***Official: English Premier League/Championship Thread***

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  1. Andy Reocho

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    This thread will be used to discuss any and all English Premier League talk. As well as the Carling and FA Cup's.

    Premier League Table

    PldWonDrawLossGoDiPts1.Chelsea870112212.Manchester United861111193.Tottenham85127164.Manchester City75117165.Arsenal750214156.Liverpool850310157.Aston Villa74124138.Sunderland84133139.Burnley8404-91210.Everton7313-21011.Stoke City8233-4912.Wigan8305-7913.Bolton7223-1814.Birmingham7215-3715.Fulham7214-4716.Blackburn7214-7717.Wolves8215-7718.Hull City8215-127 19.West Ham7124-35 20.Portsmouth8107-93

    Green = Champions League Group Stage
    Orange = Champions League Play-off Round
    Blue = Europa League
    Red = Relegation to Championship


    Next Matches(10/17-19)
    Aston Villa : Chelsea
    Stoke City : West Ham
    Portsmouth : Tottenham
    Manchester United: Bolton
    Arsenal : Birmingham
    Sunderland : Liverpool
    Everton : Wolves
    Blackburn : Burnley
    Wigan : Manchester City
    Fulham : Hull City


    League Championship Table

    PldWonDrawLossGoDiPts1.Newcastle United1173113242.West Brom1163210213.Middlesbrough116236204.Cardiff City1161412195.Preston North End115426196.Sheffield United114524177.Leicester City114522178.Bristol City114521179.Blackpool1144311610.Nottingham Forest1144311611.Coventry City1144301612.Crystal Palace1043301513.QPR1035231414.Swansea City11353-21415.Watford11353-31416.Sheffield Wednesday1134411317.Derby County11416-41318.Doncaster Rovers11182-211 19.Scunthorpe United11326-71120.Barnsley11326-811 21.Reading11245-61022.Plymouth Argyle11227-9823.Peterborough United11146-7724.Ipswich Town11056-125


    Green = Promoted to Premier League
    Orange = 4-team playoff(winner to Premier League)
    Red = Relegation to League One


    Next Matches(10/17)
    Scunthorpe United : Sheffield United
    Sheffield Wednesday : Coventry City
    West Brom : Reading
    QPR : Preston North End
    Blackpool : Plymouth Argyle
    Bristol City : Peterborough United
    Cardiff City : Crystal Palace
    Doncaster Rovers : Barnsley
    Ipswich Town : Swansea City
    Leicester City : Derby County
    Middlesbrough : Watford
    Nottingham Forest : Newcastle United

    Carling Cup

    Round 4 Draw
    Wednesday 10/27
    Blackburn : Peterborough United
    Barnsley : Manchester United
    Sunderland : Aston Villa
    Portsmouth : Stoke City
    Tottenham : Everton

    Thursday 10/28
    Chelsea : Bolton
    Arsenal : Liverpool
    Manchester City : Scunthorpe United

    News Sites

    ESPN: www.soccernet.com
    Fox Soccer: www.foxsoccer.com
    Sky Sports: www.skysports.com
    BBC Sports: www.bbc.co.uk/sport




    And remember, Newcastle WILL be in the EPL next year
     
  2. Andy Reocho

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    Would anyone else find it ridiculous if all 3 teams that were just promoted stayed up? Part of me thinks it's possible because there ares some shitty teams that were left up for this year
     
  3. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    There is def. a good chance. Burnley and Wolves looks like they will be staying up. I haven't seen Birmingham city yet. Pompeii will come in last IMO.
     
  4. Andy Reocho

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    that's the safest thing in the whole EPL I think haha
     
  5. tne

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    I still see Birmingham going back down, along with Pompey and Blackburn
     
  6. AC

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    As much as I want to see Jozy do well, I can't see Hull staying up... Phil brown is just such a cunt. And if it weren't for David James, Pompey might have already given up 20 goals this year.

    Top 4:
    Chelsea
    ManU
    Arsenal
    Liverpool

    Relegated:
    Birmingham City
    Hull City
    pompey
     
  7. JHarris

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    ManCity and Taxes do not agree with this top 4
     
  8. AC

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    Ehh it happens almost every year where somebody challenges for the top four (other than the big 4) and they usually end up choking down the stretch (Everton and villa lately). So I'm not saying it can't happen but I will believe it when i see it.
     
  9. Andy Reocho

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    :taxes: = :irush:
     
  10. tne

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    I think Man City hangs around until Christmas before falling behind a little bit due to lack of depth, it will be interesting to see who they try to bring in in the January window
     
  11. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    1. Chelsea (drogba has a 14 inch dick)
    2. Man U (Man City>>>>> at end of year)
    3. Man City
    4. Liverpool (had there moments, but City will beat them at home and draw on the road)

    5. Arsenal (City :buttfuck: them)
     
  12. Andy Reocho

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    Carling Cup - Round 3

    Tuesday
    Arsenal v West Brom
    Barnsley v Burnley
    Bolton v West Ham
    Carlisle v Portsmouth
    Hull v Everton
    Leeds v Liverpool
    Manchester City v Fulham
    Manchester United v Wolves
    Nottingham Forest v Blackburn
    Peterborough United v Newcastle
    Preston v Spurs
    Scunthorpe v Port Vale
    Stoke v Blackpool
    mackems v Birmingham

    Wednesday
    Aston Villa v Cardiff City
    Chelsea v QPR
     
  13. ChileanNole

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    You got times for those Carling Cup games??
     
  14. Andy Reocho

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    Nope. Soccernet.com ->scoreboard
     
  15. Topper Bottoms

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    sigh. Ledley King could only stay healthy for so long. Somebody put him out to pasture please.
     
  16. ChileanNole

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    Bump for Carling Cup discussion
     
  17. Andy Reocho

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    newcastle will be sending out a 2nd group today to avoid any further injuries. Carroll, Ameobi, and Gutierez are all out for sure. A lot of younger guys getting appearances today.
     
  18. ChileanNole

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    Is there any chance the Leeds wins today?? I assume they are sending the full squad out there, whereas Liverpool is gonna send a B team at best right??
     
  19. Andy Reocho

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    I think Leeds could give them a fight, since it is a home game for them. We shall see

    I want to see how WBA does against Arsenal, as they are going to run out a B group. WBA just put up 5 last weekend on Boro
     
  20. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    We need to get more City fans here so I can have an official City thread
     
  21. ChileanNole

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    I thought GFA was a City fan, but then he never came back to the soccer threads
     
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    Team News for the Carling Cup matches

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22092009/58/carling-cup-team-news-arsenal-stick-youth.html

    Arsenal v West Brom

    Wenger is expected to again give his Arsenal youngsters and fringe players a chance to impress. Centre-half Philippe Senderos should provide some experience at the back, along with veteran Mikael Silvestre, who has made just one appearance so far this season. Sanchez Watt, 18, was on the bench for the Champions League game at Standard Liege and could start, while Kieran Gibbs, Fran Merida, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere (pictured) may also feature as they stake a claim for a regular first-team place.

    Gonzalo Jara could finally make his long-awaited West Brom debut with Joe Mattock out with an ankle injury while the left-sided Marek Cech also remains sidelined with an ankle problem of his own. Influential midfielder Chris Brunt (knee) has also been ruled out while long-term absentees James Morrison (heel), Neil Clement and Ishmael Miller (both knee) are still missing.

    Barnsley v Burnley

    Barnsley manager Mark Robins is hoping to complete the signing of Slovenia international Suad Filekovic in time for visit of Burnley. Striker Andy Gray and on-loan Hull defender Nathan Doyle are cup-tied, but another recent signing, Julian Gray, should continue in midfield after making his debut on Saturday in the goalless draw with Swansea. Emil Hallfredsson is struggling with a knee injury, Daniel Bogdanovic is recovering from an ankle problem and Jamal Campbell-Ryce (eye) is not yet ready to return after being hit in the face by the ball in the recent defeat at Watford. Striker Iain Hume is expected to be included after having stitches inserted in a cut eye after Saturday's clash.

    Owen Coyle is expected to make a host of changes to his Burnley team for the visit to Barnsley. David Nugent, who came off the bench to score twice on his home debut against Sunderland on Saturday, is cup-tied so will not feature. Midfielder Chris McCann has been ruled out of action for as long as three months having sustained medial ligament damage in his knee in the same match. But Clarets club captain Steven Caldwell could be in contention for a run-out having returned to training on Monday.

    Bolton v West Ham (20:00)

    Bolton midfielder Ricardo Gardner is looking to get a run of games under his belt after returning from a hamstring injury and could be given another run-out at the Reebok Stadium. But midfielder Sean Davis may need surgery to cure a knee problem and will not feature against the Hammers.

    West Ham manager Gianfranco Zola could give Mexican striker Guillermo Franco his debut. Luis Jiminez and Junior Stanislas will also come into the equation to strengthen West Ham's attacking options after missing the 3-2 defeat to Liverpool. But the Hammers are set to be without Matthew Upson and Valon Behrami who were both injured at the weekend.

    Carlisle Utd v Portsmouth

    Centre-half Richard Keogh is back for Carlisle and will challenge Danny Livesey and Peter Murphy for a first-team spot. Youngster Simon Lakeland is ruled out with a medial ligament injury but manager Gregg Abbott has no other injuries in his squad. However, Abbott may shuffle his strikers after two games without a goal. Joe Anyinsah and Gary Madine are expected to be recalled for the Cumbrians.

    Portsmouth will again be without defensive duo Steve Finnan (hamstring) and Hermann Hreidarsson (foot) so manager Paul Hart could rotate his squad. Papa Bouba Diop is still out with a hamstring problem and new striker Aruna Dindane is undergoing a two-week fitness programme in a bid to overcome a knee injury.

    Leeds Utd v Liverpool

    Leigh Bromby is cup-tied and Rui Marques is out with an Achilles injury, so Leeds boss Simon Grayson must opt for fit-again Lee Naylor or Lubo Michalik to start alongside Patrick Kisnorbo. Grayson, who has no other new injury or suspension problems, confirmed he will pick from a full-strength squad, but hinted he could make changes to his line-up as he already has one eye on next Saturday's League One clash at MK Dons.

    Daniel Agger could be included in Liverpool's squad. The Danish international has been out all season following a back operation, but returned to full training last week. Liverpool are expected to make several changes from the side that won 3-2 at West Ham on Saturday, with full-back Fabio Aurelio standing by for his first start of the season after a knee problem.

    Nottm Forest v Blackburn

    Blackburn-born Joe Garner will return from suspension to the Nottingham Forest squad and will compete for a striking role along with Dele Adebola, Dexter Blackstock, Robert Earnshaw, David McGoldrick and Nathan Tyson. Boss Billy Davies is likely to make changes and Paul Smith could replace Lee Camp in goal having played against Bradford and Middlesbrough in previous rounds. Radoslaw Majewski is unlikely to be risked.

    Blackburn manager Sam Allardyce will make wholesale changes and strikers Nikola Kalinic and Benni McCarthy are likely to be given run-outs. Midfielders Steven Reid, who so far this season has played only in the last round of the cup at Gillingham, Steven Nzonzi and Brett Emerton are in contention for starting places. Defender Gael Givet injured a knee at Goodison Park and definitely will not feature, while on-loan forward Franco Di Santo is unavailable as Chelsea do not want him to be cup-tied. Defender Lars Jacobsen could also return having missed the Everton defeat after his wife gave birth on Sunday.

    Peterborough v Newcastle

    Peterborough manager Darren Ferguson is set to name a full-strength side. Utility man Charlie Lee remains sidelined with the ankle injury he picked up in training last week but Ferguson has no other injury problems. He confirmed all three of the players he replaced during Saturday's win over Reading, Chris Whelpdale, Toumani Diagouraga and Tommy Williams, were substituted for tactical reasons and should all start.

    Caretaker Newcastle boss Chris Hughton will hand his youngsters a chance as he rests key men ahead of Saturday's Championship visit to Ipswich. That could mean opportunities for the likes of Nile Ranger, Kazenga LuaLua, Tamas Kadar, Ryan Donaldson and Haris Vuckic. Loan signing Zurab Khizanishvili is ineligible for the game having already played in the second round of the competition for Blackburn at Gillingham. Full-back Danny Simpson is a doubt after jarring an ankle in Saturday's 3-1 win over Plymouth, while Shola Ameobi (foot) and Jonas Gutierrez (hamstring) remain on the sidelines.

    Scunthorpe v Port Vale

    Scunthorpe striker Gary Hooper is a serious injury concern after hobbling off with a hamstring injury in the second half of the 1-1 draw with Bristol City on Saturday. Youngsters Peter Winn and Matthew Godden are vying to replace Hooper on the substitutes bench. Northern Ireland midfielder Grant McCann could be recalled after his late leveller at Ashton Gate, with Michael O'Connor likely to make way.

    Port Vale manager Micky Adams should have the same squad at his disposal to face Scunthorpe. Assistant player/manager Geoff Horsfield remains sidelined with the groin strain he picked up in training on Friday, with Adams not expecting to see the striker in a playing capacity for another couple of weeks. Fellow forward James Lawrie has returned to training after having his appendix out but this game is expected to come too soon for him, while goalkeeper Joe Anyon continues to make progress with his recovery from a broken leg. Midfielder Dave Howland may again find himself on the bench having showed plenty of character since finding himself on the transfer list at the start of the season.

    Stoke City v Blackpool

    Uruguay international Diego Arismendi will make his eagerly awaited Stoke debut as none of Stoke's starting line-up from Saturday's draw at Bolton are likely to feature. But the fit again James Beattie, Tuncay, Liam Lawrence and Andy Wilkinson could be included.

    Rookie Blackpool defender Ash Eastham has been recalled from his loan spell at Hyde United and could be thrust into action at the Britannia Stadium. The Seasiders are short of defenders after Ian Evatt sustained a hamstring injury in Saturday's 1-0 win at Nottingham Forest, ruling him out for at least a fortnight.

    Sunderland v Birmingham

    Sunderland boss Steve Bruce will hand summer signings John Mensah and Paulo da Silva their first home starts. Ghana international Mensah made his debut as a substitute in the 4-1 Premier League victory over Hull on September 12, while Paraguay skipper da Silva started the 4-1 win at Norwich in the second round. However, midfielder Lee Cattermole, who missed Saturday's defeat at Burnley with a heel problem, remains a doubt, while keeper Marton Fulop (also heel) is still out.

    Wide man Sebastian Larsson (hamstring) is a recent addition to Birmingham's injury list, while full-back Stephen Carr has suffered a recurrence of his thigh problem. James McFadden (thigh), Cameron Jerome (ankle), Franck Queudrue, Gregory Vignal, Marcus Bent (all hamstring), Martin Taylor (ankle), Lee Carsley (back), Damien Johnson (strain) and David Murphy (knee) all remain unavailable. Liam Ridgewell is expected to return at left-back having made a quick recovery from a broken leg, while there may be a debut for Giovanny Espinoza.
     
  23. Andy Reocho

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    u don't need a City thread, ever. :gfa:
     
  24. Andy Reocho

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    I'm off to work, but HOWAY THE LADS. talk to you losers tonight :beerchug:
     
  25. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    :meh:
     
  26. Andy Reocho

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  27. ChileanNole

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    I wont be back till tomorrow more than likely so can you post the Carling Cup results. If not, I'll do it tomorrow morning.
     
  28. ChileanNole

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    Carling Cup added to OP
     
  29. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    Fulham --> :buttfuck: <--Man City


    I'm out, catch you all tommrow

    :welpseeyalater:
     
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  31. Andy Reocho

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    that first save on the first goal was impressive. I was thinking a young squad might struggle against a hot football club(just put up 5 this weekend against boro, who's in 3rd in the Championship), but was wrong. No big upsets today outside of Newcastle, if you all consider it an upset, considering we played "B" squad today
     
  32. Andy Reocho

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    Oh and on that previous comment, the only player that played who is a normal starter is Steven Taylor. Guthrie starts from time to time, as well as Ranger of late, but this was a terrible group of players on the pitch. Honestly, I haven't heard of 4 of those guys, and the others I only know from reading online(no first time experience)
     
  33. tne

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    Arsenals young players always seem to do well in the Carling Cup, and im glad Wenger sticks with him, he even put out a lot of young players when we reached the finals a couple years back, was a crazy game

    Chelsea vs. Arsenal Carling Cup 2007 Final

    and for lazy people

    Chelsea - Arsenal fight
     
  34. Andy Reocho

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    I remember that. It was so funny to watch because Ibramovic(sp?) was going crazy in the box if I remember right.
     
  35. tne

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    yea, and John Terry got kicked in the face, always a plus
     
  36. Andy Reocho

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    Heard that this weekend Newcastle and Ipswich will be wearing special 1-time jerseys to honor Sir Bobby Robson(auctioning after game to raise money for SBR's fund). Along with that they are renaming their North End seats in honor of Sir Bobby.
     
  37. ChileanNole

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    Carling Cup results added to OP.
     
  38. Andy Reocho

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    EPL Matches

    Saturday Sept 26
    Portsmouth v. Everton(ESPN2)
    Blackburn v. Aston Villa
    Tottenham v. Burnley
    Birmingham v. Bolton
    Wigan v. Chelsea
    Stoke City v. Manchester United
    Liverpool v. Hull City
    Fulham v. Arsenal

    Sunday Sept 27
    Sunderland v. Wolverhampton

    Monday Sept 28
    Manchester City v. West Ham


    Championship Matches

    Saturday Sept 26
    Scunthorpe United v. Doncaster Rovers
    Sheffield Wendesday v. Cardiff City
    Swansea City v. Sheffield United
    West Brom Albion v. Crystal Palace
    Blackpool v. Peterborough United
    Coventry City v. Liverpool
    Derby County v. Bristol City
    Leicester City v. Preston North End
    QPR v. Barnsley
    Reading v. Watford
    Ipswich Town v. Newcastle

    Sunday Sept 27
    Plymouth Argyle v. Nottingham Forrest
     
  39. ChileanNole

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    Is the Monday EPL game on ESPN2?
     
  40. Andy Reocho

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    It should be, as ESPN said Monday games were part of the deal with FSC, but soccernet.com doesn't say anything?
     
  41. Topper Bottoms

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    Classes and college football has been wrecking my soccer watching. Has anyone caught the past couple spurs games? I expected losses after Modric went down but has anyone seen how they actually look on the pitch?
     
  42. BLACK & GOLDschlager

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    I haven't seen them in a few weeks besides highlights
     
  43. JHarris

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    just thought i would let you guys know that i just traced my dads side of the family back to where they came from and now my epl club is west ham. also both my clubs hooligans/ultras could kick man city's hooligans ass
     
  44. Andy Reocho

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    yea fuck milwall
     
  45. JHarris

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    i agree. i've never liked them since they killed pete dunham
     
  46. ChileanNole

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    :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

    Bovver should have died
     
  47. JHarris

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    now if only west ham could get that piece Jimenez off the team........ :oshit: :popcorn:
     
  48. ChileanNole

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    :irush: :irush: :irush: :irush: :irush:
     
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