Wrestling and college wrestling thread

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  1. Gunners

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  2. FrankReynolds

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    lol its a dick injury?
     
  3. yesman

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    Ohio State guys - how long have you had southern scuffle on your schedule? For some reason I didn't think you'd be there.
     
  4. GGCD

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    We haven't sent guys to the scuffle since 2006 (J Jaggers, Lance Palmer lost to Schlatter, JD Bergman lost to Max Askren in finals--recently talked about that match on his podcast with Ben Askren).

    Could be a Tom Ryan thing since that's when he took over.

    I wouldn't expect them to send a full lineup, mostly guys who need matches. So I'd expect Keshawn Hayes for sure, whoever they've got at 125 (Brakan Mead?), and not much more than that.
     
  5. GGCD

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    Some big time blue chip 2018 recruits announcing soon with the signing period approaching

    Aaron Brooks: Dad is a big Penn State guy, going to Colorado Springs for a year so not sure if he's picking now
    David Carr: OSU/ISU battle, I think it's OSU personally.
    Mason Parris: Lots of Michigan buzz, VT probably running second. One final Coon/Walz battle.
    Sammy Sasso: OSU/VT battle, lots of OSU buzz but he's really close to Molinaro
    Brayton Lee: Apparently picking today, I think it's Nebraska, but he hasn't released a top 2 or 3 or anything. Minnesota, OK State, VT, ISU in it.
    Trent Hidlay: Gotta be Iowa/NC State

    If OSU can land Carr and Sasso, it won't best Penn State's class, but....

    David Carr
    Sammy Sasso
    Gavin Hoffman
    Jaden Mattox
    Malik Heinselman
    Rocky Jordan

    Holy crap that's a lot of talent. Not to mention Nate Keaton is a ranked guy as well but will likely be a backup at OSU at 141.
    They're also recruiting top 25 guy Ryan Karoly who just decommitted from Northwestern, he's visiting soon.
    The gap between PSU/OSU and the rest of the college wrestling world could be getting bigger.
     
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    Jiu Jitsu practice yesterday, fought tapping to a choke, got cauliflower ear.

    Girls were not yet lined up on my front lawn when I left for work this morning, but it's eminent. Ask me anything.
     
  8. GGCD

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    PROWL finally divulged their business plan, and it's dangerous and terrible for USA Wrestling.

    Basically it seeks to renovate current USA World Team Trials to a new "league" format consisting of four competitors at each weight class--1) The returning world team member 2) US Open Winner 3) Last Chance Qualifier Winner 4) NCAA Champion.

    As I understand it, it would consist of 7 weekly shows, with the first six shows alternating 5 weight classes every week. So, for example, 57, 65, 74, 86, 125 would go one week, then 61, 70, 79, 92, 97 the next.

    Each wrestler would wrestle the other qualifiers in his weight round robin style.

    The top 2 from each weight class would wrestle in a BO3 match week 7.

    This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard but it might actually happen because they'd be writing a fat check for the rights.
     
  9. Dudley Dawson2

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    That sounds horrendous.
     
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  10. GGCD

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    Why won't you wear head/ear gear?
     
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  11. GGCD

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    So much wrong with it.

    1. Limiting the trials fields to just 4, especially with one spot going to a possibly underqualified NCAA champ, seems like a bad idea if USA wants to find the best guy. Darian Cruz would have been in the trials over Thomas Gilman this year. How about Frank Molinaro? Never would have made the Olympic team, qualified the spot, or taken 5th in Rio.

    2. Weight classes between NCAA and international FS don't correlate with each other! What happens when Dean Heil and Zain Retherford both want to go 65kg? There are four weights over 185 in freestyle, only two in NCAA wrestling. How does that work? Who gets the bid at 125kg when Snyder wins NCAA HWT and elects to go 97kg instead of 125kg?

    3. No returning medalists sitting out anymore. Do we really have to see Jordan Burroughs risk injury against Vincenzo Joseph to move on at trials? Is that really necessary?

    4. Opens the door to gaming the system. Gonna see a lot of dudes faking injuries and earning exemptions.

    5. What do you do when three guys at the weight are 2-1 and the other is 0-3?

    6. What happens in situations where the NCAA champ is the returning world team member (Snyder, Cox, Retherford, etc)? How do you chose who gets one of his spots?

    7. How do you handle weightclass changes? Half the Russian team moved up in weight this year, we're going to see similar movement in 2018 with a bunch of Americans due to the new rules--does Logan Stieber have to win the Open/Last chance if he wants to qualify for WTT at 65kg?

    8. The proposed format doesn't come close to simulating actual World Championships conditions. UWW is moving to a new 2 day wrestling format with same day weigh ins. Lots of guys are going to be moving up in weight because you can't just do a hard cut the day before then spend 24 hours replenishing--you have to make the weight the same morning you wrestle, and you have to do it two days in a row. PROWL's format not only doesn't simulate that, but it forces wrestlers to make weight on FOUR separate occasions over the course of 7 weeks! I'm sure the guys with the tough cuts are going to LOVE the idea of interrupting their training cycles with four dangerous cuts.

    9. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We just won a world fucking title. They were handing out medals like Oprah handing out cars. PROWL obviously wanted to start some kind of Pro Wrestling League, which is great, but when they realized wrestlers would only care if the stakes were as high as World Team Membership, they decided it would be easier to acquire an already existing property (WTT), brand it, and distribute it. Make no mistake, this isn't just to grow the sport of wrestling, it's to line their coffers. I feel bad because it's headed by Xander Shultz and his family has done so much American wrestling and literally given all there is to give to the sport, but this is a bad idea. Try to make a league work, if you can't, back out and let someone with deeper pockets take over.
     
  12. GGCD

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    Brayton Lee ended up changing his mind and did not commit today, he's not ready yet.

    Think Sasso will be really soon, maybe in the next few days. The amount of VT buzz right now is concerning for tOSU especially considering the fact that he was around so many wrestling people at WNO all week. Think it's VT for that reason.
     
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  13. GGCD

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    They got a nice consolation prize at 125
     
  14. RockHardJawn39

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    That was last year. Quit living in the past.
     
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  15. Dudley Dawson2

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    Not bad for practically zilch $$$.
     
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  16. GGCD

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    Cornell gonna have a real nice team with Yianni, Arujau, Ramirez, Merola, etc.

    Could be a threat if Darmstadt and Dean develop into AAs.
     
  17. GGCD

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  18. GGCD

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    JoJo Smith Redshirting at 157 for Okie State.

    If you think they have a lineup crunch this year...they only graduate Dean Heil.

    Next year its gonna be nuts at the middleweights, total logjam from 49-74. There are gonna be 4 guys that are top 20 type guys battling for 149 alone.

    125: Fix
    133: Picc
    141: Brock
    149: Geo Martinez/Boo Lewallen/Tristan Moran/Kaden Gfeller
    157: Jonce Blaylock
    165: JoJo Smith
    174: Chandler Rogers/Jacobe Smith
    184: Marsden
    197: Weigel/White
    285: Anderson/White

    Could be that 6 guys in their lineup bump up in weight next year.
     
  19. GGCD

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    Dont know this guy but 3x state champ, nice depth for 174




    Hearing Sasso will commit literally any day now. LOTS of virginia tech buzz on this one is a bad sign. Felt like OSU had him for a long time.
     
  20. Blackterno

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    Jojo trying to get away from Nolf for a year. Good idea if he wants a chance at a title.
     
  21. GGCD

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    I think it was more due to the glut in middleweights.

    I have heard that he outgrew 157, and Chandler Rogers is at 165. JoJo has a RS, why not use it?
     
  22. yesman

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    sounds like some weird stuff going on with Weigel at oksu?
     
  23. GGCD

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    Who wrestles 197 for them? I think White bumps up to Heavy and wrestles there over Ethan Anderson.

    Does Marsden go up to 197, with Keegan Moore taking over at 184?

    Seems like OKST could throw out a million different lineups and still finish top 5.
     
  24. GGCD

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    David Carr committing at 12:30 CT tomorrow on Flo :ohnoes::ohnoes::ohnoes:

    Sasso this week as well.
     
  25. GGCD

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    Reading on multiple sites that Tomasello has a torn ACL.

    Congrats on the title PSU
     
  26. Dudley Dawson2

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    Ugh. That sucks. I needed him to at least take down Suriano.

    Hope that's not the case but he has a bright freestyle career in front of him.
     
  27. GGCD

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    The plan as of now is for him to wrestle with it a la Spencer Lee, but we saw how that worked out for him.
     
  28. Blackterno

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    That sucks on NaTo. Hate to see that to a stud like that. I actually thought about him yesterday while working out. I did 2 minutes of a plank and was pretty pleased with myself. Then I thought how he did 21 minutes and came to the conclusion that I am a huge pussy.
     
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    Most of us have known you're a huge pussy for years
     
  30. GGCD

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    David Carr commits to Iowa State over tOSU.
     
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  32. GGCD

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    Yes and no. For a long time OSU was considered a big favorite. They even offered his best friend a walk-on spot. But at some point this year that changed.

    Most OSU fans still thought it was OSU even this week, but yesterday and today there was too much ISU smoke. Hard to blame him for going to a school where his dad is a living legend, especially with the tremendous coaching staff they've put together in Ames.

    Unfortunately I think Sasso is committing to VT in the next couple days.
     
  33. Gunners

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    Great news today!
     
  34. GGCD

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    Geduev is back! Would NOT mind seeing Dake-Geduev in 2018.
     
  35. GGCD

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    Ohio State doing BO3 wrestleoffs at two weightclasses tonight:

    125: Brady Koontz vs Brakan Mead
    141: Joey McKenna vs KeShawn Hayes (winner wrestles 141, loser goes up to 149)

    Match 1:
    Brakan Mead WBF
    Joey McKenna 3-2 TB-1

    Ke-Shawn has a much bigger frame than McKenna, way more room to grow into 149.
     
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  36. Gunners

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    Was that the 1st match that McKenna just won?
     
  37. GGCD

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    Yep. It was very close.
     
  38. Gunners

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    Saw the last 2 rounds plus OT. Not encouraged by Hayes’ escape attempts
     
  39. GGCD

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    It's become OSU tradition for our guys to not be able to get up from bottom.

    I'd like to think McKenna's top game is that strong personally.
     
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  40. GGCD

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    I see you watching the 141 wrestleoff, Bryce Meredith.
     
  41. Dudley Dawson2

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    Sounds like outstanding wrestling. Congrats on the championship bucks.
     
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  42. GGCD

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    Rewatched the McKenna-Hayes match because I also missed the first period (the match started like 15 minutes earlier than planned).

    Hayes got a TD a minute into the match, rode McKenna for a minute and a half, McKenna escapes with 30 seconds left. 2-1 Hayes going into second.
    Hayes chooses down, McKenna rides Hayes for the full period.
    McKenna chooses down still trailing 2-1. Hayes rides him for over 90 seconds, but McKenna escapes to make it 2-2 and send it to OT and TB where Hayes once again could not escape. McKenna did not have the same problem and won 3-2.


    Hayes had 51 seconds of RT in regulation, got the only TD of the match, and still lost.
     
  43. Gunners

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    Now McKenna is injured
     
  44. GGCD

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    Annnnd McKenna gets hurt in the 2nd BO3 match and defaults out.

    Congrats on your 3rd NCAA title of 2018 PSU.
     
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    Jesus Christ Ryan what are doing to my team!!!
     
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    That really sucks for McKenna, hope it's not too serious.
     
  47. RockHardJawn39

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    I said this sarcastically
     
  48. Blackterno

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    I guess Hayes pulled out all the stops in order to not have to face Zain.
     
  49. GGCD

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    Just a huge pickup. Really needed him.

     
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