There’s giant jenga at the brewery down the street from me (which, like most breweries, is very kid friendly) and I’ve never seen anyone but adults playing it.
There aren’t many breweries around me, but I can’t imagine wanting to bring your kids? To be clear I’m imagining you doing some kind of tasting tour, not eating a meal. I remember doing tasting tours at breweries during college with friends and can’t imagine bringing a kid along to that.
Oh and one addition to the bringing kids to public places. fucking clean up after them. And if you’re at a place where you have a server, and you don’t fucking clean up after them, then fucking tip extra.
It’s not that complicated: 1. There’s nothing wrong with taking kids to a brewpub in the middle of the fucking day. If your kids can’t behave in public, then it’s either that the parents are generally indulgent assholes, or the kid is having a bad day and a good parent whisks that kid away out of courtesy to everyone else. 2. Dogs are dogs. I love them. But there’s zero fucking reason a person has to bring their dog everywhere all the time. Relax. You can leave the dog home for an hour while you go to dinner. It’s not going to commit suicide. Again, if it’s during the day and you’re cruising around and go to a pet friendly place that’s fine. But you don’t need your 120-lb lab mix with you at a nice-ish restaurant at 8:00 PM. You look like a fucking twat. 3. As for the “get a babysitter” comments, kindly fuck off. Believe it or not, some parents actually want to spend their time off with their kids. I’m not leaving my well-behaved kids at home (they’re older now so it’s not an issue) and depriving myself of a family dinner because some vaping asshole who still has sunglasses on top of their head 3 hours after sunset can’t concentrate on the hoppy notes of their $14 IPA just because a kid is in the room.
I've given some obscene tips when I looked under the table and saw all the food my kid spilled. big stuff I'll pick up but I'm not going to on my hands and knees picking up mac & cheese one noodle at a time.
Do both. I tip minimum 30% if kids are with me, just cuz i really appreciate it. And clean that macaroni mess on the floor up yourself.
Agreed, usually tip extra if we've made a big mess we can't quickly clean up or the server goes out of their way to be nice to our daughter and give her crayons and a coloring sheet.
Also find it's really strange when people get so uptight about kids at breweries while they, like, play Guess Who at a brewery. "Yeah but it's not for actual children!" Weird generation of childless people appropriating child stuff for themselves. Like summer camps for adults annd stuff. Seems all fun and cool but also weird to be so tethered to one's inner child while resenting actual children.
I can't tell if your anger is really towards people that don't have children, or stemming from your own lack of freedom based on your misbehaved spawn. I don't think enjoying jenga or other bar games automatically makes one tethered to one's inner child, nor do I think that's an inherently bad thing!
We have an 8-month-old and some friends have a one-year-old. We went to his 1st birthday party and made plans to go to dinner the next weekend at a decent restaurant -- like white table cloth with $40 to $50 entrees and a $90 ribeye. We obviously leave our kid at home thinking it's a parents night out for a nice dinner, but they brought theirs and are like, "Oh you didn't bring your 8-month-old son? We thought we were getting the kids together." I'm still dumbfounded by it. Their kid was good all things considered, but the dad had to get up twice to walk around with the son to entertain him.
This carries over to parents going to breweries, too. Growing up, our parents had to take us to boring ass museums and parks and shit. Now parents can still go to the places they went without kids.
It's definitely language weird incel reddit guys use and generally shorthand for "crotchspawn" which comes across as misogynistic.
It's not a bad thing at all! It's odd that some of those same people would get so touchy about actual children being at that same place.
I’m all over the place on this sort of stuff. As someone who is a dink, I try to understand and have sympathy for parents because I know it’s hard. This discussion brings up a larger cultural point where kids in public in the USA have always been more frowned upon than in Europe. I’ve seen children in high chairs at Michelin restaurants in Europe. It’s just expected that you bring your kids everywhere. I think that’s a big reason why Europeans are more socially developed than many American teenagers and young adults these days. On the other hand, the thinly veiled contempt that a lot of couples with kids have for dinks gets sooooo fucking old. A decent number of those people that you think have it made and just don’t want responsibility may have had miscarriages etc. Nobody deserves a medal for procreating, we’ve been doing it for a minute. It’s tough, it can suck, but it was indeed a choice. Lastly, dogs rule. If you have a dog that cannot be safe in public, humps others, bothers ppl etc, do not bring them in public though. I don’t like taking our dogs to breweries just because they have so much energy that they will try to get other dogs to play with them the whole time if we’re not minding the leash constantly.
I usually don't say that or childfree since it sounds weird, both the spawn/crotchspawn stuff wayyy predates that on 4chan and reddit.
“Childless” is a shitty term. The sort of term you use when you say “a tragic car crash left them childless,” not when you’re describing someone that can’t or doesn’t want to have kids
I didn’t address it until issue was taken with Nug ’s terminology, but not having kids isn’t a choice for a whole lot of people. Terminology implying that they’re “less” or “without” can be pretty shitty.
Which goes both ways, I'm not bringing my kid to a bar even if it's allowed but so many millennials have disposable income often because they're putting off having kids at a higher rate than their parents and sometimes have an unreasonable expectation that kids shouldn't be around in public spaces. The thing that irritates me more though is there are people (usually they only complain online) who should be old enough to understand human behavior have an expectation that any inappropriate behavior from a kid is something the parent is completely fine with.
Yeah that's a shitty implication. Just seems like the strict diction of that word is just, the not having of a child. "Spawn" drags in some dehumanizing zest.
Somewhere around 7-9 months can actually a golden age where they can sit up in the high chair but aren’t yet losing their minds like a toddler and needing constant entertainment. We went out to dinner together a decent amount around then as it starts getting harder.
Fair. I've used spawn a few times on this here board but totally ignorant on the word's subtleties. Next you're gonna tell me that I can't use "furbaby" anymore.
A couple years ago one of my boys classmates had a birthday party at a brewery, i think it was his 8th birthday party. And it was a great time. Take that user Nug