AEW / WWE thread - real fighting over fake fighting

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  1. UncleJesse

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    Doesn't he have a thyroid issue or something that is causing all the weight gain? He just needs some pants and he will be fine.
     
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  2. fsugrad99

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    She was supposed to compete in the MYC last year, but tore her ACL shortly before. So, that's nine months of recovery.

    She comes back this year and many thought she was going to win it. They were really pushing the redemption story, and she's really great. She has the likability of Bayley and is a worker analogous to, say, Sasha.

    On the first move of her quarterfinal match, her good knee explodes on a dive to the outside. Didn't look bad, but she tore her ACL, MCL, meniscus and cracked her tibia. Pretty gnarly stuff.

    She tries to work the match on one leg, but it's just tough to watch. She eventually just can't go on.

    Full Sail is dead silent and the poor girl is bawling her eyes out. It's all very :tebow:
     
  3. Illinihockey

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    Geez thats awful.
     
  4. Bankz

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    If you get a chance to watch the WWE.Com exclusive videos about the MYC do it. There emotional and pretty awesome
     
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  5. Bankz

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    As WWE is about to have another reload of women’s division competitors I’m wondering if we aren’t far off from a weekly all women show.

    RAW and Smackdown don’t have time to fill in more women story’s for what’s on the main roster as is.

    Doing a WWE Evolution weekly show with its own titles and story’s would be cool
     
  6. Bankz

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    Fuck NJPW... they are cracking down on Gifs being posted online.

    Probably the end of me following that product till they wise up.
     
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  7. Prospector

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    Same creative team?
     
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  8. Bankz

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    I would give it to HHH and let him out together a team.

    I would keep Vince the fuck away
     
  9. UncleJesse

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    WE NEED CHOCOLATE TITTIES!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. Mr Bulldops

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    In “news” that will not be a surprise to anyone:

     
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  11. Nostradumass

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    Reportedly, Fox wants Smackdown to be "more sports, less entertainment"

    Which sounds a lot like NXT to me. Maybe Vince will finally hand the ball to Triple H, at least for half the product.
     
  12. Illinihockey

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    https://www.sescoops.com/chris-jericho-jim-ross-barry-bloom-wrestling-promotion/

    The groundwork is being laid for a new wrestling promotion. It involves some of the top players in the industry and financial backing from a billionaire family already involved in professional sports.

    Jim Ross and Chris Jericho have been working with renowned agent Barry Bloom in putting the pieces together. JR’s contract with WWE expires shortly and he has declined an offer to renew. He has been sending out feelers to select WWE performers, while Jericho has been handling the New Japan side. Bloom was recently in Japan taking meetings related to this deal.

    The project is being financed by the Khan family. Shahid Khan, the patriarch, is one of the wealthiest men on the world (and a colorful personality). He owns the NFL’s Jacksonville Jaguars and Fulham F.C. of the English Premier League. Shahid’s son, Tony, is a big wrestling fan and has been hands-on with getting this off the ground. He follows a few wrestlers on Twitter, including Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks and Marty Scurll.

    Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks are on board, as are Hangman Page and a few others. Kenny Omega’s status is unclear. For what it’s worth, Bill Goldberg is a client of Barry Bloom, along with JR and Jericho. When The Elite has talked about sticking together next year, this is what they’ve been alluding to. Jim Ross has been coy about this on his podcast, vaguely teasing something big on the horizon without showing his cards.

    With the A-level talent they are getting commitments from, the group will burn through a ton of cash quickly. They are moving forward with the understanding that significant losses are expected for the first couple years.

    Talks are underway with AXS to secure a TV deal. AXS TV executive Adam Swift is fast-tracking this. AXS currently airs New Japan Pro Wrestling and recently announced Jeanie Buss’ Women of Wrestling premieres in January. Sinclair Broadcasting, which provided logistical support for All In and has been acting in good faith, has been in the dark about this story.

    The timeline for this going live is 12-16 months from now (late 2019 / early 2020)
     
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  13. Nostradumass

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    Man I can crank out 2000 words in half an hour as to why this will fail and why no start-up or even existing wrestling company will put a dent in WWE's marketplace without WWE first imploding. A wealthy businessman would have a lot more success (even without actually coming close to "competing" with WWE) if they put money into an already existing company like TNA to help them with production value, talent acquisition and TV distribution. Even then you're looking at a late-WCW situation where a not-profitable company bleeds money hoping for an eventual (but likely never materializing) day when enough non-WWE fans buy-in. Running a business model on hopes and dreams is never a good look. Case in point: MoviePass.

    WWE has too many structural advantages, both in terms of distribution deals and raw capital to be competed against on anything close to equal footing. WCW had Turner money and the whole framework of the NWA to build onto. Once the former ran out and the latter ran off, the company cratered.

    The amount of cash you need to run a profitable pro wrestling company that actually makes enough money to be a worthwhile venture for big money backers is...well I should just stop because it's a paradox. You'll never have enough cash to do it because it'll always take more cash than you have.

    Nothing will bring down WWE except for WWE.

    Not even Vince McMahon could start a wrestling company from scratch right now and succeed, setting aside the fact that he's old and out of touch and doesn't actually like "wrestling" anyway. If Vince retired today, handed the company to Triple H, took a billion dollars and started his own wrestling company, even THAT would not be able to compete with WWE.

    WWE simply has too many structural advantages that are already baked in, through years of being around, through celebrity endorsements, through brand recognition, and most important of all: WWF/E has been in the middle of two lightning in a bottle fads, the 80's wrestling boom and the late-90's Monday Night Wars. They started the former and won the latter. You can't create a fad (at least not purposefully; you always just sort of stumble into them and ride the wave). Duplicating one is even more impossible, especially if you're starting from scratch.

    (that's the cliff's notes)
     
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  14. Hank Scorpio

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    I think it's moreso to create an alternative for people in the business to go make money, but no one will be successful trying to follow the WWE model (see TNA). Lucha Underground, Ring of Honor, and TNA are the "big 3" US alternatives to WWE, but they don't move the needle at all.
     
  15. Nostradumass

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    Yeah, Lucha Underground is the first one trying to do something different but there's not enough money or interest for it to be a viable alternative from a business standpoint. The others like ROH and TNA just try to copy the formula with only minor tweaks and they're basically invisible in terms of public awareness. WWE is a niche product, you don't need two MoviePass companies until the first one goes belly-up. How many subscribers did AMC's service have while MoviePass was riding high a couple years ago or whatever? Not many. How many do they have now? A lot more. People only need one niche at a time. Wrestling is a niche, WWE is wrestling in the eyes of 99% of consumers. If WWE goes belly-up then people will move on to an alternative. Until then TNA and ROH and anyone else are just invisible.

    It's like trying to start up another professional football league. Are there things wrong with the NFL? Obviously, but those frustrated fans aren't going to switch to a UFL or a AAFL or a USFL or an XFL because of a half-century of brand loyalty; it's insidious like that.

    WWE is the NFL, which makes the XFL's eventual second-failure even more hilarious.


    I guess my point is, WWE's standing is so secure and, more importantly, so all-encompassing, that every start-up that even thinks about working under them or alongside them is doomed to fail because it'll be a money loser. A small company like ROH can work because they have no aspirations to be anything more than a mid-major company that brings in just enough profit to stay alive. It's not the kind of business model (or financial results) that a big money backer wants, which is why he'll eventually get bored and pull his money, ending the company.
     
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  16. Illinihockey

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    So who's it going to be that attacked Black? Wish it'd be a surprise debut
     
  17. Bankz

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    I mean he's essentially just speculating and calling it news.
     
  18. Bankz

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    Its basically NXT lite at this point... just let road dog do his thing and keep vince the fuck away
     
  19. Bankz

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    I'm not sure but i'm into this storyline big time... I think it has to be someone close to Alister based off his reaction so i'm thinking a babyface who's on the roster currently. Gargano?
     
  20. Tiffin

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    Apparently Daniel Cormier is going to Orlando to try out for a commentator position
     
  21. Illinihockey

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    Gargano seems so obvious though
     
  22. Tiffin

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    It was Rikishi.
     
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  23. Illinihockey

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    Actually HHH could be fun. Black vs HHH at takeover would really put nxt on the map even more than it is
     
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  24. fsugrad99

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    He did it......to his cock
     
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  25. Bankz

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    It would be counter to what he wants to do with the product. He doesn’t even come out prior to the Take Over cards anymore.
     
  26. Nostradumass

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  27. fsugrad99

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    New OSW should be up today
     
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  28. fsugrad99

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  29. Hank Scorpio

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    Between Charlotte/Becky and Bella/Rousey, it's amazing how 2 women's feuds are the best things going in WWE right now.

     
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  30. zeberdee

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    I haven't really been paying attention, is that going to be a handicap match?
     
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  31. Prospector

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    To me, WWE is mass market driven
    Other feds seem to be poaching a niche demographic. Niche companies can make money, but never as much as the mass market company
     
  32. Bankz

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    My favorite wrestler of all time...
     
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  33. Beeds07

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    Are you talking about a 2 on 1 match or the way Brie wrestles?
     
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  34. Hank Scorpio

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    Hot girls that go all out for cosplay is probably my favorite thing about Instagram.
     
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  35. Shiggityshwo

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    oh god yes
     
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  36. Bankz

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    And with that I now follow her...
     
  37. Illinihockey

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    Some of those spots were insane. Also Sami is the best
     
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  38. Bankz

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    Start Raw with... Roman.

    Time to shut off Raw
     
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  39. Hub-City-Hero

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    Leukemia and dropping the belt?? Didn't see that one coming
     
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  40. shaolin5

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    Holy fucking shit is this real?
     
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  41. Bankz

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    wowza... Roman
     
  42. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Is this for real?
     
  43. Bankz

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    fuck this is awful... feel terrible for the guy
     
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  44. Hank Scorpio

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    Umm... what?
     
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  45. Hank Scorpio

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    Fuck that's terrible
     
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  46. Bankz

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    i'm not crying... someone's slicing onions i swear
     
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  47. Hank Scorpio

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    I've known 3 people that had leukemia. 2 are 6 ft under and the other is currently terminal before the age of 35. Shit has me shook as fuck right now
     
  48. shaolin5

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    I literally had no idea....I mean NO CLUE. Unbelievable.
     
  49. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    Never liked him in the ring or his character, but I hope he makes a full recovery and is able to come back.
     
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