take the van back to FL while she continued on a journey quest, however unlikely.

    hiring the lawyer doesn't really raise anything for me, but completely refusing to cooperate with her family certainly does under this scenario.
     
  2. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis You did it! Congratulations!
    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersBig 8 Conference

    Right, don't ever talk to the cops. That's just a rule. Even if this guy is a guilty piece of shit, which he probably is, you don't ever talk to the cops without a lawyer. Ever ever.
     
    Mix, GoodForAnother, undrtow and 10 others like this.
  3. TC

    TC Eli Porter is a mindset
    Donor
    South Carolina GamecocksCarolina PanthersCarolina Hurricanes

    [​IMG]
     
  4. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    I'm a big Occam's Razor guy, but I have a feeling this is going to get more complicated.
     
  5. electronic

    electronic It’s satire!
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsCharlotte Hornets

    Wouldn't be surprised. People who decide to live in a van and travel the country can end up in some very weird situations by choice or circumstance.

    I would be shocked if this guy did not have a criminal role in her disappearance.
     
  6. Lawnole23

    Lawnole23 FSU Seminoles 2020 National Champions
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesTampa Bay RaysTampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay Lightning

    Because he does not have to voluntarily speak to the police at any time. He can refuse to a say a word to them ever. They can arrest him. Interrogate him. However, they can't make him discuss it with them. If you didn't kill your girlfriend you think you he would want to help find her though.
     
  7. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis You did it! Congratulations!
    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersBig 8 Conference

    I think this guy is very like guilty

    (Stephen A. Smith voice) ....BUT....

    we've seen a metric fuckton of wrongful convictions highlighted in the 10 years so I'd avoid giving law enforcement the benefit of the doubt in a thing like this or really ever.
     
  8. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    [​IMG]
     
  9. bwi2

    bwi2 Not affiliated with BWI
    Donor
    Duke Blue DevilsWashington NationalsArsenalUSA Basketball

    Let’s assume he didn’t do it:

    If she walks out by herself (vision quest scenario), don’t you tell the police, or at least the family, exactly when and where?

    If they fought over some third party, or if there is literally anyone else you can inculpate, don’t you immediately point the finger at that other dude as the motherfucker who saw her last?

    I think in either scenario, the failure to provide a plausible alternative to the obvious answer only raises the likelihood that he’s going to end up detained, and ultimately prosecuted (and sued), for killing her. So, if he didn’t do it, his lawyer should advise him to make himself available.
     
  10. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersDenver NuggetsBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

  11. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    Playing devil's advocate, there's a possibility that he acted criminally without causing her death. For example, he could have beaten her up and she ran off. He wouldn't want to tell the police, because they'd want to know why. And, he wouldn't have anyone else to implicate.

    Again, improbable, but possible.
     
    PSU12, laxjoe, ARCO and 5 others like this.
  12. UKupNorth

    UKupNorth Well-Known Member

    I mean, he technically stole her car and drove it across the country. Can't they bring him in on that?
     
    ~ taylor ~ and Keef like this.
  13. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    This is the opposite of technically.
     
  14. Shiggityshwo

    Shiggityshwo Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesAtlanta UnitedUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    no but Bon Iver is so you know that fucker did it
     
  15. bwi2

    bwi2 Not affiliated with BWI
    Donor
    Duke Blue DevilsWashington NationalsArsenalUSA Basketball

    He already knows that the police know that they had some sort of fight
     
    ashy larry and IowaHuskerFan3 like this.
  16. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    Weeks before in a different place, right? Wouldn't that make more sense for why he wouldn't call the cops to potentially tell on himself if he were under the impression that she was going to them?
     
    Tiffin likes this.
  17. HotMic

    HotMic Insider
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesCleveland BrownsKent State Golden FlashesCleveland CavaliersCleveland Indians

    I know I am!
     
    Tiffin and UncleJesse like this.
  18. ono

    ono Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Kansas JayhawksKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsSeattle SupersonicsSporting Kansas City

    A thought I had was that maybe they were trespassing or otherwise exploring an area they shouldn't have been, she fell off a cliff or something, and he just panicked.

    But yeah you'd think he'd at least admit to trespassing or something in order to find her and stay out of even deeper shit rather than drive home for a week and keeping his mouth shut.
     
  19. UKupNorth

    UKupNorth Well-Known Member

    TY
     
    Walt Disney and wes tegg like this.
  20. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    maybe she faked her own death and is starting over and he's helping so that is why he won't talk

    that's the dream right there
     
  21. ~ taylor ~

    ~ taylor ~ Boom... head shot.
    Donor TMB OG

    Goddamned right he's not letting King George blast into his living room and set up a cot.
     
  22. UncleJesse

    UncleJesse Did I invent hip-hop? No, but I was there.
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesPhoenix SunsDallas Cowboys

    Maybe she met Eric Lannon at a Phish concert at Red Rocks and ran off with him.
     
  23. JGator1

    JGator1 I'm the Michael Jordan of the industry
    TMB OG
    Florida GatorsTampa Bay RaysTampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay LightningChelsea

    Just like Johnny 50 said, you take the 5th Commandment

     
    Tex, WolverineJack, TC and 3 others like this.
  24. bwi2

    bwi2 Not affiliated with BWI
    Donor
    Duke Blue DevilsWashington NationalsArsenalUSA Basketball

    I misread the dates - I thought it was the day before her last social media post.

    I’m just not seeing the circumstances in which the absence of a counter narrative helps the innocent (or culpable, but not of her death) version of him. Maybe he’s saving it for the trial?
     
  25. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

  26. Bruce Bowen

    Bruce Bowen Well-Known Member
    Donor

    Dog gonna use his secret truth serum
    it's meth.
     
  27. HotMic

    HotMic Insider
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesCleveland BrownsKent State Golden FlashesCleveland CavaliersCleveland Indians

     
    construxboy likes this.
  28. ~ taylor ~

    ~ taylor ~ Boom... head shot.
    Donor TMB OG

    Boom, Felony Murder.
     
    40wwttamgib likes this.
  29. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    i'm learning a lot about what i should and should not do if i ever find myself in a similar situation
     
  30. BuckeyeRiot

    BuckeyeRiot Team Nicki
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesBoston Red SoxPhiladelphia EaglesKent State Golden FlashesCleveland Cavaliers

    Like any woman would willingly get in your van.
     
  31. Jack Parkman

    Jack Parkman Endorsed by Fred McGriff
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Florida GatorsMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsMiami Heat

    bro you may be on to something here

    they told friends there was a weird guy at the campsite by them

    was the date of the incident the Moab PD investigated around the same time as the murders?
     
    Whiskers McSchitty and devine like this.
  32. IV

    IV Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideUAB BlazersDemocratAvengersBirmingham LegionUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Let’s not be cat people
     
    lunchbox, CBH, PAHokie and 8 others like this.
  33. WC

    WC Bad Company, ‘til the day I die.
    Donor TMB OG
    North Carolina State WolfpackAtlanta BravesCarolina PanthersCarolina HurricanesUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    He likely regularly drove it and had her permission to do so, which would mean it isn’t theft. At worst it’s an unauthorized use but you’d probably need her around to say he wasn’t allowed to drive it anymore.

    Now if he pushed her off a cliff and took it that’s obviously problematic.
     
  34. Taffy

    Taffy Token Brit poster
    Donor

    Lip, One Two, Jack Parkman and 9 others like this.
  35. RockHardJawn39

    RockHardJawn39 StEvIS_iN_cBuS/LandlordBob stalks me
    Donor
    Penn State Nittany LionsSan Francisco GiantsPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia FlyersLiverpoolWrexham AFC

    Twitter account getting snippy

     
    RalfBully, PAHokie, Lip and 10 others like this.
  36. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersDenver NuggetsBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

  37. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    God damnit.
     
    GoodForAnother, One Two, sem and 8 others like this.
  38. IowaHuskerFan3

    IowaHuskerFan3 I husk hard
    Nebraska CornhuskersAtlanta Braves

    It’s the police, when are they not snippy.
     
    Duck2013 and SD_Irish like this.
  39. Petito

    Petito coys
    Donor
    Nebraska CornhuskersNew York YankeesSan Francisco 49'ersTottenham Hotspur

    Can he not be charged with auto theft because the van was never reported stolen? Weird gray area if that's the case. If the FBI really believes she is still alive I would think they would get him on that just to bring him in.

    While I agree this dude is most likely a killer I will echo that no one should ever voluntarily talk to the police without a lawyer, even if you are legitimately trying to help. And absolutely never agree to take a polygraph.
     
  40. electronic

    electronic It’s satire!
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsCharlotte Hornets

     
    Dump, WC and Petito like this.
  41. The Banks

    The Banks TMB's Alaskan
    Donor TMB OG
    Oregon DucksGreen Bay PackersDetroit Red WingsBayern Munich

    Isn’t that just joyriding?
     
  42. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    Obviously, I hope she's fine and safe and is reunited with her family soon.

    [​IMG]

    If that isn't the case, from a pure entertainment standpoint, I'm pulling for the zone of death/6th amendment "loophole" to see how that plays out.
     
  43. TC

    TC Eli Porter is a mindset
    Donor
    South Carolina GamecocksCarolina PanthersCarolina Hurricanes

    Stephen A. Smith is making some dynamite drop-ins ITT
     
  44. electronic

    electronic It’s satire!
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsCharlotte Hornets

    Shocker, Tegg is rooting for the lawyers in this one.
     
  45. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    i can't keep up, she didn't get reported missing until 10 days after he got home?
     
    laxjoe, One Two, 40wwttamgib and 3 others like this.
  46. Bo Pelinis

    Bo Pelinis You did it! Congratulations!
    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersBig 8 Conference

    It'd be interesting in that it's been a known loophole for years and like lots of other things in this country nobody has given enough of a shit to fix it so I get the appeal.
     
    wes tegg likes this.
  47. bro

    bro Hey Hermano
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersDenver NuggetsBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

    yes
     
  48. HuskerInMiami

    HuskerInMiami Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Miami DolphinsNebraska Cornhuskers

    If you were the guy, and you killed her in the naitonal park, what would you do?

    Your only option would be to try and start a new life. They had to have had some cash or savings set aside for their trip.

    I don't think I would have chosen the option of... go home and hide in my parents basement.
     
  49. nofatchildren

    nofatchildren Bull Moose Till I Die
    Donor TMB OG
    Los Angeles DodgersMilwaukee BucksTampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay LightningTiger Woods

    "I dropped her off at the train station."
     
    One Two, shivious, UncleJesse and 5 others like this.