Official Middle East/ISIS thread: Tehran up another part of the Middle East

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  1. JGator1

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  2. Illinihockey

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    Hope he was burned really badly
     
  3. JGator1

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    SAAF Mig-21 went down in North Hama, unsure if it was the result of AA fire or mechanical difficulties. The pilot died while landing.



    [​IMG] Sami ‏@Paradoxy13
    #Breaking: FSA Jaish al-Nasr confirms reports & Jaish al-Islam takes responsibility for downing an Assad Mig-21 with AA fire #Hama, #Syria




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    new reports , the Pilot Musa Trekman of the fallen Jet died suffering from his injuries , he was hit by guns while parachute landing
     
  4. Jax Teller

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    If true that's completely fucked up (yes I know everything over there is fucked up). Pretty sure civilized countries don't shoot at pilots ejecting from aircraft.
     
  5. WhiskeyDelta

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    Officially no, but it'd happen. We're just always on the team with aircraft so we don't see our guys doing it. Same reason why guys in machine gun nests always turned up dead in WW1/2. People tend to take revenge upon those who were killi them with impunity moments ago.
     
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  6. JGator1

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    Important to note that the SAAF is primarily Alawite and after years of civil war pretty much every pilot has participated in killing civilians. Honestly for those guys it's probably better to die like that as opposed to being alive and getting tortured to death.
     
  7. Jax Teller

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    Well there is a lot of shit that happened in ww1 and 2 that wouldn't fly today.
     
  8. WhiskeyDelta

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    Because it hasn't had to. The wars we've fought since Vietnam have more or less been "destroy enemy and then occupy or depart" not "fight tooth and nail for years". If we got into the shit with a real enemy, the Nicenice rules we try to abide by now would come back fast.
     
  9. Jax Teller

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    I doubt we'd ever see things like carpet bombing become an accepted part of war again.

    Hopefully we never find out.
     
  10. Can I Spliff it

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    Well, we did use weapons that poisoned a lot of land and caused tons of developmental diseases in children in Fallujah and stuff

    I mean, sure, it isn't executing someone in the heat of the moment instead of imprisoning them, but those weapons have to be created and designed to do those sorts of things, and people had to have been told to use them, so it bothers me :idk:
     
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  12. Jax Teller

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    Talking about DU rounds?
     
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    Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 2h2 hours ago
    BREAKING: At least 27 killed, 75 wounded in #Ankara blast - @HDNER

    Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 2h2 hours ago
    TURKEY: Explosion believed to have been caused by a car bomb that went off near bus stops: #Ankara Governor’s office - @CeylanWrites

    Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 2h2 hours ago
    Conflict News Retweeted Travel - State Dept

    UPDATE: Explosion in #Ankara comes 2 days after the US warned citizens of a possible terrorist attack in the city.
    Travel - State Dept ‏@TravelGov Mar 11
    US citizens in Ankara: Potential terrorist plot to attack Turkish govt buildings & housing, Bahcelievler area http://ow.ly/ZmMY7

    Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 13m13 minutes ago
    BREAKING: Australian ambassador was only 20 meters from the #Ankara bombing according to @JulieBishopMP

    Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 9m9 minutes ago
    BREAKING: Ankara court orders ban on access to Facebook and Twitter in Turkey over images of blast victims - Reuters
     
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  15. Can I Spliff it

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    Guess they have an excuse to clamp down on the Kurds, regardless if the Kurds did it or not
     
  16. Jax Teller

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    I've read other articles that say the effects of DU rounds haven't been tied to increases in cancer rates, etc. Maybe they are just biased. In regards to the VICE article, the US doesn't deny using DU rounds, and I believe only two countries in the world ban them.

    I'm also confused about your statement that those weapons are designed for that stuff? Are you saying DU rounds were designed to cause cancer or birth defects?
     
  17. Can I Spliff it

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    Im saying someone had to put them together and know them inside out, and that that sort of thing is a possibility. I'm not saying the military ordered them to be like that, they kinda just buy what they're told to buy
     
  18. Jax Teller

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    I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. They were designed to pierce armor. Any side effects are not a reason that they were designed or used. Especially when the side effects are disputed. I don't think that whoever designed them was all "let's make ammo to cause birth defects or cancer".
     
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  20. Can I Spliff it

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    I may not communicating it well, what I'm saying that it was done and designed thoughtlessly (hopefully, anyway) and that these consequences became glossed over or ignored. There are a ton of reports on prototypes for this or that that the military uses that also environmental impacts for their things

    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a956443.pdf
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    They do account for environmental impacts for a lot of different things when trying new things out
     
  21. Jax Teller

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    OK yes they may have overlooked that or figured the risks were minor. I thought you were saying they were designed that way on purpose.
     
  22. Can I Spliff it

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    Jesus I really hope they weren't
     
  23. southlick

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    http://rudaw.net/NewsDetails.aspx?pageid=201231

    ISIS commander al-Shishani reported to be ‘clinically dead’


    ERBL, Kurdistan Region- The Islamic State’s (ISIS) war minister Omar al-Shishani is believed to be “clinically dead” days after it was reported that he was killed in an air strike in Syria.

    “Shishani is not able to breathe on his own and is using machines. He has been clinically dead for several days,” said Rami Abdel Rahman, head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, according to AFP news agency.

    Abdel Rahman said ISIS war minister is hospitalized in the ISIS capital of Raqqa province in northern Syria.

    US defense officials said last week that al-Shishani was killed in an air strike in the town of Shaddadi.

    Al-Shishani was a top ISIS commander who was posted to the Kobani front during the siege of the Kurdish city in 2014.

    Shaddadi was recently taken from ISIS by Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) that includes a large number of the Kurdish Peoples Protection Units (YPG)
     
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  24. Illinihockey

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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An American fighting for Islamic State was taken into custody in northern Iraq after emerging from territory controlled by the militant group in Syria, media reports said on Monday.
    CBS News, citing two sources with the Kurdish peshmerga military force, said the American fighter was trying to return to Turkey. He was identified as Muhammad Jamal Amin, 27, of Virginia, it said, citing Kurdish news organizations.

    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-fighter-u-custody-iraq-reports-113618632.html
     
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    AFP news agency ‏@AFP 8m8 minutes ago
    #UPDATE Putin orders withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria http://u.afp.com/Z76S

    Moscow (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday ordered the defence ministry to begin the withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria on Tuesday.

    "The task that was set before our defence ministry and armed forces has as a whole been completed and so I order the defence ministry to from tomorrow start the withdrawal of the main part of our military contingents from the Syrian Arab Republic," Putin told Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu in televised comments.
     
  26. enjj

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    Ok what's the real purpose of leaving now? War is far from over.
     
  27. Illinihockey

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    Russia doesn't give a fuck about ISIS, they cared about Lattakia which is now safe.
     
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  29. Illinihockey

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    So essentially what they had before they entered the war.
     
  30. Illinihockey

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    antidaeshbag ‏@pepperman4ever 2m2 minutes ago
    breaking! Kurds confirm death of Abu Omar Al Chichani!
     
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  31. JGator1

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    They also likely realize how inept the SAA is and don't wanna commit the forces that Assad would need to launch any serious offensive. Now they just have to hope the SAA can hold onto what they've gained.
     
  32. JGator1

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    It's March 15th in Damascus which means the Syrian Civil War has been ongoing for 5 full years.
     
  33. WhiskeyDelta

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    Officially putting it in the "shitty war" category. All the best wars end in 4.
     
  34. enjj

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    Wouldn't you put WW2 in the best wars?
     
  35. WhiskeyDelta

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    Only counts after America got involved. Until then it was UK/France/Russia* v Germany/Italy and China v Japan.
     
  36. Brian Shute

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    I was actually worried about these guys until now. If they're getting ISIS HR department members to snitch, this things in the bag. Snag that dental plan open enrollment file and that's all she wrote.
     
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  38. JGator1

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    Iraqi miitia sniper taking out ISIS cameramen


    FSA group Liwa 313 uses a tunnel bomb under SAA position in northern Hama
     
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    Reports have been coming out the past few days that Bashar's brother Maher al-Assad has been moved to the General Staff of the SAA. Article in spoiler, sorry for the shit formatting.

    Maher al-Assad moved from key
    command: pro-regime outlet

    The Latakia News Network claimed that the Syrian president's powerful brother has been transferred from his command of the 4th Armored Division.
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    BEIRUT – A popular pro-regime Facebook page has claimed that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s powerful brother has been moved out of his de-facto command of the elite 4th Armored Division.



    “Maher al-Assad has been transferred from the command of 4th Armored Division’s 42nd Brigade to the General Staff [of the Syrian Army],” the Latakia News Network—which has a following of over 200,000 people—alleged overnight Thursday.



    Latakia News Network’s post was met with shock and incredulity by the regime-supporting fans of the Facebook page.




    One commentator, Hagop Georgi, asked the administration of the outlet if their report was true “or just empty words?” He added that officers transferred to the Syrian army’s General Staff were “quasi-frozen,” implying their influence and status was checked.



    Another Facebook user, Hussein N Ismail, voiced hope that the Latakia News Network confirmed their report so that followers of the outlet “lose trust in the news on your page.”



    The administrators of the group responded to both posts with assurances that the report was correct, prompting Ismail to insist that he heard Maher al-Assad had not been transferred.



    Yet another commentator warned the Latakia News Network that “you can’t hide the dog that has already barked,” in reference to their highly controversial claim.



    The post by the Facebook news page adds further fuel to rumors swirling around Maher al-Assad. The pro-rebel Al-Etihad press claimed on March 16 that the Syrian president’s brother had been transferred to the General Staff’s Information Department, a move that would “deprive him of his influence as a field officer [commanding] one of the strangest strike units in the Syrian army.”



    Al-Etihad added that General Ali Mahmoud would replace Maher al-Assad as commander of the 4th Armored Division’s 42nd Brigade.



    Although Maher al-Assad is technically only the commander of the brigade, he has de-facto leadership over the whole 15,000-man strong 4th Armored Division, which is one of the key units protecting the Syrian regime.
     
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    An American service member was killed in northern Iraq Saturday, a senior military official told CBS News.

    The official said the American died in Makhmur, CBS Radio News correspondent Cami McCormick reports.

    Earlier, a statement from U.S. Central Command said that a coalition service member died in Iraq "as a result of enemy action" but didn't identify the service member or list their nationality.
     
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  44. Illinihockey

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    ISIS takes responsibility for the Brussels attack
     
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    Weird.
     
  46. Illinihockey

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    The Associated Press ‏@AP 12m12 minutes ago
    BREAKING: The Islamic State group has trained at least 400 fighters to target Europe in deadly waves, the AP has learned.
     
  47. Aaron Hernandez

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    Transitioning pretty rapidly from a military power into a conventional terrorist organization.
     
  48. Juicy Locke

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    Anybody have a take on why the bomb maker would be a part of the attack? You'd think he would be needed for potential future plots.
     
  49. JGator1

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    map of Palmyra
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  50. Illinihockey

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    SAA troops massing outside of Palmyra, its going to fall soon.