United Airlines Still Doing United Airlines Things

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  1. southlick

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  2. The Blackfish

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  3. Where Eagles Dare

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    I mean it sucks for these people, but I'm not sure this is a massive airline issue or failure like we had this summer canceling massive amounts of flights daily.

    We had a catastrophic weather event
     
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  4. DuffandMuff

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    Definitely seems like southwest is handling it the worst





     
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  5. DaveGrohl

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    The key here is looking at other airlines. They have issues, sure, but Southwest is on another level of fucked up right now.

    16 hours at an airport after multiple days of canceled flights and I still managed not to threaten anyone. I was pretty proud of that. Sleeping most of Christmas Day kind of sucked though.
     
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  6. DaveGrohl

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    Also, the counter lines got so depressing with them just saying "fuck it" and walking off after a few hours, leaving dozens of people in line. Our eventual solution was to go to an unstaffed counter with only two passengers waiting there until an employee showed up. That eventually worked.
     
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  7. DuffandMuff

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  8. DaveGrohl

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    Lot of words to say nothing here:

     
  9. DaveGrohl

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    Also, on Saturday night/early Sunday morning the Southwest app “crashed” during the middle of all the madness - not just rebooking functionality but also flight status and schedule. But then my gf used Express VPN and set her location as UK and was able to access everything. This makes me think they shut off access in the US because they couldn’t handle the bandwidth. They are just fucked in every aspect. I usually fly with them just because upgrading to A1-15 is so cheap and I can grab a window exit row seat, but I’m done now.
     
  10. BayouMafia

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    Most airlines do that already, but not a lot of capacity on other airlines during holiday travel
     
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  11. Marty Kaan

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    heads are def going to roll in IT
     
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  12. southlick

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  13. Where Eagles Dare

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    The weather should be mostly over, no??
     
  14. Where Eagles Dare

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    SW is a massive buyer of consultants and demand they all fly SW. It's annoying. If you fly out of DFW you have to sneak in and out
     
  15. COVIDiskilingme79

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    Yeah, I was going to say how many seats does he think are open on Christmas week? My airline is slammed.
     
  16. bwi2

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    likely still have crew and planes all in the wrong place, and they can’t just work a double to sort it out
     
  17. southlick

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  18. The Banks

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    1. That can't be real

    2. Southwest has always been awful, always baffled by their fan boys.

    3. This weather pattern was predicted over a week ahead of time, not being prepared is inexcusable.
     
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  19. clemsonvianj

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    was just in the baggage line for 3 hours. some people still don't have bags/strollers/car seats after flying 4-5 days ago.

    huge management and systems issues with SW.
     
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    Would be stunned if that was real
     
  21. southlick

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    Some dude on Bol who's says he works for a different airline said some SW friends of his sent it.
     
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  22. racer

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    We don’t have enough workers!
    What are we going to do?
    Fire more of them!
     
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  23. racer

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    https://kdvr.com/news/local/southwest-airlines-declares-a-state-of-operational-emergency-at-den/amp/

    FOX31 reached out to the airline to get clarification on why this declaration was made.

    “The operational emergency you’re referencing are actually emergency sick procedures …when that occurs, it puts parameters in place—like requiring a doctor’s note when an Employee returns to work if they call in sick—so that we can ensure Reliability for our Customers by having the necessary amount of available, working staff,” the Southwest Airlines PR Team told FOX31.
     
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  24. Marty Kaan

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    Obvious answer is to cut the workforce and pto, load them up with hours, and lobby the government to enforce the poor working compensation when the labor force revolts.
     
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  25. GoodForAnother

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    fly adult airlines and you won’t have this problem. swa is ass
     
  26. COVIDiskilingme79

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    I used to fly Southwest here and there and it never bothered me. I now work for another airline and hadn't flown with southwest for years. Took a flight on Southwest over the summer and Jesus Christ it was a mess. It felt like a SLIGHT step up from Spirit.
     
  27. GoodForAnother

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    their boarding system infuriates me and their routing system leads to horrible cascading delays. plus no upgrades, no reserved seats, no intl redemptions with miles, and shittier planes (no power outlets, TVs, shitty WiFi, etc)
     
  28. Gaknight

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    Imagine being the one Delta gate at Love field right now watching the world burn and getting on your flight
     
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  29. afb

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  30. steamengine

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    As much as I hate attributing success to one person once herb died this airline stood no chance.
     
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  31. Handcuffed

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    what's the reason for the hard reset? and why does southwest need to do it but other airlines don't?

    edit - found an unsourced reddit post that sort of explains why this one airline is fucked up:

     
  32. Goose

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    Have to fly this bogus airline in march for a bachelor party.

    Obviously it’s never this bad, but I feel like I read about SW having a “system” issue every 6-8 months or so. Am I right about that?
     
  33. theregionsitter

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    It feels like the only time I've flown SWA over the last 10 years has been for Bachelor parties because of the destinations from Columbus (Nashville, Austin, Phoenix, etc), I'd rather fly direct than connect so SWA it is. However as I've gotten older, the SWA schtick has really gotten old to me, I much prefer transparency and choose Delta.
     
  34. buckwild

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    We pretty much fly exclusively with SWA out of CMH as our credit cards are thru them and it's been very easy to rack up free flights...plus, all of the free bags with little kids add up. In the past year we've flown direct to Orlando (think at the time this was the only direct flight from CMH to Orlando), Phoenix, Baltimore and Nashville. We did have a flight with a stop to Savannah. It's been a great airline for us out of CMH, but this situation they have put themselves in does seem terrible.
     
  35. DuffandMuff

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    Can I interest you in Transfarency?

    https://www.southwest.com/html/air/...ich Customers are,change fees, or hidden fees.
     
  36. Goose

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    We’re headed to New Orleans so no directs unfortunately except for allegiant I think.

    Delta and the others were all over a grand. SW was $450. Unfortunate situation and am accepting prayers
     
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    CMH is getting a $6 Billion renovation and expansion soon, things will improve including state subsidized directs to Europe. Goose buckwild

    not announced yet but DeWine and Ginther have been working on it for years now, waiting for the Feds to announce an infrastructure award (its coming, the state is going to match with ARPA dollars)
     
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  38. Sportfan

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    Welp SW has grandfathered me into A list the last two years, guessing a third will happen. I’ve flown 100’s of SW flights the last 10 years for work. I can count on one hand the issues I’ve had. Flown ~20 American and have had three major problems. Living really close to Love Field helps as well.

    My territory for work has changed and now American makes a lot more sense. Need to bite the bullet and start racking up status there, especially if A list goes away.
     
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  40. Goose

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    I live in Cincinnati, IMO

    Wish our airport was in Ohio so we had more control over it. Kentucky is cheap
     
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  41. Artoo

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    Having their entire crew scheduling system go dead is bad.

    Having such an antiquated system that it requires EVERY crew member to directly call in and (I assume) verify their availability is fucking insane. I don't under what kind of old-ass technology they might be running that they don't have a data backup or anything like that. Cheap-ass motherfuckers
     
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  42. Artoo

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    So you don't even have your own airport.
     
  43. Goose

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    The upside is we don't shit where we eat and have all of nonsense that comes with an airport in our neighborhoods

    We throw it on the Kentucky side where the poors live
     
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  44. Artoo

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    But think of all that sweet, sweet, uh.... revenue? you guys are missing out on?
     
  45. Mix

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    I really want to know the why for this mess. I don't understand how any airline could be doing so much worse than others during the same weather.
     
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  46. Goose

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    As long as Kentucky doesn't lose us more flights than they already have, I don't think we'll try and take it over
     
  47. Where Eagles Dare

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    Lol all you poors debating commercial carriers.

    I only fly private
     
  48. Where Eagles Dare

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    Has their specific model fucked everything up and impossible to reset??