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Discussion in 'Soccer Board' started by SugarShaun, Sep 6, 2016.
Sane got cut
As good as he is, he’s never produced for Germany
Seems like a dumb decision
This is what happens when you're German and don't agree to go to Bayern.
You really gonna question Joachim?
Yeah the paranoia in me thinks this will push him faster to Bayern
the Messi + Paper magazine shoot could have easily been incredibly corny
I love it
I get the reasoning, but it's crazy to me Sane won't be in Russia.
I’m hard team sane and went straight to the bargaining stage of grief. He wasn’t going to play over Reus Özil Müller goretzka Draxler anyway.
can they call him in when Reus picks up an injury in the first match?
It'll be worse when he's never the same from this :'(
Not sure which is worse Sane not going or Nainggolan not going (fuck you Martinez you cunt)
Belgium should build their midfield around Nainggolan. Martinez is just a retarded sociopath.
This is when I rub it in that I always liked Kimmich the best out of this generation.
its so dumb. Fuck i hate it. we wont score any goals
Finally bit the bullet and put a bet down on Belgium because I saw the odds gradually sliding away. Don't believe they'll win but thought it was the best value on the board and wanted a team to pull for (my grandmother is Icelandic and I have lots of family there I keep in touch with, but I'm being realistic).
Big fan of a lot of the squad, mostly Chelsea boys (including Batshuayi) and Mertens. Missing personal FIFA favorites Jordan Lukaku and Nainggolan though. Not the biggest Martinez fan so I'm sure I'll bitch about that plenty.
Anyway go Red Devils.
I fear this is a transition tournament where the kimmich- Werner - goretzka - sane generation isn’t ready to star and the Özil generation isn’t quite as sharp
Spain 6/1. Fuck it let's roll.
Dumb af to not bring Sane
7/1 here :)
He’s significantly better than Brandt but Brandt has produced, Sane has only himself to blame
this is nice
Fun read. Kinda crazy looking at some of the lesser known teams. Surprised me that pretty much the entire Senegalese team is on a club in Europe.
Kimmich - Süle - Hummels - hector
Kroos - goretzka - Khedira
Özil - Timo - Reus
what I’d want from the 11 post sane news for Germany. Özil or Müller is a hard pick
Perfectly set up to lose 1-0 to espain or 2-0 to France
Dolberg to lead the line.
How many players from Senegal are from France it grew up there?
I'm bored so looked it up
8 from France and 1 from Spain
that's less than i thought tbh
Sane wouldn't play because Reus is first choice and Ozil can also slide into the LW if Low wants Kroos higher up. Draxler and Werner can also play LW. Germany had chemistry issues at Euro 2012 from the bench and Low wants to avoid it. Brandt has more flexibility, defends, is well liked within the squad and can accept a bench role. Only game he probably gets is the third group stage game after advancement has already been secured.
Sane has never performed well for the National team anyways.
This is Reus's tournament. He is going to ball the fuck out.
That’s what it will end up being but I always like Germany better in a 433 with 3 power mids. It’s what won 2014. Puts kroos in control and he’s the best cm in the world.
i feel like most people don't realize this
Imagine questioning the greatness of World Cup Muller. 2-0 to France because Euros Muller isn't the same player, Ozil/Kross ran that game but Muller sucked all tournament and the ridiculous handball from Bastian
Can't believe how many people are just dismissing Brazil, Alves injury hurts but they're really fucking good and breezed through qualifying. Would put them in top group of favorites with Germany and Spain
The equation is different with Reus and Werner now anyways. I think Khedira starts against Mexico with Kroos, but Low tries to accommodate Muller, Reus, Ozil and Werner and see what happens. One might get sacrificed later in the tournament to move Kroos forward, certainly possible.
They’re gonna be so good. Alves injury is tough but I think they’ll be fine.
Should we rank the favorites?
strongly disagree with france over Brazil. Brazil have developed an identity, good coaching, and Neymar/Jesus can be breathtaking.
Also have a better midfield than France and France hasn't even decided who their front 3 will be. Mbappe, Griezmann, Dembele is insane speed and skill but haven't played together much and Giroud Is still the guy producing the most. Kante is the best DM in the EPL but not on the national team level, Pogba is inconsistent, and is Tollisso or Matuidi the other starter. They're so talented but need a David Silva/good Ozil type/any distributor. Their sum doesn't equal their parts for me.
Brazil is probably in the best form going in, Germany is in shit form but been resting a lot of guys recently and trying new things.
follow a guy that's pretty hardcore Brazil(he's English but married to a Brazilian) that says the backups to Alves are complete shit.
I'm not convinced in the backline of Brazil. They'll get caught out against better sides. Feel the same about Argentina.
I might be overrating France, they have a ton of pieces and it might take Zidane for them to put it all together. They should be the best counter attacking team in the tournament.
Yea If France can sort out their formation/identity then they are Top 3. But its a huge unknown, whereas you dont have that with Brazil.
i would agree with this. only reason i'd have spain over france is their experience
Can also question Costa's effectiveness for Spain and being reliant on some older players. Germany is aging but most of them are still late 20s vs Iniesta/Silva/Ramos/Pique
Not sure who but could see a surprise team winning it.
I’d like to see France play espain, is that a possible knockout matchup before the final?
Yeah, I think it's a little too soon for France. They'll be prime for Euro 20 and WC 22 though
One or the other would have to finish runner-up in their group, and both would have to make the semis