Fuck is wrong with painting your nails? I know plenty of dudes that do that shit. Hell, I almost did it once just to do it.... Man I really wish dudes would stop being so uncomfortable with their sexuality and just immediately projecting that shit onto other men rather than having some fucking self reflection. Like this guys thoughts immediately jumped to fucking his dad?????? What in the flying fuck
Hate to see Ohio State fall so far that head coaches and GMs are just skipping it on the pro day circuit. Have to wonder if they'll ever go back to Columbus.
BTW Do Michigan posters actually believe Mccarthy is going to be worth a shit in the NFL? Shit seems more outlandish to me than the Levis shit that went on last year
You think JJ McCarthy in the top 10 is more outlandish than Will Levis in the top 10? Or more outlandish than Will Levis falling into the 2nd round.
More outlandish than Levis in the top 10. There's nothing I've seen Mccarthy do that indicates to me he's better than Will Levis
He played with an undertalented offense at Kentucky aganist a bunch of minor league NFL squads. Mccarthy played one one of the most stacked teams of the past decade. Comon now let's not do that. FWIW I don't even think Levis is good, but anyone who thinks they know how good Mccarthy is going to be is going to have to prove to me why because nothing I saw at Michigan indicates to me that kid is an NFL caliber QB
The only box that McCarthy doesn't check is volume, but when he was asked to make big plays he did. I think volume is probably the least important factor to consider in a evaluation like this. I think teams will care about what he can do and trust they can develop where he is inexperienced.
Levis’ whole projection was pretty solely based on him being built like a Greek god and a howitizer for an arm. He never showed elite QB traits in college beyond that. McCarthy has shown them, just limited because Harbaugh’s offense doesn’t ask him to that much.
Harbaugh's offense didn't ask Andrew luck to do much either and that didn't fucking matter, he still went out there and was highly impressive and put up big numbers. Did it ever occur to anyone they never took the reigns off him because they didn't trust him to actually carry the offense....
If I were judging whether to take a QB I think the biggest factor (assuming they check boxes physically) is how they perform in film study/white board stuff and we don't know shit about how that goes with these teams. Then the leadership skills/intelligence which teams are flat out bad at judging.
You can like JJ or think he sucks. I really don't care. But this point is bad and makes me want to call people names that aren't nice. And I don't want to do that because I would prefer to be a nice person on this board.
My point is we've seen time and time again where teams will take the reigns off the most conservative offenses in college to let their QB who at some point becomes one fo their best players sling the ball. Why didn't Michigan ever do that?
I couldn't give less of a fuck dude have at it. I'm not the only person saying stuff like this and are confused as shit by the Mccarthy hype. It just has to be a fucking smokes creen
They didn’t need to do that to win a national title. Seems counterintuitive to pigeonhole your offensive system, which clearly works, to showcase a QB at the detriment of team goals.
Michigan guys could weigh in better than I can, but what I watched of them, their run game concepts and play designs were 100x more creative and thought out than the pass playbook. I really think it is more a coaching skillset / background preference and advantage than it was a personnel choice for them to run it as much as they did. just as another game example, Michigan / PSU game. McCarthy threw the ball 8 times or whatever. First like 4 drop backs he got pressured or hit on all of them and nearly had a pick off a deflection. Michigan realized PSU offense could do absolutely nothing against their defense and wouldn’t score, decided the best way for us to score would be a strip sack or tipped pass INT. Ran it the rest of the game because that gave them the best chance to win. I don’t think that was an indictment on McCarthy, more so Chop Robinson beating their OT.
Pass blocking was also a bit suspect so against the better teams, there was more of a focus on the run game. The tackles weren't going to hold up in a passing heavy attack.
Or it’s because they knew they didn’t need him to. Luck’s last year numbers 71.3% 3,517 yards 404 attempts 8.7 y/a 37 TD 10 INT McCarthy’s last year numbers 72.3% 2,991 yards 332 attempts 9 y/a 22 TD 4 INT It seems to me McCarthys numbers are better across the boards besides volume. He has a better completion percentage, higher yards per attempt, fewer INTs. TDs are lower because again, volume, we never threw the ball in the red zone because we didn’t need to.
He also basically sat out most of the second half of the first 5 games or so because the leads were so big. Doubt Luck had the same thing going on.
The Penn State game is the funniest one that McCarthy critics will point to. We didn’t throw the ball for like the last thirty plays of the game. But that had nothing to do with McCarthy. He was 7-8 at that point. It was just clear we were going to be able to contain the Penn State offense and risking a fumble on a sack or a pick on a deflected ball was the biggest risk for us in that game. So we ran the ball repeatedly.
After today I don’t think any GM could justify taking MHJ at 8 or higher. Too many red flags. I’d be ok using a #9 on him though. Just my outside assessment of the situation. Not an expert.
Pretty much this. I think Michigan aspires to be the team with the most diverse, complicated running game in the country. They don't just do gap or zone. Inside zone or outside zone. They want to do it all. That's not normal in CFB. You can't have any level of competence in doing those things if you're not repping the hell out of it in practices, meetings, film study, etc. And when you're in college and you have a 20 hour limit on practices, there's a cost to that in the things you don't get to rep in practice or can't put into the playbook because there's not enough time to make it work. In general, Michigan values the run game as part of its identity, and that wasn't going to change under Harbaugh outside of a couple years when the team was a lot worse and a WR coach was his OC instead of his OL coach.
We play methodically and short games snap wise. Additionally, we were so dominant he didn't play in a lot of 2nd halfs/have to throw which lessen his counting stats. And didn't have a lot of cheap yards from screens/college frippery that prop up others.
Michigan went 15-0 and won a national title. It led by at least 21 points in 11 of 15 games. I don't know what the exact number is, but I think it trailed for like 30 minutes the entire season. JJ didn't take a snap in the 4th quarter of 7 of 15 games, and I'm pretty sure he didn't attempt a pass in at least 2 others. Michigan's identity and philosophy (as I and others wrote above) as a team is doing what it did, and it worked to the level of winning a national championship. And you're here talking about them like they fucked up.
????? I called them one of the best teams of the past decade Ken Dorsey did shit like that too... So did a bunch of those Bama QB's in the early days of the Saban dynasty. Am I supposed to be impressed?????
If you want to watch McCarthy and say he sucks, go for it. I'm not going to sit here and argue with everyone about his talent or abilities. I've said my piece on him in that regard for 2 months now, but I get why people would watch him play and feel either way about him. But projecting the belief that the lack of passes on the way to going 15-0 is because the coaches didn't think he specifically was any good is a stupid talking point that suggests the people who make it don't understand how football actually works.
Right or wrong about what? I'm not telling you McCarthy is going to be a pro bowler. I'm telling you that holding it against him that his coaching staff didn't call more passes or change its entire offense and philosophy because of him is a stupid way of evaluating whether he's any good. And that will remain true whether he becomes a top 5 QB or busts out of the league in 3 years.
Michigan pass offense is complex and not very "QB friendly". the guys it produces get an uptick for being in a pro style offense which is rare in college these days. Im frustrated he didnt come back for that big senior year with all the counting stats, but it is what it is. sherrone Moore and kirk campbell wouldve let him rip Harbaugh is now shoehorning Justin herbert into a goddamn Greg roman offense. He doesnt do pretty passing stats. The other 31 NFL front offices know what his deal is.
So that would mean Nabers to Arizona at four. There’s no way the Chargers at five wouldn’t run the card in for MHJ.
Minn trades up to 4 to get JJ in that scenario. Then something like Alt - Nabers - Fuaga - Turner. To get to 9. Someone would surely jump up in front of Chi if he drops past 5 imo.
Vikings moving for Maye is the main goal, but it seems like they are quite content with McCarthy as a consolation prize. I just don't know if he would be there at 4. Daniels has never really been seen as a 'fit' for O'Connell, but they tried everything last year to trade up for Anthony Richardson, who is also a wildly different player than what people presume fits in the offense.