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  1. Stagger Lee

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    Since leveraged ETFs have a decay factor, would it make sense to just short the leveraged ETF in order to have longer-term upside? For instance, if you thought the Nasdaq was going down, you would short TQQQ (rather than buy SQQQ), and if you thought it was going up, you'd short SQQQ (rather than buy TQQQ). Make sense?

    Wouldn't this give you the same short-term effect and better odds on the longer term?
     
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  2. blind dog

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    have sold & bought spy, sso, upro, spxl and only had the wash sale rule come into play with identical etfs at schwab. no clue if they will keep reporting that way tho
     
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  3. texasraider

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  4. Fusiontegra

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  5. jrmy

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    Lock those in while you can IMO
     
  6. Houndster

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    Is anyone else still in SCO and when are you planning on getting out?
     
  7. texasraider

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    sold some at $0.75 ... will wait til tomorrow to see what the market does. Selfishly hoping for red
     
  8. Stagger Lee

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    I would suggest putting a stop loss in and letting it run. Oil is a falling knife right now.
     
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  9. pacey

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    Sold it yesterday when the DMI turned negative on the daily at 25.24ish.
     
  10. Fusiontegra

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    That's a long buy, so I'm just waiting on it
     
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  11. pacey

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    Too much uncertainty with the Oil right now to not be jumping in and out.
     
  12. Stagger Lee

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    SCO is short. You're thinking of UCO
     
  13. Fusiontegra

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    If it were an option, I'd be getting out now while I'm just above green on it. But on a long-term inverse, I'm perfectly fine with just letting it sit and hoping it takes a big spike.

    It'll happen eventually.
     
  14. Baseballman86

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    I also just moved to about 70% cash. All I have left are a few small stonk holdings and some puts that are highly likely to expire worthless. A dip tomorrow and Thursday would be great.
     
  15. texasraider

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    sold the RCL puts up 35%
    Still have 60% of the CCL puts and all of the TSLA puts
     
  16. pacey

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    It could easily rally with
    The SCO could be a long for a month or so if Russia and Saudi keep fighting and we stay locked up for another few months. In this market i feel like anything over the weekend is "long". There is no where left to store the stuff come 5/15 from what i have heard. No one is buying and reserves are going to full. Price is at what 25 from 20 because there may be a meeting. Its not like demand is up driving that 25% increase from the low. I am sure there are other drivers but SCO at a multiple could be a winning play. I just did not want to be in it overnight. I am in some UCO as a bet the meeting does happen and if it does its a win. If it doesn't, eventually that will go back up in the long run.
     
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  17. Fusiontegra

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    Have a 50% sell at 1.5 on CCL
    I'll hold the rest for more blood, hopefully.
     
  18. Stagger Lee

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    I'm going to jump on UCO as soon as it crosses the SMA on the minute chart. It's teasing it right now.
     
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  19. pacey

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    I did buy DXD and SPXS when the market hit 23,500 and and hit 23,200. Only a few grand and depending on tomorrow's open I will get out or put more in. Come on dip.
     
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  20. billdozer

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    Up 6% in SPXS today. Trying to decide if I should sell, sell half, or just hold over.
     
  21. pacey

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    are we going to end red today?
     
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  22. pacey

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    when we broke 23,000 today I think that was the trigger. We shall see but I don't think we see 23,000 again for a little bit.
     
  23. Stagger Lee

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    And it crossed. Here we go ...
     
  24. pacey

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    i jinxed it. 22900. stay away from the light
     
  25. Pharoh

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    Is this going to be the fall to 18? Or is there expected to be more up and down before we get there?

    I was reading something recently that said to expect a pretty quick, drastic drop down.
     
  26. pacey

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    It is anyone guess. But we have lost 700 today.
     
  27. Stagger Lee

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    UCO just crossed the 2 min SMA. Hoping for a nice little run prior to bell. Definitely not holding this shit overnight.
     
  28. Fusiontegra

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    Or we rally...
     
  29. pacey

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    Or we don't.... Red Red Red come on red.
     
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  30. texasraider

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    Finished in the red lol
     
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  31. southside

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    Tomorrow there will be blood
     
  32. dukebuckeye

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    Right at the bell. Hollywood ending.
     
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  33. southside

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    President Pump, you could have avoided this
     
  34. Lyrtch

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    talked to my parents cause my mom just retired

    "we're low 6 figures liquid in savings"
     
  35. texasraider

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    Man I had luck on my side today. Sold everything at damn near their highs and bought puts right after
     
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  36. Lyrtch

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    "how much should we invest"

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  37. Bo Pelinis

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    My dad lost a shit ton of his retirement in 08/09 and made a most/all back over the ensuing 7-8 years. Told him to get that shit in something safe around 2015/2016 and he did. Then missed out on all the growth the last few years which made me feel bad. I don't feel so bad right now.
     
  38. Stagger Lee

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    Is the DMI Oscillator known as anything else? I can't find it in my screener
     
  39. Lyrtch

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    i've pointed my parents to wealthfront type outlets as they gradually increase being conservative over time based on your age/goals/etc and are hands free

    they got shelled in '08 AND this time because they largely just didn't pay attention
     
  40. pacey

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  41. pacey

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    I use this to sell as soon as something goes negative when i am trading.
     
  42. Fusiontegra

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    Got greedy and bought more puts of CCL on of the tiny bumps before the bell today.
     
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  43. billdozer

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    Had put a trailing stop on SPXS that just barely hit before it surged back. Now I wish I hadn't.
     
  44. Goose

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    I understand calls now after following trends the last two days someone teach me puts
     
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  45. Fusiontegra

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  46. Goose

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    This truly is some wild shit
     
  47. dukebuckeye

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    This is amazingly accurate.
     
  48. texasraider

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    Calls = Pass line
    Puts= don’t pass line