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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Gin Buckets, Jun 12, 2015.
streams on Flo tomorrow night. I believe 5 pm central. Not sure on time though.
J'Den destroyed Zillmer as expected. Missed round 1 but sounds like it was pretty easy for Gwiz
Think Coon is wrestling too much, Gwiz is awesome but Coon wasn't himself at all
Splitting it up led to 3 shitty events; the lack of tight battles and extra weight classes could have also led to this. Nothing remotely close to J'Den/Taylor
I don't like Final X.
Last year's trials were incredible.
This year I feel like I have to dedicate three saturdays to watching WTT Finals, which doesn't count the other weekend for the WTT Challenger tournament.
That's a month worth of Saturdays dedicated to watching trials and Ms. GGCD is not pleased.
Also, staying in on a Saturday to watch 2 matches when you don't care much about 3-4 matches kinda sucks.
Nolf added another ring Saturday afternoon, probably the most important one of his life.
wrestlers all seem to wanna get married at first available chance
Hey, Cadet World Championships and no one gives a shit because Track is charging $30 for an ad-riddled stream:
Richie Figueroa 3-0
def China Fall :54
def Russia TF 10-0
def Ukraine 10-4
Wrestles returning World Champ at 45kg Ali Hassan Amirli of Azerbaijan for world gold!
Robbie Howard 1-1
def Belarus TF 14-3
lose Italy 9-3
eliminated when Italy lost in semis
Carson Manville 1-1
def Lithuania TF 13-2
lose Japan 11-0
eliminated when Japan lost in quarters
Abe Assad 1-1
def Turkey 2-1
lose Iran 10-0
Pulled back into repechage when Iran made finals
Needs to beat Mongolia, Germany, and then Azerbaijan for bronze
DG Kirkvliet 4-0
def Czech Republic TF 10-0
def Ukraine TF 10-0
def India TF 10-0
def Russia criteria 2-2
wrestles Amir Hosse Zare of Iran to repeat as world champ!
Gets Russia first round
If he wins he gets Japan/Georgia winner
Then likely Armenia
On the bottom half Iran should make it through to the finals (Lamer aint medalling)
Gets solid 3rd year cadet from Greece in round 1 (winnable match for sure)
Then winner of Mongolia/Bulgaria (probably Mongolia, also very winnable match)
Then he gets winner of Russia/Iran and AZE in semis. Probably Russia.
Gets Austria rd 1, should be a win
Gets Ravinder of India rd 2, he is very good, Asian Champ 2018.
If he wins he will beat the winner of GRE/ALB
then a tougher matchup in semis
rd 1 bye
Poland in rd 2 (should win)
ARM/UKR winner in rd 3 (should win)
Then probably RUS in semis
Iran/Georgia QF match on top half likely decides other finalist
Mongolia rd 1
Iran rd 2
The Iranian is really good, run likely ends there
What the fuckkkk #Ohio State Buckeyes
Shocking that known piece of shit terrible human Jim Jordan would do something terrible.
Very interesting timing with the story, too, as Jordan is looking to make a Speaker bid.
The DiSabato family has their highs and lows. I worked with Dom at Coffman, great guy. Adam is pure idiot. I don’t know Mike at all.
I don't know anything about any of these people except Jordan is FrankReynolds's fav politician.
both Figueroa and Kirkvliet lost their gold medal matches
Abe Assad wrestled back for bronze
Lamer lost in semis to a great Armenian, wrestles for bronze
Ramos wrestles Japan for gold
Saunders lost to Asian Champ from India and was eliminated when India lost
Facundo lost in semis to India, will probably get Russia for bronze
AJ Ferrari lost to a tough Iranian, needs to beat KAZ, IND, then GER for bronze. Think he's got an ok shot.
Dunyasha Yetts, who wrestled at Ohio State in 1993 and 1994, said he and others told Jordan about Strauss.
“I remember I had a thumb injury and went into Strauss’ office and he started pulling down my wrestling shorts,” he said. “I’m like, what the f--- are you doing? And I went out and told Russ and Jim what happened. I was not having it. They went in and talked to Strauss.”
A former teammate of DiSabato’s who asked not to be identified said he never told Jordan directly that Strauss had abused him. But there is no way Jordan could have avoided the rumors “because it was all over the locker room.”
“I love Jimmy to death,” the ex-wrestler said. “It was a head-scratcher to me why he would say he didn’t know anything. Doc used to take showers with the team even though he didn’t do any workouts, and everybody used to snicker about how you go into his office for a sore shoulder and he tells you to take your pants down.”
When the first stories about the university investigation appeared this spring, Jordan told The Columbus Dispatch, “I had not heard about any type of abuse at all.” He also said that “no one reported any type of abuse” to him.
He does seem like a pretty big prick; our Jordans seem like good people though the way they wrestle greatly annoys me.
Gross and sad.
A kid from my high school, Philip Moomey, is wrestling in the World Cadet Grecos tomorrow and really got the benefit of the draw apparently...
oh my goodness
- Jim Jordan to victims, probably
Other coaches that hid a sexual predator come to Jim Jordan's defense. How shocking
There are a group of people bragging about bringing down Jim Jordan.
I'm not saying abuse didn't happen, because it kind of sounds like it did and it was considered a joke more than a serious matter--they just didn't care at the time. It was like, "Dude, you got a knee sprain? Strauss is gonna have to get a look at that dick lol". I haven't heard of anyone saying Strauss grabbed dicks or violated anyone. He was just a perv who liked to see dicks.
Now that Jim Jordan is in a position of power the scumbags are trying to use it to bury him, when no one had ever reported actual abuse, just joked about the fact that he loved dongs and made fun of him for it.
Like come on, Mike DiSabato, Mark Coleman, Dunyasha Yetts? Are these the upstanding moral compasses that we are basing this on?
I don't care for Jim Jordan but if he goes down for this it's complete bullshit. Mike freaking DiSabato. He's bragging to everyone about bringing Jordan down. What a joke.
This is not a good look.
PSU fans want this to be Sandusky all over again so badly.
It is not.
It isn't the same. However, your POV is a very bad look. Maybe see how it plays out before making such bold claims about this not being real.
However, you defended Jared Fogle, too. Sooo.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wasn’t expecting to have to wait 2.5 hours for a Jared Fogle drop. I’m disappointed
This isn’t the same thing as Fogle. GGCD is legit connected to wrestling people. I highly doubt his views are solely his own opinion.
The thing about Jared Fogle is that he is not only a good person but my best friend and confidant.
Is this really terrible?
A group of college wrestlers (not minors) joke about a pervert team doc that always checks out their junk whenever they go in for an injury.
No one reports abuse. It's just a joke that everyone on the team is aware of.
Twenty five years pass. A mentally unstable, alcoholic former wrestler that is embroiled in several unrelated disputes with both the university as well as Jim Jordan and his family literally cries rape as Jordan is making a bid for Speaker of the House. He brags about it in videos in which he appears to be intoxicated, sends emails to dozens of individuals in the wrestling community bragging about bringing down Jim Jordan, sends Jordan himself odd emails at 4 AM in the morning.
Like I said, this is not a PSU scandal. Creepy doctor? Absolutely. No one has reported abuse yet. No one was raped. No one was groped.
The only three people who have come forward are Mike DiSabato, Mark Coleman, and Dunyasha Yets.
DiSabato is publicly acknowledged as a disgrace to the wrestling community. Failed business dealings, lawsuits, and harassment allegations follow him where ever he goes. He most recently was accused of harassing the widow of a marine that was KIA in Iraq over his memorial fund. He's been sued for defamation and libel.
Dunyasha Yets has served multiple prison sentences after defrauding investors out of $1.8 million in a pyramid scheme. He took $1.3 million from Antoine Winfield alone. Used it on his personal debts and country club membership. Also sued his former employer for sexual harassment and discrimination, a claim they denied vehemently.
Mark Coleman is a known drug user and was arrested for growing 371 marijuana plants. And to be quite frank he does not seem like a mentally stable individual.
Eighth Former OSU Wrestler Says Jim Jordan Knew About Sexual Abuse
By Eric Levitz@EricLevitz
Jim Jordan. Photo: Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images
An eighth former OSU wrestler now says that congressman Jim Jordan knew that a team doctor was sexually preying on students during his tenure as assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University.
In recent weeks, several other former OSU wrestlers — including the Ultimate Fighting Championship star Mark Coleman — have publicly claimed that Jordan was aware of allegations that OSU medical doctor Richard Strauss had fondled the genitalia of wrestling team members. The powerful House Republican responded last week by deriding the men he had once coached as liars, and possible agents of a “deep state” conspiracy against true conservatives throughout the elected government.
Those remarks apparently inspired another former OSU wrestler to tell CNN Tuesday, “Jordan is denying this because obviously it would be political suicide for him. He’s still denying it. Jim Jordan knew. He didn’t do anything about it.”
The ex-wrestler, who chose to make his allegation anonymously, said that he had personally told Jordan, “Strauss held my balls longer than normal,” and that Jordan “just snickered.” He further recalled telling Jordan “something to the effect of ‘his hands are cold as s**t; he checked out every hair on my ball,’” and the assistant coach replying, “I have nothing to do with this,” and then walking away.
Strauss killed himself in 2005. OSU recently launched an investigation into the allegations that have been made against him.
Several former OSU coaches released a joint statement defending Jordan on Monday. “We all worked on the wrestling coaching staff during Jim’s tenure at The Ohio State University. None of us saw or heard of abuse of OSU wrestlers,” the statement read. “The well-being of student-athletes was all of our concern. If we had heard of any abuse, we would have spoken up.”
President Trump said of the alleged sexual-abuse victims last week, “I don’t believe them at all,” adding, “No question in my mind. I believe Jim Jordan 100 percent.”
"If they didn't report any misconduct then, it didn't happen" - GGCD, probably
Stevis_In_C-Bus, please control your posters. Yikes.
You're missing the point. No one reported abuse.
It very may have happened. There is an ongoing investigation.
The point is that no one told Jim Jordan about sexual abuse.
And it just so happens that the three individuals that have come forward all have extremely sketchy backgrounds and are of questionable repute to say the least.
It is really great that you PSU fans are so sincerely invested of the well-being of OSU wrestlers in the late-to-mid 90s while you defended Joe Paterno as he turned a blind eye to his assistant ass fucking children in the showers.
A psychiatrist would have a field day on the rationalization in this thread despite overwhelming evidence.
As a Penn State fan, I can spot it a mile away. Denial is always the first step
It’s pretty suspicious that the claims are all against Jim Jordan knowing and not the multitude of other assistant coaches, head coaches, trainers, administrators, etc. I don’t have the sources GGCD has, but I can see plenty f reason for skepticism, especially in this political climate.
That said, if the OSU investigation pulls Jordan in for some currently unknown reason, I would put much more credence in that action/statement.
definitely political but fuck if I'm gonna defend Jim Jordan. If this were an opponent of his, there's no chance they'd get any due process from him.
I get that, I’m a democrat so politically it would be ideal for Jordan to be run out of office. Even still, as a wrestling fan this is a black cloud over such a golden age of wrestling. This is not the way we want the sport to be in the media. Like I said, if the investigation proves Jordan did something wrong then throw the book at him and shame on him for having all these wrestling people go to bat for him in good faith only to bring them down with him.
Again, fuck Jim Jordan.
But it's bullshit if he goes down for this. This is Mike DiSabato, scumbag pos, trying to bring him down.
You seem to be changing your tune? Hear something different?
Ugh, I assume it’s this tape. Hellickson stating he knew and talked to Strauss about his hour long showers with the guys. Hopefully Hellickson, Jordan, or someone told admin about this conversation. I find it unlikely they didn’t report it up the chain, though.
Facebook had a video of Ed & Edmond working out in Fresno but it got deleted.
like i said, this is the trash we are dealing with here:
Dave Schultz is wrestling royalty and an American hero. Fuck I hate this guy more and more every day.