Fines not good enough for West Ham Millwall violaters

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  1. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    ESPNsoccernet has learned that both West Ham and Millwall will be charged on Wednesday with a series of hard-hitting offences for the violence and pitch invasions that marred the Hammers' 3-1 defeat of their London rivals last month.

    A West Ham United fan invades the pitch

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    A West Ham United fan invades the pitch during the Carling Cup tie.

    I understand that the FA plan to get tough and the severity of the charges might come as a surprise to those thinking the FA would take the usual line and dish out only fines.

    The charges will be issued on Wednesday, after West Ham's Tuesday night Carling Cup tie at Bolton, and the consequences of any repeat of football violence will make both clubs shudder with the severity of their suspended sentences - anything else will be viewed as the soft option.

    But I believe the FA are in the mood to take a stand against football violence with their World Cup 2018 bid at stake. The wording of their charges will be an indicator to the FA Commission that the FA are seeking tough measures as a deterrent.

    I believe that West Ham will face the threat of being forced to play a game behind closed doors as punishment for rioting and specifically for the pitch invasions. Although West Ham and Millwall will be charged, the home side face heavier punishment.

    But both clubs also face suspended sentences that could mean being banned from the Carling Cup should any such scenes be repeated. There will also be heavy fines for both clubs.

    The FA have studied footage from 47 cameras inside Upton Park and have now concluded their investigations and are preparing to announce the range of charges. The two clubs will not contest the charges but will ask for mitigating circumstances to be taken into account.

    Fights broke out 90 minutes before kick-off and raged for five hours on the streets surrounding Upton Park; while West Ham fans invaded the pitch three times during the game. After the match hundreds of hooligans bombarded police with bottles and crates and one man was stabbed, with dozens more injured.

    Both West Ham and Millwall have cooperated with the FA's investigations, and the Hammers published photographs of perceived culprits in their matchday programme for the game against Liverpool in an attempt to aid the identification process.

    Some of the 200 riot police outside the stadium had to be re-deployed as it became clear the stewards could not cope with the invasions.

    West Ham will have to give guarantees about future stewarding. And the FA are also keen to help the police identify ringleaders of the violence in the surrounding areas. As well as facing police charges, any culprits will face a banning order from every football stadium in the country.

    There were also allegations of racism from West Ham's Carlton Cole and Millwall's Jason Price, who claimed they had been targeted for abuse by supporters.

    ultras :bow: to these hooligans
     
  2. JHarris

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    already posted in the monday news :nahnah:
     
  3. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    FFFFUUUUUUU

    Using this to take a shot at your ultras
     
  4. JHarris

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    ultras outnumber hooligans by 467569567597869564564567 x 67896789678967896896
     
  5. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    hooligans would still win 9845794y5792836581924638597463851632-9465 of the time
     
  6. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    I just noticed it was you that beat to the punch on this one. :heythere:
     
  7. JHarris

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    chea

    and hooligans would get raped ertime by the ultras
     
  8. Andy Reocho

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    both groups of fans are ridiculous
     
  9. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    <------RAPEZY >>>>>> ultra rape
     
  10. soulfly

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    LOL no.

    Quite often it's the case that violent "ultras" don't consider themselves ultras . In Barcelona, ultra = you're a fag.
     
  11. Rabdoid

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    wish college football had firms like those.
     
  12. JHarris

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    all our ultras consider themselves ultras. we have a couple groups big groups that aren't violent(Brianza Alcoolica, Gruppo Brusco, Perversi), but we also have groups that are very violent(Viking, Irriducibili, Boys San, Inter Ultras). those 4 are 4 of the biggest ultra groups. In Barca ultras may be fags, but in Italy aren't viewed like that. They are responsible for about 90% of the noise in the san siro. often there will be supporters of england and spanish clubs coming on inter forums commenting about how they wish the atmosphere in there stadium was like inters. also the inter ultras are responsible for things such as these:

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  13. soulfly

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    I'll take the atmosphere of Camp Nou over that of San Siro.
     
  14. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    flares= :jimhusker:
     
  15. JHarris

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    don't talk about your ICF like that just cuz they suck.
     
  16. JHarris

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    you won last weekend right?
     
  17. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    lost in the 162' minute
     
  18. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Need footage of brick throwing fans please.
     
  19. JHarris

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    all videos get taken down immediately because in england it is against the law to show the hooligans acting out on video.
     
  20. ChileanNole

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    I thought I saw some videos of the West Ham United fans walking to Millwall. It may have been an old video but it was nuts. I'll try to find it.
     
  21. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Hah I was just joking, I didn't realize they had footage
     
  22. JHarris

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    it's just england mainly because of the west ham icf in the 80's
     
  23. ChileanNole

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    The Major was fucking shit up back then.
     
  24. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    and blowin bubbles
     
  25. JHarris

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    i posted something i got in my email the day after it happened. it had like 30 pics and a couple videos but the vids were gone by the end of the day
     
  26. ChileanNole

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    Yea I remember seeing that video and then I tried to show it to my friend when I got home but it had been taken down, thats when I did a quick search on youtube and found the other video I was talking about.
     
  27. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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