So what are Republicans looking to get to help the people in this country? Feel like everything I see is what Dems are trying to get.
you live somewhere that you can get tested 3 times? Unless you have been in a hospital, you aren’t getting 3 tests in Florida. Even if you do, you have to wait 10-14 days for each test result. People aren’t quarantining themselves for 45+ days waiting for a second negative result.
Does anybody know if there is any climate research done to explore how slowly/quickly adverse affects of pollution can be undone? If not, this might be an amazing opportunity. It would be quite an interesting silver lining that scientists can discover (and demonstrate to the masses) how quickly the earth (or at least certain elements: atmosphere, air quality, etc.) can regenerate itself, if that’s what the data shows. We’re obviously not going to be shutting down like this with any regularity, but maybe reasonable, targeted measures can be identified and—probably more importantly—people may be more willing to embrace them if a tangible benefit can be demonstrated.
Republicans are going to ask for far less and money just for corporations. This is smart. Ask for big seeping change and make them try to play to the middle.
“Assumes full social distancing through the end of May 2020” “The question of whether there will be a second wave of the epidemic will depend on what we do to avoid reintroducing COVID-19 into the population. By the end of the first wave of the epidemic, a substantial proportion of the population of the United States and EEA countries are likely to still be susceptible to the disease and thus measures to avoid a second wave of the pandemic prior to vaccine availability will be necessary.”
UWs projections should be thrown out the window. They assume 100% of people are rational for months on end and dont factor in a possible second wave. Meanwhile we have Florida and Georgia and a dozen other states.
We had 755 deaths a week ago. We just had 1906 yesterday. I want to believe the optimistic projections but I'd like to actually see a downward trend.
Weve had 3-4 weeks of under reporting on the weekends with a Monday/Tuesday bump and people are still surprised.
So my friend works at an army base where I live (she's an instructor) and there is an anonymous FB group, so she sent me screenshots of a message that the soldiers are too afraid to make this stuff known. Bases aren't required to report numbers to the CDC. There is allegedly only one case so the base so far. They just got new orders not to leave town, not have any visitors over, only leave your house for work and if it is necessary and to always wear a mask on base.
I tend to agree with this and it makes sense why NY is so bad but it doesn’t really explain how many of Europe’s cities haven’t been hit harder. Even London, with a response worse than ours, doesn’t seem as hard hit as NY. Germany is the only European state that did a good job testing right away. Europeans also rely on public transportation far more than Americans as a whole. While I am as pro public transportation as anyone, this is a rare time when mostly everyone having a car is a good thing.
this is beyond sad. I understand why trump would want to keep covid-19 numbers down in a re-election year but the best way to keep it down is to actually be honest and treat people with dignity and respect. I’d have to imagine that there are plenty of people in the military playing this game to keep numbers down and putting lives at risk. People who join the military agree to put their lives on the line when necessary to protect our freedoms. Not to protect polling numbers or lie to the American people.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the uproar over this. Seems like her writers wanted to work in a lame gay joke via a facetious comment about jail. Did a quick Google, and she started off praising workers on the front line before moving on to toilet paper jokes and this one
The UW projections are very relevant and should be used to show what we *can* accomplish. There's no reason to throw them out. They should be propped up as the incentive and juxtaposed with other scenarios.
Ellen is a comedian. I think it’s okay to sometimes be humorous about situations like this... helps us get through the day.
Deaths are a lagging indicator. We are seeing positive results from the measures enacted both here and abroad, and while the UW model is towards the best-case scenario range, it should absolutely be seen as reinforcement for the utility of social distancing measures.
this is what people are struggling to realize. Right now, the curve doesn’t mean shit. We aren’t testing. The Banks was talking about 2nd and 3rd tests having to be negative. People can’t get a first test in most places still. People will leave their houses/quarantine after 3-7 days of no fever. They will think the beat it. Like ANTWONE friend they will still be positive. Even if we social distance the curve significantly down before trump panics about the economy and opens shit back up (unlikely) the second wave could come from recovered people who haven’t fully recovered.
Basing projections on people doing the right thing leads to dangerous circular logic. It gives people too stupid to do the right thing the idea that their stupidity doesn't matter so they will keep going out and acting like its not a big deal because projections are lowered. People who aren't isolating aren't looking at the numbers but when they see the projections lowered it raises a false sense of security.
social distancing is definitely working and people staying at home has really helped to curb the growth of the virus but we have no idea how many people have this. We can certainly discuss different models and which are better/worse but until everyone who has symptoms can be tested, the models are all highly flawed and likely not reflective of the actual situation.
The problem we still have is testing though and Idk if we can 100% trust our reported deaths and new cases.
Yeah, and of course the big risk is spiking the football and declaring victory when there is still widespread transmission. There doesn’t have to be a significant second wave, but it will take considerable willpower that I’m fairly confident our nation (among others) doesn’t have.
I've also wondered if we'll get hit worse in the fall if there's too much celebration over the first wave. Idk if we can pull these measures off a second time like you said.
Like just a couple of months ago she was pounding around with George W Bush. She's not exactly someone I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to just because she is funny on a daytime TV show.
IMO problem is folks see it and don’t look at what it actually is, and treat it as the curve we’re actually working with
Farmers? Hmm. Re deaths there was just an article yesterday or the day prior about how many people in New York are dying at home, and that’s likely undercounting the number of covid deaths.
its wild to see someone recite the trumpian talking points verbatim who isn't a paid political operative
Our death tallies are no where near accurate. While I'd like to optimistically think we're curbing this thing nationwide because we're no where near the estimate of 158k dead by Easter, we are at a mere fraction of that number and it mathematically doesn't make sense. We already know (very small sample size but still) about the Kentucky coroner doing everything they could to avoid listing cause of death as COVID-19 complications (upper respiratory infection, undetermined, organ failure, etc.). I don't think we're cooking the numbers nearly as much as China, but there's just no fucking way we haven't eclipsed 13,000 deaths with 400,000 cases. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a 3% mortality rate is sort of out of the question when you consider that we're one of the most unhealthy populations on the planet. I have to think we're at least 5 times as many deaths as being reported right now.