I had a great experience today - especially on the trade in. My highest cash offer online was Carvana for $14,700 (I thought it was actually pretty high offer because others were lower by ~500). I let them do the appraisal and told them to give me their best offer. They came back with some 11,500 crap. I pulled out the Carvana offer and said we were really far apart and asked if they could do any better. They came back with 14,000 and when factoring in the tax savings, the final value was 14,900. Felt like a huge win and I already completed the negotiation on the vehicle price, so totally separate transactions. Got 3.9% for 48 mo. financing and didn't take any additional products. Probably the best I've felt from a car-buying experience ever. Everyone should print out their highest cash offer quote before trading in and be prepared to counter with it. I honestly didn't think they would come up so much.
Friends, educate me on the best full size SUVs. Don’t need Suburban, XL, etc. Been mainly looking at tahoes, Yukons, etc. Currently have a ‘16 explorer and it hasn’t been great. Replaced transmission under warranty and has a mind of its own electronically.
Fair question. Not sure we absolutely have to one, but 2 kids, a big dog, and wife lugs a bunch of shit to work (pediatric OT).
if your kids are young, the money you save by buying a minivan vs a Tahoe will appreciate to what amounts to a full tuition scholarship at a state school. Plus sliding doors and significantly more useable interior cargo capacity. if you absolutely can’t handle the minivan, a 3 row crossover like the cx90 or Subaru ascent is still a better choice
They’re 6 and 4. We’ve talked about a minivan, and may revisit. We got one as a rental during the transmission issue, which lasted 4 months. It was pretty damn convenient.
I absolutely love my wife's 2022 Tahoe Hauls all her shit and the kids shit, and my one little bag, and is comfortable as hell for my 6'3" ass to drive on a week long road trip. Has every luxury I could want in a vehicle. Price is kind of high, but I don't think of "best" and "most practical" and "price " as the same thing. I honestly wish I could have convinced her to get the Suburban, but she thinks that extra foot or two is too much
My Uncle put 490k miles on his 03 sequoia. He bought a brand new capstone sequoia last summer. Thing is awesome. Dealer offered him 500$ trade in for his old sequoia.
Yeah i don’t think he ever had a single problem with that thing either and it still ran great. Think he ended up just giving it to an employee of his.
Like cross country or over seas? Like 99% of domestic cars get moved around the country in open air trailers and trains But I would think on a ship it would need to be loaded in a container
The more I look and research, the more keen I am on this Toyota Sienna. The convenience, cargo, and 39mpg are pretty damn attractive.
It was a top choice for our family until we realized acquiring one in our area is practically a myth. One local dealer said production was so backed up on Sienna's, they've had to stop taking orders. A friend on the east coast who looked into one at a dealer said the wait time was over a year. If you can get one, it looks like a solid family ride!
Went and got a 2018 CRV EX-L this week to replace my 2014 one that was totalled earlier this year. Has less than 70k miles on it so not too bad.
I’ve been getting 32-34 mpg on my Sienna, bought it in August. It’s great. Biggest issue will be finding one.
Damn. There seem to be a few around me in Charlotte, NC. A few others expected to arrive in a few days, including a Limited trim with the rear entertainment package, digital rear mirror, etc. that I’ve inquired about. Never thought I’d be the one convincing my wife to get a mini van, but here we are, lol. The thought of 14mpg for $30k+ more for a Tahoe/Yukon…
There was a huge cultural movement to brand minivans as lame and move people to the more profitable suv, but minivans are just unbeatable for what they can do IMO.
I’m with you. I admittedly used to be too cool for minivans, but the practicality is so nice, along with the price relative to full-size SUVs.
Anyone with a minivan as your daily driver where it snows regularly? Read that the Pacifica AWD models were ok
Don’t sleep on Honda odyssey’s. It’s my daily driver now. Need it for work and it’s an amazing ride. Need to add tint and step up the speaker situation though
3rd gen Sienna has MUCH worse speakers/sound than my 03 Ody, though. And you've got to rip the fucking thing apart to replace them, too. It sucks.
There’s a platinum sienna being delivered to a dealer about an hour north of here. Confirmed it’s available. They have a $2,500 dealer adjustment on it though. Is that just expected with the sienna/this trim right now? Obviously would like to avoid that.
Is that a flat $2500 added on? Or related to a make ready package/touch up like nitro filled wheels, wheel locks, door guards, tint etc.
My local Toyota dealer had (maybe still does) a $10k flat markup just because they could. I ended up buying mine from a dealer in a different city who did not apply a markup (however they did do some dealer add-ons like rubber floor mats etc that I did just have to pay for); however I waited months and was in contact with many dealerships within 2-3 hours of my home. Siennas are low volume and high demand. $2500 is on the average’ish range of markups I have seen but ideally it’s $0. All up to you and what you can afford/stomach and how quickly you need this vehicle.
hensleya the toyota sienna subreddit is pretty active with people car hunting. someone maintains this spreadsheet which pulls vehicle allocations from toyota's site. Spoiler
Very helpful - thanks! Definitely puts the low supply in perspective. Only a handful of plats in NC and only a few in SC.
The general consensus is that the big 3 minivans (sienna, odyssey, Pacifica) are all excellent. The Pacifica hybrid supposedly has reliability problems and I probably wouldn’t keep a Chrysler product beyond the warranty if I could avoid it, other than that, I’d go for whichever I could get the best deal on. the Kia carnival is supposedly good too but Kia’s engines keep exploding and they fight tooth and nail to avoid honoring the warranty and the dealership experience sucks ass
I think Kia knows the perception, and I'd be surprised if things are that way. The turbo motors (smaller than these) were the big issue, and they did address it with corrected replacements...but yeah, took 3-4 months. I wouldn't worry too much, but that's just me. Just read something on TheDrive that the Pacifica will be redesigned soon, so you might get a deal if you can wait...
Lil man has a ‘23 KIA and we’ve had no issues with it outside of condoms in the glove box and a slight fender bender.
Alright, test driving a Sienna XLE and an expedition in the morning. Only Sienna close enough to test drive before committing to making the drive for the platinum. The expedition is to rule out a full-size SUV. I’m team minivan at this point.
I was more on the 2023 model for a 16/17 year old who is a proven dumbass Not sure the apple falls far from the tree there
So glad we got our sienna before it went crazy. Love ours. Had it for roughly 2 years. Only had to wait about 3 weeks with no markup. All on the sienna bandwagon. Get one if you can.
We had zero room for negotiation when getting our Odyssey a couple months ago. They didn’t need to. They never had them off the lot. Everyone buys them off the truck. If I didn’t buy it, somebody else would in a few days. I tried my best to get more for a trade in, have them pay taxes, whatever I could get. Nothing. Bastards.
That’s about what I’m expecting tomorrow. The lady legit sounded shocked it hadn’t already been spoken for. And she knows I’m driving over an hour away, which probably doesn't help my case.