Super Bowl LVIII Mega-Thread - Gameday - Chiefs Dynasty, May Never Lose Again

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  1. DirtBall

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    Didn’t Reid say they would of went for 2 or went for it on 4th instead of kicking a FG to prevent a 3rd possession?
     
  2. GoodForAnother

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    football is probably the sport most influenced by random luck. weird shaped ball and such a matchup driven sport that one injury can completely change a game

    have to get lucky a few times to get a SB
     
  3. bro

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    Kelce would have turned it on in the playoffs anyway, because he is a HOFer, but it didn't hurt getting to torch the tattered Bills LB core in the divisional round.
     
  4. GoodForAnother

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    Dolphins had significant injuries too and we had the weather on our side. The stat out there that this was the toughest SB path by dvoa is misleading imo due to injury issues for those two teams. Thuney and Omenihu were big losses but those are places the chiefs happen to be deep, so some luck there too
     
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  5. GoodForAnother

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  6. bro

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    it could have become a thing with a different team, but that type of stuff tends not to phase the Chiefs. if Diggs did that to McDermott, the Bills would have lost and we'd still be discussing it. But the Chiefs keep the lid on it and win the game.

    also, football is football. people are jacked up. Greenlaw literally tore his ACL running onto the field because he was too pumped up.
     
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  7. Andy Reocho

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    I still am a bit shocked at how booty Trent Williams was considering the level he normally plays at.
     
  8. bro

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    also requires a good team and QB to take advantage of the breaks

     
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  9. GoodForAnother

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    same, he got bodied by Pennel a couple times, hell McDuffie got past him twice in space. he hasn’t been as good this year but I think age has caught him some
     
  10. Owsley

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    Achilles, and that seems like a weird fluke much more so than a byproduct of being too pumped up.
     
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  11. bro

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    of course it was bad luck, but his decision to spring onto the field was unnecessary and weird.
     
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  12. dump

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    I mean did you see how he was running out onto the field compared to his counterpart Fred Warner?
     
  13. Owsley

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    I really don’t think it was, but no need to dbl this up arguing something inane.
     
  14. dump

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    Also its so bizarre to me you had 49ers players admit to not knowing the OT rules after the game. Like come on man thats your fucking career.
     
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  15. bro

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    ya I guess he didn't do anything too crazy, just quite a contrast to #27.

     
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  16. ohhaithur

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    Yes, but two teams scoring consecutive 75 yard TD drives is less likely than people are acting
     
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  17. bro

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    there is nothing unlikely about Mahomes driving for a TD in OT. sometimes you just need to know ball.
     
  18. dump

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    bro while making this post

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  19. bro

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    defense tiring... mahomes dialed in .... "who could know if the Chiefs would drive down the field and score!??!"

    only way to beat mahomes in that situation is to have the ball last or get lucky with a turnover. I'd be incensed if Buffalo was in that spot and McD chose to give Mahomes the ball second.
     
  20. steamengine

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    You need to photoshop a burning folding table under TR here
     
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  21. ohhaithur

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    Well I'm not sure if you watched the game but SF famously didn't score a TD so there were in fact not two consecutive 75 yard TD drives and therefore Reid didn't have to go for two
     
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  22. racer

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    When SF was driving in OT I got the feeling that the chiefs were toast, based mostly on the weapons mahomes would need to make plays in that situation. I always have some faith he will make it happen no matter what, but I legitimately thought it would most likely end on a failed fourth down attempt or forced throw int at that time.
     
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  23. bro

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    would SF had scored if they had to go for it on 4th and 3ish from their own 9? because that's the theoretical situation after Mahomes drives down the field and scores a TD.

    There are stats and numbers at play. and then there is just understanding that you are playing Mahomes in OT.
     
  24. wes tegg

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    Chiefs were going to win the game regardless of whether SF took the ball or deferred.
     
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  25. ohhaithur

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    Wait so SF had no chance to win and we're upset that they were potentially putting themselves in a situation where stopping one 50/50 chance on a two point conversion was bad?
     
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  26. racer

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    bro is spiraling
     
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  27. bro

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    Shanahan is an offensive mastermind. He should want the 2-point play in his offense's hands, not Mahomes.
     
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  28. bro

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    you don't have to constantly post like this just because people are having a discussion you are not interested in.
     
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  29. wes tegg

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    Nothing was stopping him from going for two if they scored on their first possession.
     
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  30. afb

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    It is but it’s probably higher than you’re giving it credit for since it’s the 5th quarter and the defenses were rightfully beyond gassed
     
  31. bro

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    you are right that he could of, but not sure anyone in the league would do that.
     
  32. ohhaithur

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    Y'know what helps a gassed defense? Going second
     
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  33. ohhaithur

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    Nothing was stopping him for going for it on fourth down either, which was the bigger decision than the coin toss. And if Mahomes is "just going to score a TD" then that's the decision that should be up for discussion. Not a coin-flip decision about the coin flip
     
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  34. wes tegg

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    Same page. I was just responding to the wanting to go for two rather than having Mahomes do it.
     
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  35. afb

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    Clearly not….
     
  36. ohhaithur

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    I agree. I'm also digging this Schrödinger's Two Point Conversion discourse across the NFL nowadays

    Two point attempts are both super easy (SF has no chance to beat Mahomes yet would hate for the game to come down to stopping one) and both super hard (any time a team down 14 goes for two after their first TD which improves their chances to win by 15%)

    It's weird we never know for sure if they're easy or hard until after the team succeeds/fails!
     
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  37. GoodForAnother

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    most of the smart football guy Twitter types seem to think there’s likely not much of a difference either way
     
  38. Jake Barnes

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    I feel this way.

    Once it got to the fourth, seemed like Mahomes had the SF defense solved and only time or user error was stopping them.
     
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  39. ned's head

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    It's not like it was a 60-60 game going into OT. There had been what - 3 tds collectively in all of regulation? To just assume that one was coming in OT is kind of silly to me.
     
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  40. ohhaithur

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    The team that had no chance to stop Mahomes forced a 13 play drive and got a 4th down opportunity to win the game. Not like it matter, KC had won the game already so it was a waste of time to even play
     
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  41. Sub-Zero

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    It’s not entirely unreasonable to expect the teams would trade field goals in overtime and setting up a sudden death. KC had one (1) touchdown and it was on a short field after the punt recovery. It’s actually interesting when Kyle says he didn’t expect to stop KC. he’s hoping his defense can at least just force a field goal.

    It’s easy to say mahomes is scoring a TD but it’s not nuts to coach as if you are more likely to trade field goals. I personally want the ball 2nd but this is so overblown for what was again the first time a rule was ever applied
     
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  42. afb

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    I never said they had no chance. I started by saying it’s somewhere between your opinion and your critique.
     
  43. ohhaithur

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    It's not in the playoffs. There's no situation in which it's even 60/40 and I doubt there's even a 55/45 decision either way. Which was literally the intent of the rule! To make it so the coin flip didn't matter
     
  44. beerleagueman

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    that Mahomes RPO on 4th down where he easily got the 1st is when I knew it was game . With the center snaps not being clean some of that game that was probably SF’s chance to blow up that play and end it
     
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  45. Redav

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    I remember wondering why Shanahan took the ball first. Then I thought of the protect of a tie after 2 possessions and idk didn't seem like a terrible play. Obviously it didn't work.
     
  46. kennypowers

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  47. racer

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    He thought a TD ended the game imo
     
  48. GoodForAnother

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    SF went full Joe Barry too, when MVS’s dumb ass turned a six yard gain into a four yard loss they backed way off and gave up a free seven on the next play. they were super soft, Wilks coached scared throughout the fourth quarter and OT
     
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  50. afb

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    He literally said he wanted the third possession
     
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