Derek Chauvin Trial: Lake of Fire for ‘em

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  1. GrizzliesDrew

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    For me, it depends. Use it with seafood more than anything else
     
  2. wes tegg

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    Totally agree with you on overdoing it and jury selection. And, I think the pro bono special prosecutor did way too much in the opening. He's trying the case like a corporate defense lawyer (which he is) and cooled the jury down when he had the chance to come out from the gate with an outrageous video and get them fired up. He could have cut his opening down to ten minutes and had it be ten times more effective.
     
  3. Illinihockey

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    theyll argue that isn’t what he died from, they’ll argue he was following police procedure, they’ll argue he had no intent
     
  4. Daniel Ocean

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    they are arguing the drugs in his system killed him not the cop he begged not to kill him who was kneeling on his neck.
     
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  5. Illinihockey

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    most guys that are on the verge of dying from fentanyl need to be restrained by 4 police officers and help on the ground...
     
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  6. dblplay1212

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    Racists jurors or jurors that idolize cops and side with them in all instances. We've glorified cops for decades and it's led to them knowing they are above the law in most cases.
     
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  7. racer

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    That first set of questions seemed rough.
     
  8. Beeds07

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    If police procedure is keeping your knee on someone’s neck for ten minutes, then maybe they need to change their fucking training.
     
  9. racer

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    Narrator: it isn’t
     
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  10. slogan119

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    I think jury composition in this case is encouraging
     
  11. EdmondDantes

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    I thought this guy had been convicted months ago
     
  12. IowaHuskerFan3

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    I hope this dude receives the finest treatment from his fellow inmates. % that he actually gets convicted?
     
  13. DetroitNole

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    With a need for unanimous jury it just takes one idiot. So hung jury wouldn't shock me in a case like this.
     
  14. DDB

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    I think that’s all the defense is playing for.
     
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  16. racer

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    The defense attorney looks like the dude said that to his mother.
     
  17. Tommy Jefferson

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    The defense is really hinging on their ability to convince the jury that the bystanders were more of an angry mob than concerned citizens. I wish this witness would have been able to keep his composure better. Fortunately, the video of the scene pretty clearly paints a better picture.
     
  18. DollarBillHokie

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    What else was he supposed to say in a scenario where the cops were murdering a guy out in the open for 8 minutes?
     
  19. racer

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    I really wanted a witness to respond to a yelling/angry mob question with “let me make sure I understand your question. What you’re saying is that it’s ok to kill someone as long as someone else is yelling at you from across the street.’ correct?”
     
  20. Illinihockey

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    theyre going to try to make it seem like the officers were facing an uncooperative suspect and a hostile crown so they laid on he because they were in fear
     
  21. jorge

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    not really sure how a riled up crowd excuses kneeling on someones windpipe for 8 minutes when you have someone holding down each limb
     
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  22. wes tegg

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    I think the angry mob thing fails because neither Chauvin nor Thao called for backup to help with the crowd. But, the defense doesn’t have to prove anything; they’re just trying to sow doubt,
     
  23. Simon Templar

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    I think we are around the same age and with similar backgrounds from what I’ve been able to infer. I don’t think we’ve glorified cops at all. I was raised to respect the badge but people around here have always felt that like 85% of cops are absolute shit tips.
     
  24. GrizzliesDrew

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    I think he’s mainly talking about media. Movies, TV, etc
     
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    I remember my time in a federal jury thinking how crazy the tension was between the witnesses and defense attorney. Can’t imagine the level of that in this case.
     
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  26. Simon Templar

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    On that’s fair then
     
  27. The Hotch

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    They’re important but rarely, if ever, the most important part of a trial.
     
  28. dblplay1212

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    I'm talking about the media. Police are probably the most common TV show and they are always the good guys. Andy Griffith, Cops, Law and Order, Hill Street Blues, etc. That's how most suburban people viewed cops.
     
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  29. (Z)

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    Yeah wes tegg, have you ever even tried a case before? :laugh:
     
  30. Illinihockey

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    Even Live PD now where its basically just cops pulling people over for minor traffic infractions then searching their car and arresting people for negligible amounts of weed
     
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  31. dblplay1212

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    We used to watch Chicago PD. Looking back it's incredibly fucked up. They have a cage in the basement where they beat info out of people. They steal money from drug dealers and then use it for good causes. And they are never wrong. Never arrest, beat, or steal from the wrong guy.
     
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  32. Illinihockey

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    The actual Chicago PD did this

    https://theappeal.org/the-lab/explainers/chicago-police-torture-explained/
     
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    That was the entire premise behind Cops except they were doing it to almost exclusively black people, viewers complained, now they only do it white people.
     
  34. DUCKMOUTH

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    I just can’t think how bad the backlash and potential for more violence will be if he gets off.

    Sad situation that may end up with more violence.
     
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    now watch The Shield
     
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  36. Josey Wales

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    Imagine a half dozen shows on tv about good nature drug dealers portraying even their worst actions in some justifiable way.

    Would probably impact peoples POV after a few decades.
     
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    Yeah praying beyond hope that justice is served or it will be hellish.
     
  38. Illinihockey

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    Oz was pretty great though
     
  39. dblplay1212

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    I can't think of a topic that's produced more TV shows than cops. That's insane. And yea they've definitely impacted a lot of opinions on cops. White people in the burbs see Andy Griffith while they are treated well by cops so assume that's how it is for everyone. Mean POC are being abused for decades and white suburban folks think they are lying. Like all the gangster rap from the late 80s. It was dismissed and some of it banned. Fast forward to now and cell phone camera has shown us for a decade that everything they were talking about was real.
     
  40. slogan119

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    There’s a 5 or 7 ep cast called “Running from COPS” that discusses how LivePD and COPS are exceedingly racist
     
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    Great podcast, definitely recommend it
     
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  42. Doc Louis

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    FIFY
     
  43. Lyrtch

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    it's called copaganda

    similar to how the military pays sports teams and movie/tv studios to do propaganda for them. top gun being maybe the most famous example.
     
  44. CUtigers86

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    That’s because cops are responsible for enforcing laws and protecting citizens from people like thieves, murderers, arsonists, pedophiles, women beaters, and other criminals who fall in to the “bad guy” category, dbl. They are who people call when their safety and well being is infringed upon.

    Sometimes cops do good things believe it or not - not just on tv.
     
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    cops are responsible for protecting capital and burning fossil fuel while they idle in empty parking lots for hours
     
  46. jorge

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    i'm sure they all like you more now too
     
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    dmx would pay a million dollars for the privilege of sucking a cop's weiner
     
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  48. Illinihockey

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    Top Gun was awesome. So was Rambo except where he fights with Al-Qaeda, that wasn't so good.
     
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  49. dblplay1212

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    They do a lot of fucked up stuff, too. Let's make a show that shows them killing unarmed POC every week. Play the video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd's neck every single Wednesday at 8pm on every network for 50 years. Maybe mix in some Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Freddy Gray, Elijah McClain, Breonna Taylor, Philando Castile, and Sandra Bland too. If we're going to show the good side, show the bad side, too. It's not always the good guy getting the bad guys. Sometimes it cops killing innocent people too. Let's show that too so people don't grow up with a romanticized view of cops that's not reality.