so we are at the point again where people act like Biden is cooked because the news is paying more attention to him than Trump even though it is early May?
Fine I went and looked and it's gone up in the past couple of months and then has noticeably taken a sharp negative turn in the past week or so. I still contend that him going out there and acting like protestors are at the level they were back in the summer of 2020 is going to absolutely hurt his chances more than help.
correct politics aside, would Biden coming out today and fully supporting the college student protestors actually help him in the polls? seems quite uncertain.
Still haven't said whether you approve of Biden doing a both-sides speech or not or if you think he's done a good job of dealing with Israel, which is concerning and frankly says a lot about you.
Him doing a both-sides speech and not even referring to police cracking down and physically brutalizing protestors is bad dude. We're talking about protests that were more peaceful than the Vietnam era on college campuses.
again, I'm not talking about the merits of his speech. I'm just not sure we know what position would actually increase his standing in a general election poll. as we all know, people severely dislike protestors in the present and then look back at them more favorably years down the road.
If you have evidence this is helping him then I'm all ears, I think frankly pissing off the young voting block which was absolutely critical to him winning in 2020 is genuinely scary to me and is making me think he's going to possibly lose. If it's not clear I want him to win, I don't want Trump, I think Trump will make so many more people worse off and I wish the Biden admin would stop capitulating to Israel when we've seen polling show that the public is turning on this issue.
The fuck are you talking about. I've routinely criticized the way he handled the early days post October 7th and the risk taking regarding trying to not isolate the Israeli s. He's had some success negotiating aid, Israel withdrawing, on and on. Where I get off the bus is the binary way this all gets treated. I have no opinion on a speech I didn't watch regarding a topic I haven't kept up on because campus politics are mostly nonsense.
people can't grapple with their wages going up and with an increase in prices. this will continue to be a thing as long as mega-corps / capitalism plows forward undeterred you keep saying this
The most black pilling thing of the last few years is people's reaction to full employment, especially segments of the left.A disaster for America as a progressive project.
Saying what, that he's hurting his chances with younger voters or that the youth vote was critical to him in 2020?
Sure I've followed it as far as it's unavoidable to a degree but I try not to Because again It's dumb
I wonder if Trump wins they’ll put a McDonald’s in the West Bank Maralago kushner is floating. Ah well, Joe Biden stinks.
Ceding the rhetorical ground of "israel MEANS jewish" is an extremely dumb and bad move but also feels inevitable because the typical american is a paste eating gullible moron
He’s so fucking evil man. If there’s a god (I know there isn’t but god damnit) he will get what is coming to him before it’s all said done. What a disgusting human
There were hundreds of protests before the campus protests btw, let's not diminish this as just being some young college educated issue.
They think he's cooked because he's hemorrhaging support among the cohort with predictably the lowest turnout. Seems he's not even courting their vote anymore. I think he's quietly pulling votes from "moderate" republicans instead. Sense I get is that Biden's strategists have a pretty well calculated gameplan, and punatively squashing campus protests is part of it.
I think it’s clear that Biden’s thoughts and policy in Gaza are not a misstep/ he’s out of touch/ he’s listening to the wrong people. This is what he wants and who he is and always has been.
But not to the extent that you'd do anything differently? Like say, protest and try to get him to change his position for example.
does changing his opinion/stance lead to a higher chance of a Trump victory in 2024? I’m sure their internal polling says it does, so I understand trying to cater to the moderate/anti Trump Republican.
First, his Israel policy is grossly immoral and will have massively negative consequences for the world for generations - long after he's gone. There's still the question of right and wrong here. But since most Americans don't give a fuck, let's concentrate on the election: Biden can't afford to lose support from any bloc of voters, given his razor thin margins in the swing states in 2020. I wouldn't so much worry about losing support among young voters, but rather core democratic voters as a whole -- particularly millennials and minority voters. If he loses even one or two % of those voters, he's not going to even come close to making up those numbers with "moderate" Republicans. No chance. Right now, I think Biden's best chance is if the GOP struggles with their own turnout (given the fact that their party is a fucking mess too). If the Trump campaign rallies their base and they turnout in similar numbers they did in 2020, Biden is cooked.
I really don't think so, I think it's more that they genuinely don't care about Palestinians dying and would also start to have to grapple with detaching themselves from Israeli lobbying money, really how lobbying money in general is so entrenched in our institutions.
What’s happening right now is gross, but sadly it probably does help him with people who actually vote. Because the average American equates Israel with all Jews and has been inundated with Israel/Jews = good, Palestine/Islam = terrorists from decades of propaganda. The youth (Gen Z/younger millennials) seem to be forming their own opinions to the point where Israel/Palestine is a 50/50 proposition but they’re also the most unreliable voting bloc. So, sadly, this is probably politically helpful, especially since the shitty MSM is running cover for the most part. It’s also hard for the right to do an about-face here and run counter to the administration on this.
The primary avenue right now is forcing Biden's hand. Some are hoping poor primary results will do that. Other than that, BDS of course, and whatever financial support you can give to charities can't hurt either.
Need to see the numbers how you came to this conclusion I bolded Cause the swing voters and older whites, they're an enormous group of potential voters comparitively and why most things the EC bias has faded back towards Obama levels