Bad Police Thread - where calling the police is a gamble

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  1. Mister Me Too

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    So you’re still trying to compare someone calling you a Tio Tomas because of your job to someone assuming blacks are not smart enough to know who to vote for?
     
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  2. Daniel Ocean

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    I don’t have to. Nor do I think it’s strange or not understandable why people would call you what they do. CBP preys on vulnerable immigrants. If you can’t see why some would hate you for that I don’t know what to say to you.
     
  3. DeToxRox

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  4. DeToxRox

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    Eh don’t worry though, Noles Twitter has it all figured out

     
  5. CaneKnight

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    I love how "Hey please stop murdering us for no reason" is treated as some kind of sinister agenda by racists
     
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    I won’t pretend to have ever heard of Bubba Wallace prior to the last few weeks, but he is one impressive guy.
     
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  7. Mister Me Too

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    All Lives Matter Nole

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  8. mc415

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    thats a stupid statement, how many Hispanics are crossing the Canadian border compared to the southern border? What a terrible statement.......and yes if several million Hispanics were crossing into the US via Canada they would be targeted 100000000% .......how does one enter the US via an airport without the proper paperwork and visas ? Like I could fly into the USA without any visa if I’m from Honduras and get thru?
     
  9. You

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    I was speaking to the presumption that something must be intrinsically wrong with a Hispanic working in CBP for the very response you had, because “what kind of Hispanic works for an organization that targets Hispanics?” And then when any sort of response is formulated,
    ...this is what is said. Because someone focuses on one angle of an aspect of something as opposed to attempting to take a look at as much of the information as possible.

    And by the way, Daniel Ocean , it was you who called me Tio Tomas. A POS coconut Tio Tomas, actually. Which was actually a bit humorous I suppose.
     
  10. dblplay1212

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    He comes across as a great guy. Talented driver too, just in a shit car. Really hope one of the top teams give him a ride next year.
     
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  11. Daniel Ocean

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    I don’t remember that but it does sound like something I’d call a coconut that works for CBP. Maybe your employer does more than target vulnerable immigrants but it does that and that is why you’re a Tio Tomas. A guy can fuck 1000 women but once he fucks one goat he will forever be a goat fucker.
     
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  12. You

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    My point is, are the Canadians crossing the northern border being targeted by CBP when they cross? What if I said that 95+ percent of arrests at ports of entry along the southern border were of Hispanic origin? I suppose that’s targeting? Overall, CBP does its best to ensure that people coming into the US have the paperwork authorizing their travel and/or stay, and they also attempt to prevent the flow of drugs from entering. To think that CBP targets Hispanics or vulnerable immigrants is sliiiightly asinine.
     
  13. VaxRule

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  14. Lyrtch

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    just following orders
     
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    Ya'll dropped the ball not highlighting all of the A+ interneterry re: statue hanging


     
  16. You

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    A lot of travelers along both borders of the US. A lot of employees within CBP. I agree wholeheartedly with the ACLU tweet at the end stating that speaking Spanish is not a reason for being detained. That agent should probably have some more training in professionalism as well as understanding the differences between officers at ports of entry and agents at checkpoints, and the authorizations each have.

    I was never trained to target Hispanics for any crimes. We were taught trends, certain techniques for interviewing, and how to recognize the indicators of concealment on people and vehicles. That agent in that article was clearly wrong.
     
  17. VaxRule

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    Profiling is never a formal part of training, it’s learned on the job as a part of the culture. It’s the “how my job is actually done” part of learning your job. In most jobs, that phase is just learning office politics. In law enforcement, it’s racial profiling.
     
  18. Shawn Hunter

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    Those garages aren’t open to the public so it was very likely an inside job, either someone from NASCAR, another team, or someone from the track.
     
  19. dblplay1212

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    Might be different now with Covid but they are normally very much open to the public. Thousands of people in the garages on race days. Sponsors have tons of passes to give out.
     
  20. Shawn Hunter

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    It wasn’t open at the time according to what I have read from people who know a lot more about that sport than I do, which is next to nothing.
     
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  21. You

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    How would that work on the southern border where most people crossing are Hispanic? Profile the majority of daily travelers along the southern border? That makes zero sense, and honestly, I would imagine most people in charge wouldn’t stand by it. Since the majority of people in CBP are Hispanic, I suppose they are all Tio Tomas’s?
     
  22. Daniel Ocean

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  23. You

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    That’s actually pretty funny. I do like that you are able to put things in a humorous light. I have never experienced an instance in which CBP has targeted vulnerable immigrants, and I was not taught to do so at the border through my training. But you are free to think of me as you wish, but don’t presume to know things from your skewed vantage point
     
  24. Daniel Ocean

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    I don’t know you personally irl. I know you on here and what I judge is who I know from what you write and share Take that FWIW. I’ve read enough about CBP to have what I think is an educated opinion. I feel a certain way about them and feel a certain way about LatinX people who work for them. On top of that you called yourself “Hispanic” which adds to the Tio Tomas vibe you give off. Now let’s finish the trifecta, you’re a republican huh.
     
  25. NCHusker

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    You is very determined to believe that he's more than a cog in the oppression machine
     
  26. You

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    ‘Hispanic’ is the most appropriate term, is it not (“no, that’s Tio Tomas”)?

    It’s interesting how you say you’ve read enough about CBP to have what you think is an educated opinion, but you also state “Maybe your employer does more than target vulnerable immigrants but...”.

    Also, I would gather that most people here don’t agree with your POS coconut Tio Tomas comment.

    You can feel a certain way about CBP and feel a certain way about Hispanics that work for CBP, but your posting doesn’t really speak to your knowledge on the topic, just your ability to spout things you’ve read in some one-sided articles and seen in the media cycle.
     
  27. You

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    I currently don’t work for CBP. I’m attempting to have reasonable conversations with people.
     
  28. Daniel Ocean

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    you seem to have difficulty with abstract thought. It seems like you take everything too literal. I’ve found that people who refer to themselves as “Hispanic” believe one way and those that call themselves Latino/a now LatinX believe differently. I tend to agree more with the LatinX people because they generally are more liberal more progressive whereas “Hispanics” are more like what you appear to be.

    What I meant by “maybe your employer does more ...” is not that I don’t think or know that CBP does a multitude of things but that they do what I said they do and thus fuck all the other shit.

    I don’t frankly care if anyone else thinks you’re pos coconut. You worked for a fucked up organization who treats immigrants as less than human. You identify as “Hispanic” (I have enough experience with this term and those that ID with to have a good understanding) and like a said you’re probably a republican.

    You’re the type of LatinX individual who probably gets offended at being called that. You probably talked about doing it (immigration) the right way. You undoubtedly call undocumented immigrants “illegal aliens”. I stick to my assessment you’re a coconut. You’re a tio tomas.

    That’s my opinion of you from what I have learned of you on here.
     
  29. Bruce Wayne

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    No. Whomst was it
     
  30. Redav

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    Was that Blackterno?
     
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  32. VaxRule

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    You don’t see how working in a job where the overwhelming majority of your stops/investigations are Hispanic could lead to someone profiling Hispanics?
     
  33. Andy Reocho

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    Please show me the stats of Canadians that CBP has detained You

    I need to alert dear leader ASAP
     
  34. Andy Reocho

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    welfare queen*
     
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  35. Beeds07

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    I blocked so many of them but was on disability and hated social programs, right?
     
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  36. Andy Reocho

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    That the one. But the big caveat, he hated OTHER people using the social programs.
     
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  37. dblplay1212

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    Yes. Poor whites on "disability" look down on people on welfare and other programs. Look up the disability stats across the country. Waaaaaay high in red states. But they spin that there's is legit and people in other programs are just lazy.
     
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  38. Beeds07

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    This came up during McConnells blue welfare state comment. 9 of the top 11 social program states are red, even worse if you do it by capita.
     
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  39. HuskerInMiami

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    Can you send a graph/photo of this? I want to share with my MAGA dad.
     
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  40. Beeds07

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  41. You

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    Things aren’t as simple as branding someone a republican or Democrat. I’ve seen you and people on the left as well as people on the right place people in a category and keep them there. It’s easier for you.

    I actually use the term EWI, which is entry without inspection (when referring to someone’s manner of entry), and the term inadmissible. I don’t know that I’ve ever used the term illegal aliens, but feel free to search my post history and correct me if you like.

    If people want to call me LatinX, cisgender, Hispanic, I don’t mind. It’s not as though that’s my name and that’s what they would call me anyway. They’d call me by my first or last name, or when they forget my name they can say “hey...man”.

    I’m glad that you and others have been willing to have conversations with me, I just tend to think that the presumption that I am what you know every other person you disagree with is is an attempt to make an inaccurate categorization.
     
  42. You

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    Sir I do think you are trying to offend my delicate sensibilities. Along the border with Mexico most everything is Hispanic. In the town that I worked with CBP there was probably a 90+ percent Hispanic population. Most jobs were done by Hispanics. Most of the police department and the port of entry. Most crimes were committed by Hispanics. Most of the students in college and most of the nurses were Hispanic.

    The presumption that those in CBP are unable to understand the correlation between crimes committed and population on the southern border is a bit out there. Maybe some officers are like that, I’m sure there are, but I’ve never had to deal with them past the probationary period.
     
  43. joe-

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    so just the officers in leadership positions then


    keep going you’re about to figure it out
     
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  44. You

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    I don’t know if it will be current to this year, but this is a repository for the statistics:

     
  45. Andy Reocho

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    So you're not willing to provide any actual support that the CBP actually takes the Canadian border seriously? Back up your statements
     
  46. You

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    Out of about 45 supervisors, 10 chiefs, 5 assistant port directors and 2 port directors, at two ports of entry that I worked at, a handful of supervisors were not Hispanic, 1 chief was not Hispanic, and that’s it.

    Or were you referring to DC when the goal post was moved?
     
  47. You

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    Where did I assert that again? I would hope that they did considering their job, but I don’t have the statistics to counter your “gotcha” attempt.
     
  48. Andy Reocho

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    It's not a gotcha when it's fact that the CBP cares far more about stopping POC from crossing the border compared to the vastly large white populous to the North.

    The American/Canadian border is the longest unprotected border in the world, and surprisingly Dear Leader hasn't done anything to protect that border. Weird.
     
  49. NCHusker

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    Working for border patrol is immoral full stop. Borders are arbitrary bullshit and the way we treat human beings who cross them is disgusting. There is no defending CBP