I imagine Dabo will make a statement at some point, it will be super evangelical, and y’all will hate it no matter what it is because he beats your football teams Clemson posters are making a big comeback.
The amount of arrogance needed to say "Sure my coach will make some pointless post about adult Santa as a response to Shitty AMC Show of young black men like the ones he coaches, but yall are just mad because he wins" cannot me measured. Some moments are fucking bigger than Xs and Os. This is one of them. Equating the two is privileged as fuck. Edit: Every time
Seeing this thread get bumped is just another sign of Dabo and Clemson living rent-free in Ohio State fans' heads
I think Dabo means well, and he has done some great things for many individual people. That said, he's a football coach, and not a particularly intelligent or nuanced person, so he says and does a lot of really dumb, tragically unaware shit. I think that most of his players probably balance those things in their own ways.
I think Dabo was wrong about Kaepernick. I also don’t think he’s a bad person, or a hateful person. I actually think he’s a good person but a Pollyanna about race issues. Given that his statement will be evangelical, I hope his statement reflects an appreciation of this blog post by a former Clemson player. https://sojo.net/articles/black-rage-anti-black-world-spiritual-virtue
I dont think he's a bad person either. He seems like a good dude, albeit aloof but people can still have strong opinions about him over the Kap thing and have nothing to do with his football success. The fact remains that every black parent should ask him about his comments when recruiting their son and he should have to answer, as should any coach that makes comments similar.
think this is how most of us think of him. he says cringe worthy things and has views that are different from my own but I feel he does give a shit about the players and generally means well.
1. He was wrong about Kaepernick 2. He's probably not hateful but he is selfish as fuck. He admitted that he'd rather quit coaching than see the young men (mostly black) get paid and probably make more money than a lot of their families have ever seen. You can feign ignorance and say "gee shucks he's just our football coach what can he do?" but the reality is that his words go pretty far especially with some audiences that aren't sympathetic to the cause. When you factor that with the fact that he'll never turn down the chance to get in front of a microphone and talk about Jesus and faith and all that other bullshit, his silence makes it easy to guess he's not sympathetic to the issue. But hey, everything is about winning football games.
I do hate how much we revere college football coaches. They're generally dumb, singularly-focused, and astronomically overpaid.
Bomani has had some interesting takes in the past about Dabo and other white people who grow up in poverty, broken homes, etc being more tone deaf about these situations and he’s pretty empathetic about it. Clemson fans are all riled up on twitter about Bomani pointing out Trevor said something before Dabo but Bomani gives him much more benefit of the doubt than a lot of journalists so it’s definitely annoying to see people freak out about the benign comment he made yesterday.
He called them “entitled” for thinking they should get paid - as a he signed a contract to make more than $9 million a year.
I’d like to see a word filter list almost as much as Dabo wants to keep college football players poor
I don’t think it’s ridiculous based on his personal experiences playing the sport and how it shaped his life, but I also don’t see how he squares it with how much money he makes now. It’s not 1993. Mediocre coaches make $4 million a year. I don’t think the guy is the worlds perfect person. I think he cares about the players he coaches, runs a program that graduates players and puts a lot of emphasis on life after football, and he wins a lot. I wouldn’t vote for him to hold an office and I don’t agree with his theology.
Same could probably be said for 90% of the people we see every day across the media outlets the average American consumes.
True, people tend to see them as a father figure or some type of authority. These guys are Incredible at what they do but they are not decision makers at the government level and thank god. They just coach football very well.
my favorite unintentionally hilarious example of this is when people insist on saying "Coach Swinney" instead of just Dabo, like the guy is a doctor or something
I've talked about it multiple times every time he says something stupid. Dabo does lots of good things for his community and his team. He also has lots of dumb as hell regressive positions that I don't think he understands kneecap his overall mission. He should educate himself and listen to people smarter than him, but it's really easy to go all bible thumper "i dont see race" when you're sleeping on beds of cash.
Simone Biles would be impressed with gymnastics required to hold this position and to criticize the statement Jimbo out out yesterday.
Huh? I said Jimbos statement failed to meet the threshold of adequate. Dabo as far as I've seen hasn't said anything which is worse. You're being awful weird lately.
We can agree to disagree about the adequacy of Jimbo’s statement. It’s not the best I’ve seen out of a college coach, but it’s better than those who’ve said nothing. I haven’t seen that Dabo has addressed this issue, which doesn’t surprise me because his past statements lead me to believe he won’t do himself any favors by opening his mouth. We both went to schools whose alumni make it difficult for the coaches to speak out on this. I’m glad Jimbo made an effort, maybe he’ll change a few minds.
Sure, this is all reasonable. Doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't chide his half cocked statement either.
I can live with that. I used to kind of like Dabo. Like any coach I’m sure he loves his players, but he comes off as particularly out of touch.
I've interacted with him a good bit personally and I still USED to like him more. So I'm right there with you.
On the one hand I totally get it with Dabo. He grew up about as bad as a white dude can, worked his ass off, remained a true believer through the worst, and I'm sure from his perspective has been lavishly rewarded for it. On the other, fuck him and probably my coach too.