AEW / WWE thread - Real Fighting about Fake Fighting

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  1. Mr Bulldops

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    And it just got worst
     
  2. GrizzliesDrew

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    Run in to beat down the guy who just had big match...that's what your top face just did.
     
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  3. Sub-Zero

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    That dude can fucking dropkick. He should never lose a match ever
     
  4. stratknight

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    It's incredible how often Roman is in the opening or closing segment when he's nowhere near the Universal title.
     
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  5. GrizzliesDrew

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    Seriously though....you just had Roman singlehandedly neuter the tag champs two weeks in a row. Then after a hard fought match by Braun Strowman, you immediately had Roman come down to the ring to kick his ass (which is a TOTAL heel move) and then he got his ass kicked by Strowman.

    They have no fucking idea how to book Reigns.
     
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  6. Nostradumass

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    It all goes back to his own popularity, or lack thereof.

    Replace Reigns with Austin and so much of this terrible booking is overlooked. Austin used to spend everyweek coming out and cheap-shotting everyone in sight. No one cared that it was technically a "heel" move because Austin was genuinely popular. The crowd makes or breaks a guy and it's almost impossible to reverse engineer a superstar.
     
  7. stratknight

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    Heel. You book Reigns heel. It's not hard.
     
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  8. stratknight

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    Well this is something.....

     
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  9. Tiffin

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    Oh Dwayne.
     
  10. Bankz

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    Normally LA crowds are good. This one blew total dick.

    Chanting this is Awesome to Big Show/Braun march before it got started.

    Fuck you LA
     
  11. Bankz

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    KO was fantastic tonight. Wish they would've booked him this was 6 months ago.

    I just want to turn off my TV when Roman come out.

    That Bayley promo was pure shit.
    Sasha is a terrible baby face.
    Charlotte is excellent in her role.
    Nia never talk again. Just make me puke

    There really going with a Mick vs Steph or is it Sasha vs Steph or is it Steph vs Steph fuck her

    Zayn is great. Jesus he sold like a champ for Joe and KO
     
  12. lfriend

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    They are booking about anything they can think of to get Roman Reigns over.

    Cena is about done and they need a new merchandise pusher. Vince still thinks he can force fans to see his performers a certain way.

    "Yeah the fans like Kevin Owens. Just wait and see how much they will like ROMAN REIGNS when we have ROMAN REIGNS beat Owens and Jericho up at the same time!"
     
  13. DetroitNole

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    Not going to lie when I saw big show in main event and that reigns was booked to face the tag champs 2 on 1 again (plus hinting at getting involved in main event) I stopped watching tonight.
     
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  14. Illinihockey

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    The answer is so fucking simple, its Sami Zayn. He has so much natural charisma and the crowd already loves him, he connects with fans both young and old, and he's one of the best workers on the planet. He's such a natural successor to Daniel Bryan.
     
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  15. Shiggityshwo

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    Sami isn't ripped though no way people actually like him
     
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  16. Shiggityshwo

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    seriously though, a compelling babyface promo is so rare nowadays, and Sami killed his again last night
     
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  17. dome foam

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    so there is no doubt that Jericho is costing ko, right?
     
  18. Tiffin

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    I have my doubts.

    Lesnar could interfere, would make more sense.

    Jericho could interfere on BEHALF of KO, because he did say "no matter what" that he'd make sure KO walked out of Fastlane as Champ.
     
  19. dome foam

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    would be a nice swerve. esp considering Goldberg and Jericho's history.

    but that leaves an open feud with Goldberg and Jericho.

    lesnar interfering makes the most sense, by far. I'm praying that happens.
     
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  20. Tiffin

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    True. But to avoid the open feud, you could have Jericho smash KO in the face with his belt. Goldberg wins by DQ but KO retains. I guess that'd still possibly be an open feud, but less so than if he smashes Bill in the face and helps KO get the pin.
     
  21. dome foam

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    I'll put the results in order of likelihood to occur:

    - Jericho interferes and gets goldberg the belt.
    - Goldberg wins clean. lesnar beats the shit out of him post-match.
    - lesnar interferes against Goldberg, KO keeps the belt.

    I think these are the only options.
     
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  22. thegenerel

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    I am a few months ahead of you in Early October when the father of the Uso is revealed for his poor driving abilities.

    PS: he is less fat than one of his sons.
     
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  23. b7

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    Why does lesnar interfering causing a DQ make sense? Wouldn't Brock want the belt? And honestly I may be completely forgetting that the Brock Goldberg match isn't set yet if so ignore me.
     
  24. Mr Bulldops

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    Actually they booked him exactly right last night...if you look at it from Vince's POV.

    Vince's POV:
    • Gallows and Anderson are heels and reigns is a top face. The fans will cheer the heels getting there comeuppance when reigns take out both. It will give the fans something to cheer for before the main event
    • Braun is a heel, big show is a legend. Braun beating up on a beloved legend gets him more heat and makes fans hate him more. Fans will boo Braun.
    • Roman, being the top face, comes out to get Braun, because he beat up the fans beloved legend big show. Fans will cheer at the drop of Roman's music
    • Bruan takes out the fan's hero Roman. Braun gets more heat. Fans boo Braun and sympathize with Roman. Fans know that Roman will eventually overcome and when he does they will cheer for him even more.

    That's a pretty cookie cutter booking. The issue is that the fans don't see the players the way Vince does and Vince is either to stubborn or out of touch to notice. The fans don't see Roman as a top face, they don't see big show as a beloved legend, everyone is indifferent to gallows and Anderson after months of being comic relief, and people kind of like Braun destroying everyone.
     
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  25. Mr Bulldops

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    Because after he beats up goldberg, it will be easy to beat up Owens for his belt
     
  26. Illinihockey

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    If you just shuffled the chairs a bit and replaced Big Show with Rock and Roman with Zayn, everything works and everyone goes home happy.
     
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  27. Bankz

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    I didn't mention this last night but also a huge FU to the LA crowd for the "thank you Shamus" chant after he kicked Enzo.

    You repug motherfuckers.
     
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    Enzo and Cas suck. Sorry not sorry.
     
  29. Tiffin

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    I don't think Brock really gives a shit about the belt at all in this story. He's been embarrassed twice by Bill. Bill thinks he's hot shit and deserves a title run. Costing Bill his dream final title run is way more valuable than the winning the title off him later. :twocents:
     
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  30. Bankz

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    i'll fight you right now
     
  31. Bankz

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    Also it seems like The Rock and Austin were both in LA last night.

    If you had me bored to death watching RAW the least you could do it pop in Rock and Austin at the top of our 2 and give them 20 minutes to spew whatever bullshit, stun Bo Dallas and move on
     
  32. Tiffin

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    :doitfaggot:
     
  33. thegenerel

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    Brock wants (and will beat) Goldberg. Getting the belt is a huge bonus and having an "advocate" (advisor) would logically mean playing the long game. Brock should be rooting for Goldberg so he then gets a shot at the belt. This would make sense, but the WWE often ignores that.

    Nia and Chyna - two of the most physically dominant women in the WWE's history and both have high pitched, nasally voices.
     
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  34. thegenerel

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    from Steph challenging Goldberg with "do you think you have one more title run in you?" to Cole pointing out Goldberg's disappointment in not getting the automatic title shot after being eliminated at the RR to him saying the reason Owens has the belt is b/c he has not faced him yet - leads me to believe Goldberg will win at Fastlane.

    the WWE makes a dozen subtle references which make things obvious. How much talk was there of Naomi being a championship caliber superstar before the play by play when she beat Alexa?
     
  35. Bankz

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    I thought Paul and Brock were great last night.

    Nia always smiles at some point. And not a devious smirk like Braun closed RAW with. Its a "im so happy to be on TV" cheese. It ruins her/the moment every week
     
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    AC Slater'ing that chair made me laugh, but that is due to sitting on a backwards chair = AC Slatering
     
  37. Tiffin

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    Oh, don't get me wrong, I think they'll put the belt on Goldberg. Just trying to think of alternatives that won't piss me off as much.
     
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  38. Brocktoon

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    Team wishing the whole KO/Jericho break up was a ruse so Y2J wouldn't be banned from ringside like the last ppv.
     
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  39. thegenerel

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    forgot to mention this.

    Owens looked pretty corporate last night. He was shown talking to HHH last week, made a few odd references last night. He might have been reminded who signs his checks.
     
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  40. Tiffin

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    Think it's clear HHH is putting together his guys with Joe and KO. Just have to wonder who else might join. Charlotte would be an obvious answer.
     
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  41. Bankz

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    A new Evolution
     
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  42. Tiffin

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    rEvolution, imo.

    And I write it like that because WWE would just try to make it the same. Same font and everything.
     
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  43. Sub-Zero

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    The only thing Ill say in their defense is that those two guys toe to toe probably looked a lot cooler in person.

    And then man can Braun move when he's in with a guy his size and can show it off
     
  44. Tiffin

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    Best and most accurate recap of a wrestling show I've ever seen.

    http://www.cagesideseats.com/2017/2/20/14679096/raw-abridged-2-20-2017#oo

    stadiums, fireworks, then/now/whatever



    KO: Imma beat Goldberg because I can wrestle for a long time and he can't

    UNIVERSE: yeah but what about Jericho

    KO leaves



    ENZO & CASS enter

    E&C: SAWWWWWWFT

    C&S: LAAAAAAAAAAME

    E&C win

    ENZO: we won and you suck

    SHEAMUS: an idiot says what

    ENZO: what

    SHEAMUS brogue kicks ENZO in the face

    UNIVERSE: THANK YOU SHEAMUS

    VINCE: dammit



    KO is backstage

    MICK: you're gonna fight Sami

    KO: k but I'm gonna hurt him

    MICK: k

    ROMAN: hey Mick

    CLUB: hey Roman, wanna fight again

    MICK: sure if Roman finds a partner

    ROMAN: nah I got this

    MICK: k



    suddenly purple ropes

    THE BRIAN enters angrily

    TOZAWA enters normally

    THE BRIAN: shake my hand

    TOZAWA: nah

    TOZAWA: well

    TOZAWA: k

    THE BRIAN: too slow

    THE BRIAN chokes TOZAWA out



    ROMAN: I’m pretty strong

    COLE: ONE VERSUS ALLLLLLLLL

    CLUB: time to beat you up so you can overcome things

    ROMAN: oh look a chair, time to overcome things

    ROMAN overcomes things



    NEW DAY: we're gonna host WrestleMania, insert smarky jokes, ice cream machine plans are on an iPad now

    NEW DAY'S iPAD: well I'm doomed

    LANA: I'm Russian so I hacked your iPad and now I have the plans on my iPad

    LANA'S iPAD: well I'm doomed

    NEW DAY'S iPAD: probably

    NEW DAY: give us the plans

    LANA: nah

    XAVIER actually rips LANA's iPad in half

    LANA'S iPAD: welp

    NEW. DAY wins. NEW. DAY wins.



    COLE: George "The Animal" Steele was awesome and nothing about this is funny



    suddenly purple ropes and some tea and biscuits and GALLAGHER

    GALLAGHER: Imma beat Neville

    GALLAGHER signs contract

    NEVILLE enters and signs contract and lea-

    GALLAGHER: have some tea

    NEVILLE: everyone thinks you're silly

    GALLAGHER: don't care, I'm a gentleman

    GALLAGHER and NEVILLE fight because contract signing



    NIA: I'm not like most girls

    JOBBER: k but

    NIA kills JOBBER

    NIA: I want a title shot

    UNIVERSE: k



    BAYLEY: I wanted to win the belt when I was like 6 and now I did, so that's awesome, and I'm not giving up the belt

    STEPH comes out to be a heel

    STEPH: give up the belt because you're a role model and stuff

    BAYLEY: well-

    SASHA: she means nah

    BAYLEY: actually Steph's right I'm giving up the belt JK LOL NO I'M NOT

    suddenly CHARLOTTE

    CHARLOTTE: that's fine, I'll just beat you for it at Fastlane

    SASHA: shut up and fight me

    CHARLOTTE: k

    SASHA and CHARLOTTE fight, suddenly DANA, BAYLEY stops her, SASHA wins



    INTERVIEWER: you're fighting KO for the umpteenth time next Sami

    SAMI: yeah but Samoa Joe though, anyway imma go fight

    suddenly JOE

    UNIVERSE: wow what a surprise

    JOE kills SAMI, SAMI still wants to fight KO because he is an idiot, KO kills SAMI



    STEPH: I'm a heel and I'm pretty mad at you, Mick

    MICK: I'm a face and I'm pretty mad at you, Steph



    COLE is interviewing BORK and HEYMAN

    COLE: so can you beat Goldberg

    HEYMAN: Bork's gonna take your chair

    BORK takes COLE's chair and stares into the camera for three straight minutes

    HEYMAN: Bork's gonna beat Goldberg

    BORK eats COLE, the chair, and your soul



    BRAUN: I'm very big

    BIG SHOW: I am also very big

    a large amount of beef ensues

    BIG SHOW: chokeslam?

    BRAUN: nah

    BIG SHOW: superplex from the top rope?

    BRAUN: nah

    BIG SHOW: then surely my knockout punch will -

    BRAUN: dude, nah, because I have to look strong so Roman can look strong when he beats me, so powerslam

    BRAUN wins

    ROMAN: not even gonna wait for your music, now beat me up so I can look strong when I beat you

    BRAUN: k

    BRAUN kills ROMAN

    COLE: COULD THAT BE THE FATE OF ROMAN AT FASTLANE

    VINCE: nah
     
  45. Bankz

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    That may be the greatest recap ever.... no it is the greatest recap ever.
     
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  46. Bankz

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    Braun looked amazing. Big Show made him look great. The match was likely 3 min to long as both guys was blown up and led to the semi botch finish.
     
  47. Tiffin

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    If you go through that twitter's timeline from last night, you can see the rest of what happened including the "AJ Lee" and "Paige" match. So bizarre.
     
  48. Bankz

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    AJ was dressed like Nikki Bella
     
  49. TTgator91

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    Read Ambrose shooting a movie so could be off tv for a while...I don't know
     
  50. Tiffin

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    WWE apparently "not happy" that The Rock called Punk. :shocker: but he's untouchable, what are they gonna do :laugh:

    Stone Cold was backstage last night and taped a new podcast (sounds like it's for his podcast and not the Network).