Official Gardening/Homesteading thread: Our back yards are our grocery stores

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  1. lechnerd

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    Would you guys believe me if I told you I had a bluebonnet bloom this week? I planted the seed last year. Weird stuff
     
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  2. Matt Foley

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    All my tomatoes are suffering from Fusarium Wilt.

    Halp.

    You cannot help. They all gonna die.
     
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  3. lhprop1

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    My tomatoes will get it at the end of the season. By that time, all of the fruit is set and I just trim the effected leaves and dispose of them.

    I've recently been reading about Trichoderma (green mold) being used with great success to kill Fusarium Wilt, early blight, and other fungal diseases. It's worth looking into.
     
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  4. Open Carry

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    My tomato plants have gotten blight every single year. Still turns out a massive crop though.
     
  5. pockets

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    weve had so much rain that ive pulled off 50 branches with blight and the remaining branches have split 200 times, but theyre still cranking out tomatoes.
     
  6. BIGASSTITTIES

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  7. je ne suis pas ici

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    Need to step your table/table cloth game up.... That shit is like random small town church stuff from 1987

    With that said. Your garden is awesome and so is that big ass box of crayons
     
  8. Russellin4885

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    Zucchini plant was killing it. Starting to produce and the biggest I've ever had. Been raining consistently for about a week so haven't been in the garden really. Checked the garden out Sunday and everything is looking great, go back out Tuesday and vine borers have destroyed my zucchini. Amazing how fast those fuckers can work.
     
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  9. BIGASSTITTIES

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    Liquid seven dust spray
     
  10. Wywan Bwowna

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    How long does it typically take a cherry tomato plant to start producing? Brother's GF gave him one of those $1 ones form Target and I expected absolutely nothing. It was about 6 inches tall last week. Come back from vacation yesterday and that thing is like 3 feet tall all of the sudden.

    Do I need to spray with pesticide/insecticide? I've used a little bit of miracle grow. and plan to again this weekend.
     
  11. Russellin4885

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    Just around the base? I've been doing a little research on them but don't not how to stop them.
     
  12. BayouMafia

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    I've done two treatments with that on my brussels sprouts and they still look like they have AIDS. The cauliflower have been eaten a bit too but not nearly as bad. Originally I wanted to stay organic so I bought some ladybugs and within 48 hours they all flew elsewhere so I said fuck it and started spraying. I wonder if the dust would work better than the spray?
    depending on variety you're probably pretty close to getting some buds. My sun golds started producing at around 3 ft tall but the sweet 100's took longer.

    I actually bought a small bottle of this and it helped speed things along at first but now we're getting more than we can eat so I'm not using it anymore. It has worked great on my patty pan squash though.
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  13. lhprop1

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    Is it a bush zucchini or a vine? If it's a vine, you can carefully cut along the length of the vine with a knife until you find the grub and kill the fuck out of it. Then, put a mound of dirt over the spot where you found the grub and sometimes it will put roots down in that spot and grow back. It doesn't always work, though.

    Or you can just replant them. I haven't even planted my squash yet. I plan to do it this weekend now that the threat of borers has passed. I'm in Minnesota and I still have time to get a decent crop. If you're anywhere south of here, you'll have plenty of time for them to grow to maturity and produce if you replant them now.
     
  14. Russellin4885

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    Bush, in North Carolina so plenty of time. I'm just going to replant but fuck those guys.
     
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  15. lhprop1

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    That's probably best. Now you know for next year not to plant until after the borers hatch.
     
  16. Jim Brockmire

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    Had to shit-can my ghost peppers. They didn't take.

    On the bright side, my Hungarian Wax peppers have taken off in the last week, so it'll be time to transplant them.

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  17. blotter

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    I fucked up and didn't really harden off my peppers. Just had them in their pots in my greenhouse for a couple days before transplanting. Some of the milder ones have caught, not thinking I'm going to get many habaneros unless they take off soon. Last year I had baby dick peppers and turned the area into a herb patch when they went nowhere, really don't want to do that again but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Going to be building another greenhouse this summer/fall, the plan is to dig it in at least 4 ft underground, maybe around 24X32 ish. Heat it with a wood stove primarily, baseboards when I'm away for stretches, insulated the sides above ground level. Only should need to buy a few more sheets of poly for the roof, the little plastic that connect the sheets and whatever system I rig up for a blackout curtain. Have plenty of lights, metal sheeting for the outer sides, telephone poles I'm thinking for the side supports and miscellaneous wood to support the sides from caving between the poles. Have a bunch of insulation, power is running right there have electrical supplies.

    I didn't feel right running an indoor grow this past winter, this should be much cheaper, hopefully running the lights only a handful of hours per day. Will allow me to start plants earlier too. I say all that to say if my peppers don't take I'll be growing some in the middle of winter in pots and learning exactly how to grow them in ground next year. Only plants that have ever given me trouble and probably the ones I want to produce the most relative to everything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  18. colonel_forbin

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    Another dumb gardening question because I'm a newb:

    I have everything in planters right now because this is my first time and I didn't want to till up my yard in case everything died. What happens to the plants during the winter? Are they all going to die and then I have to replant everything next spring? I'm in north Alabama and I just have a couple tomato plants and a few pepper plants.
     
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  19. Jim Brockmire

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    Peppers and Tomatoes are actually perennials, but because neither can handle the cold they are treated as annuals.

    If the winter temp doesn't drop beneath 55 or so in your part of Alabama, they may last the winter.
     
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  20. colonel_forbin

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    We can get down into the teens so it looks like annuals they'll be
     
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  21. Jim Brockmire

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    If the plants yield well and appear to stay healthy, save some of the seeds, get a small countertop greenhouse tray for like $8 at HD or Lowe's and you can get an early start on next year's crop over the winter.
     
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  22. billdozer

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    Got our new sheep this weekend. These are already pregnant and should have 3 lambs each in October.

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    Have at least another 9-14 gallons of honey that I should be able to extract in a few weeks too.

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    And a nice brood pattern from one of my new queens

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  23. Hail Southern

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    :fap:
     
  24. je ne suis pas ici

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    did you shear them and keep the wool?
     
  25. billdozer

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    These type of sheep don't have wool, they have hair like a horse. Their meat isn't gamey like a wool sheep would be.
     
  26. je ne suis pas ici

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    so what do they do beyond eat and have babies
     
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  27. bigred77

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    from my gatherings, he also raises chickens & bees, gardens like a mad man, works out every day, competes in strong man competitions, does woodwork, and BBQ's with some regularity

    ohh, you were asking about the sheep, I thought you were asking about Bill
     
  28. billdozer

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    The babies become lamb chops. When the mamas can't produce, they become lambburger.
     
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  29. je ne suis pas ici

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    do you butcher yourself? and poor baby lambs :(
     
  30. bigred77

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    I have a grape vine that I planted about 5 years ago, it grew wildly but never produced any grapes
    it was my first grapevine ever, so after some googling I discovered I should have been pruning it much more, started pruning it last year and again this early spring, but still no grapes

    I cant decide if I should just kill it and start over, or what....opinions?
     
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  31. billdozer

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    No. We'll take them either to the farm auctions or the local meat processing plant so we could sell the meat ourselves. Already have people asking for Christmas lambs. The "lambs" will be 3 months and 100 lbs at the time for slaughter. The average Tyson chicken is 6 weeks old.
     
  32. Arliden

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    If you dont mind me asking what do you get for a lamb? And what sort of steps do you have to take to be able to sell at farm auctions?
     
  33. Arliden

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    Update 2 months later:
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    Garden took off, starting to get a little crowded in there. (For reference the box is 4'x8' )
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    Had some fairly large drainage pipe laying around that I decided to repurpose into a planter. Planted some sweet basil, jumbo jalapeños, and a watermelon.
     
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  34. billdozer

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    It should be around $150-175 for a 60-90 lb lamb. For the auction you pretty much just show up with the stock and drop them off.

    We're planning on also getting some processed at the local meat processing plant and selling the commercial cuts.

    Already have people asking for Christmas lambs too.
     
  35. PJP3

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    That watermelon is going to take over everything. I always try to keep mine contained and it eventually takes over the box its in and any others that are close.
     
  36. lhprop1

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    :crossedarms:
     
  37. je ne suis pas ici

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    can you use plywood as a base for a garden box?
     
  38. bigred77

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    wait, did i get you 2 confused again?
     
  39. lhprop1

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    No, you married us and described our offspring.
     
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  40. Arliden

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    Yea my plan is to try and coax it over the edge of the container and pray. Will probably still get everywhere.
     
  41. bigred77

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    they would be beautiful, I am sure of it
     
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  42. fish

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    I don't know why I go with four tomato plants. We're inundated and I need to harvest more but I'm letting them hang out on the vine a bit. On the bright side, people love being gifted produce.

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    Two of our four, Early Girl on the right, Beefsteak on the left.
     
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  43. BayouMafia

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    why would you need a base?
     
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  44. je ne suis pas ici

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    :notobamanotbad:
     
  45. Jim Brockmire

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    Hot Golden Cayenne's are starting to go... gold.

    Going to leave them on the vine as long as possible. The bigger they get the hotter, the one at top of the pic is already about 4".

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  46. Long Ball Larry

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    How hard is it to make hot sauce? I've got a ton of habaneros.
     
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  47. Jim Brockmire

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    Easy, but time consuming to do it right.

    Take a pound of peppers chopped up with stems removed, some onion, garlic, and salt and use a food processor to make it into a puree. Let it sit out, covered, overnight in a glass jar. Next day add vinegar into the jar and let it sit for another few days. After that, back into food processor and rub it until smooth and you're done.
     
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  48. colonel_forbin

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    What can I do about squirrels and Chipmunks that don't involve a pellet gun?
     
  49. je ne suis pas ici

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    Traps with sunflower seeds etc. My dad catches 50 chipmunks a year. Either lets them out a few miles away or just chunks em in a bucket of water
     
  50. Open Carry

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    A .22
     
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