Millennials: Natural born killers

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  1. TC

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    What if you think of college as a life school instead of a job school
     
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  2. MA

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    It isn't currently job training or it shouldn't be job training?
     
  3. wes tegg

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    Neither. It isn’t now, and it shouldn’t be.
     
  4. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Obviously the biggest problem is that our parents told us that it basically was and everyone started to treat it like such.
     
  5. Where Eagles Dare

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    All of those are capitalistic too
     
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  6. Where Eagles Dare

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    Fucking boomers
     
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  7. HuskerInMiami

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    I'm not arguing with anyone that a business degree is a joke. I'm on a hiring committee, and everyone other than me is like, "OOOOO they have a business degree" they must know how to do finance/accounting/run our business. It's infuriating. When we're hiring people, I look for someone who "cares". Cares about the work they do and also about the people around them. I can train them to do anything if they care and want to learn.
     
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  8. Redav

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    I agree that it shouldn't be but idk that it isn't
     
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  9. Redav

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    Definitely sports so people can focus their unfulfilledness (is that a word) into reflected glory of a sports team.
     
  10. Bo Pelinis

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    It definitely is. College hasn’t been solely for the sake of education in decades and it’s myopic to pretend otherwise
     
  11. Bo Pelinis

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    “Go to college to get a good job” has been the message from an entire generation of boomer parents. It’s rarely been “go to college to make a well rounded educated person.”

    That’s what it should be but in practice? That’s the extreme minority. The funny thing is the latter does also end up happening which upsets them even if most kids go in solely with the purpose of “getting a good job”
     
  12. Redav

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    Really just look at the difference in the average career earnings of a college educated person vs a non college educated.
     
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  13. Where Eagles Dare

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    Are we talking about generic business administration degrees? I'd hope for a finance or accounting role, when hiring someone with a finance/acct degree out of college they do know some methodologies, certain math, calculations, analysis methods, etc.
     
  14. Bruce Bowen

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    As far as IT goes, for someone coming out of high school who doesn't have the money/desire to go into debt to go to college I recommend the certification path all day every day. A motivated person could easily knock out a couple foundational certifications in 6 months and land an entry level job. By the time they would have graduated college they could easily be making $70k+ with several years of real experience under their belt.
     
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  15. HuskerInMiami

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    I'm talking for lower level people. Mostly Admin. When looking at Finance/accounting we do look for that specific degree, but one of our best budget people has a degree in Chemistry.
     
  16. Where Eagles Dare

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    All math, IYAM.

    Math is transferable across tons of jobs.
     
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  17. Cabs

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    What kind of certs?
     
  18. Redav

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    I went to college to have the privilege to look at spreadsheets all day. It's neat
     
  19. Lip

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    is your point that you work with a bunch of morons?
     
  20. Bruce Bowen

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    CompTIA A+ is going to give the basic foundation for anyone. Touches everything from network, security, general troubleshooting, etc. From there I think most people will find an area they like or have a desire to learn more about whether that be Networking, Security, Infrastructure. Comptia also has the network + and security + which goes more in depth into those areas but there are endless certifications from Microsoft, Cisco, among many others depending on your desired area of expertise. I always recommend Udemy to people. They have a free trial as well as a subscription option that gives you access to trainings on basically any certification/area of expertise. A great way to not invest a lot of money up front and really figure out what works for you.

    But yeah that CompTIA A+ alone could land you an entry level IT job, especially if you are normal human (can be tough to find in IT).

    If you have a career in mind you can google for example 'Network administrator Certification Path' and find plenty of resources of where to start and the path to take. Reddit is a great resource for this stuff too.
     
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  21. Nug

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    I was a philosophy major in undergrad, which I loved. My junior year my parents really put the pressure on me, "what the fuck are you gonna do with a philosophy degree?"

    I ended up going to law school for two reasons: (1) I didn't want to stop smoking pot and have to pass a drug test; and (2) I thought all lawyers make a ton of money. Man was I wrong on the latter, which was largely influenced by my parents and society.

    Toiled away at big law firms for 9 years before saying fuck it in 2021. The past 1.5 years is the happiest I've ever been in my professional career.
     
  22. duc15

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    I couldn’t image working a job I hated or didn’t have some passion for even if it was just a small aspect. Seems soul crushing
     
  23. Where Eagles Dare

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    Welcome to 90% of the world
     
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  24. Redav

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    I'm going to let you in on secret, pal. It's VERY soul crushing.
     
  25. Redav

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    I have thought coaching or teaching would be at least somewhat rewarding if you can at least help a kid or two down the right path but I don't really like having to yell at kids every day.
     
  26. Bruce Bowen

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    I have found happiness in caring as little as possible about my job. This video plays in my head a lot when people freak out at work.
     
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  27. Bo Pelinis

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    Doing a good job while caring as little about it as possible is an art really.
     
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  28. Bruce Bowen

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    Right? I have no issue working late to help someone out or get something done. I don't blow things off. I do my job adequately enough to fly under the radar but not well enough to where people want to throw more on my plate.
     
  29. Truman

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    Man. I feel a little fortunate reading this thread. I dont care about my job. Dont have a passion for it. Feel zero loyalty towards my company. But I do kind of like my job, even though at times I feel aimless in it.
     
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  30. Redav

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    I don't even know why my job exists. It takes maybe 10 hours a week to complete, I have next to zero human interaction, and I'm not even sure what I do moves the needle even a tiny bit.
     
  31. Truman

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    What do you do?
     
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  32. Bo Pelinis

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    There's times when I feel fulfilled by work accomplishments. And I want to do a good job and reach goals. But idgaf about it at all ultimately. I could walk away tomorrow if I was financially able and feel nothing.
     
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  33. racer

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    Not much
     
  34. Where Eagles Dare

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    Parents destroy the teaching and coaching aspect.
     
  35. Bo Pelinis

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    I coach travel sports and it's fuckin rad and I love it and that shit costs me money. Getting paid to do it would be cool but then it would be a job and that change in mindset is a whole thing.
     
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  36. Nug

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    This is me 100%
     
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  37. Truman

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    Same. Im in sales, so there's the financial incentive succeed. And as dumb as it sounds, there's still a thrill of closing a deal.

    But at this point in my career - I can basically set my own hours, I have a ton of flexibility, almost no micromanaging ect. Humblebrag, but Im pretty good at my job, so ive always exceeded quota. My company has a lot of nice, but meaningless perks which helps.

    There are times I feel like I want something new. There are lots of momentary frustrations and stress, but it's hard to walk away from what I feel is a pretty good situation. Ive basically trapped myself
     
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  38. Bricktop the white

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    I applied to be some sort of lawyer with the IRS because i think it would be fun to throw rich assholes in jail for a living.
     
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  39. racer

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    Spoiler alert: rich assholes won’t be your target
     
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  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    Congrats on destroying the lives of poor minorities who couldn't properly work their way through our convoluted tax system.
     
  41. Redav

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    I'll do dumb shit like watch mic'd ups by NFL films for the Super Bowl. As you watch them celebrate "man it must be awesome to achieve something in life."

    *hello darkness my old friend*
     
  42. Arrec Bardwin

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    Love my job.
     
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  43. zeberdee

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    I just suck it up and work so I can spend the money on my family and fun stuff. I don't hate my job, but I could definitely be doing something I enjoyed more for less money.

    if my job made me miserable I would definitely at least do yourself the favor of looking at different companies in your industry. I know at the end of the day none of them REALLY care about you, but some of them are much better at pretending and it helps.
     
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  44. Redav

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    There's like 3 places to work where I live if you have a college degree. I work at one, the second one I've applied to prob 50+ jobs and never actually spoken to a human in response and 3 is insurance which I tried and hated worse than what I currently do.
     
  45. zeberdee

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    I guess moving is out of the question? what about a fully remote position?
     
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  46. Redav

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    My life outside of work is fine so I don't really want to change that. My family is happy and family nearby and I'm not sure I'd fix anything by moving.
     
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  47. Bricktop the white

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  49. Shawn Hunter

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    All depends on how you look at it. If you just look at it as a means to make money it’s no biggie.
     
  50. Shawn Hunter

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    Seriously. We are not our jobs.
     
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