2023 National Recruiting Thread: Home Of 8th Grade In-Person Coach Evaluations

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  1. TAS

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    No we're not
     
  2. Jake Scott

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    Ohio St mods know all the NIL numbers :idk:
     
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  3. TAS

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    :laugh:
     
  4. Where Eagles Dare

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    The quasi-legality of it made the amounts blow up.

    These players need to get paid, but the whole idea of these collective is just stupid. These aren't "sponsorships", which was the intent behind NIL. Like Livvy Dunne making money on social media/ads/etc.

    Give these kids true salaries, maybe escalating through class or even tie it to % of credits towards a degree if we want to pretend it needs to be tied to academics, then let them get proper endorsements on top of it.
     
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  5. Imurhuckleberry

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    I suspect that over the next few years there are going to be quite a few of these promises not being kept things going on. When the first multimillion dollar kid turns out to be a complete bench warmer and the rich benefactor isn’t getting to brag what was already a bad investment from an ROI standpoint will become a problem.
     
  6. Redav

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    Most of those numbers are made up :twocents:
     
  7. Mix

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    I'm getting $6 mill to go to this school is the new my girlfriend goes to another school.
     
  8. CF3234

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    you aren't wrong, but everyone knew this was coming. TMB has discussed some version of NIL for years and every time the conversation would come up, someone would mention that bag schools would just offer kids 100k to do an autograph signing or something. There's no way to have NIL and not have a system where boosters will pay kids way more than their real life market value to induce them to play for their team.

    How?

    Let's use UM as an example. Ruiz and LifeWallet is technically the proper way to pay these kids. He's paying them money to endorse LifeWallet. But what prevents Ruiz from paying these kids more than they are worth? Pretty sure Ruiz signed UM's starting PG to endorse life wallet for like 250k per year. You think anyone knows who the fuck Nigel Peck is outside of UM basketball fans? Of course not. It's all a sham to get kids paid to play sports for their school.
     
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  9. Saul Shabazz

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    What's the Mas fam puttin up?...that strictly facilities/infrastructure or is it what got yall those bookend tackles?
     
  10. Tangman

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    I know who Nigel [sic] Peck [sic] is but I’m built different
     
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    Miami has a few different people putting up NIL money, but Ruiz is the self proclaimed mouthpiece of it all.
     
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    idk
     
  13. Gritty Badger

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    Supposedly, and who its coming from is usually pretty reliable, the Mas bros are just as involved if not more than Ruiz, but they obviously have normal size dongs and don't go on twitter for attention and fighting with the Boos and afb's of the world. Pancake was definitely non Ruiz funds
     
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  14. Gritty Badger

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    thought you were part of the 3 way call with all the UGA kids and Ruiz this summer, no?
     
  15. Jake Scott

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    I've been advised to give no comments.
     
  16. Gritty Badger

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    smart, don't want to fall up some stairs
     
  17. harvey birdman

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    Who do you think will get part of the contract for the new Miami facilities?
     
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  18. ned's head

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    I'd be so interested in knowing what both parties are seeking

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  19. Fusiontegra

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    The reporting around all of this has been 95% bullshit made up for clicks. I'm curious to know the full story once the deadline passes and something is determined but right now, I don't think anyone that actually knows what's going on is saying a damn thing.
     
  20. CF3234

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    what part is bull shit? because it seems pretty clear that this is a NIL issue where UF's collective isn't able/willing to abide by the terms they agreed to that got Rashada to flip.
     
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  21. Fusiontegra

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    Cool. What were the terms? Who's side reneged on the deal? Who was responsible for paying the money? How much was it?
    Who drew up the contract? Who is representing Rashada's side?

    The idea that NIL is supposed to be "above board" payment for recruiting is a farce. It's just more people involved, still no oversight, and the values have gone through the roof.
     
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  22. ned's head

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    I agree that we likely don't know the real story. I also kind of doubt we ever will. It's honestly a tough spot for UF though. Perception is reality and it's gonna be tough to get that out of people's minds
     
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  23. Fusiontegra

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    That's actually the worst of this. We're in an "everything written on the internet is true" phase and the optics of this is shit if we never get the full story.
     
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  24. El Tiburon

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    Except that the general public has the memory of a goldfish. In three weeks everyone will be in to the next outrage.
     
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  25. Fusiontegra

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    The general public isn't the concern. It's every school in the country we're recruiting against being able to say "solid chance you'll never get the money they promised you".
     
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  26. ned's head

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    Plus if I'm a recruit with two high money offers that are close together, I'm probably not going with the one who was alleged to have backed out.
     
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  27. Pelican

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    I’d tell Rashada and his dad to fuck off. He’s a Jeep Wrangler looking for a Lambo price.
     
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  28. CF3234

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    The exact terms are irrelvant, but it boils down to Player X (Rashada) agrees to a marketting deal with company Y (gator collective) to be paid shorly after player X just happens to sign a NLI with School Z (UF).

    It seems pretty clear that UF is the side that hasn't fufilled their end because not even UF writers have found a way to point the finger at Rashada.

    Whichever Gator Collective made the deal with Rashada.

    does it matter? whether it was $5 or $5 million, the gator collective said he'd get paid up front and hasn't done it.

    Almost certainly the gator collective, but again does it matter?

    Once again, does it matter? Could be Heitner, could be someone else, doesn't change that he wasn't paid.

    well no fucking shit. But this was always the inevitable result especially when the NCAA declined to get involved.

    Post this in the fuck around and find out thread. UF's collective made promises it hasn't kept. If it were anything otherwise, every UF mouthpiece on ON3, 247, etc would be saying this is a Rashada problem. They aren't. It's a UF issue.
     
  29. harvey birdman

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    This is why Fusiontegra said he wanted to know the facts because this is all conjecture on your end. Including which collective actually reached an agreement with Rashada. Just sit this one out.
     
  30. Boo MFer!

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    Every UF writer has repeatedly said this ISN’T a Gator Collective issue, dipshit. As usual, you know fuck-all about anything.
     
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  31. Boo MFer!

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    Fair. I think the kid really wants to be at Florida, but as in many cases, has overbearing parents pushing him to make a bad decision.
     
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    Sounds like the parents are the smart ones in this situation

    Boom roasted
     
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  33. CF3234

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    go ahead and post the screen shots of reputable people saying this ISN'T a UF's collective issue.

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  34. Boo MFer!

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    To clarify, it’s not a “more money” issue. It’s an expectation and clerical issue.
     
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  35. CF3234

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    So who isn't living up to the expectation? UF's collective or Rashada?

    Because you can't be this dense.
     
  36. Gaknight

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    :pffft:
     
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  37. CF3234

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    read the reporting from UF's own 247 writer. He's telling you its a NIL issue with UF's collective and that it's a bad look for UF. How on earth is that conjecture?
     
  38. harvey birdman

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    Trusting any of our beat writers at this point is your first mistake.
     
  39. Fusiontegra

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    Cane wants everything he reads to be true so he's acting like it is. I get the drama of it all is hilarious from a rival standpoint but again, the humor in any of this is the perception of it all, not the actual facts...because there are none yet.
     
  40. CF3234

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    I trust all beat writers regardless of team to spin things in the best light for the team they cover. Your own beat writers aren't able to spin this.
    If we are playing this game, you want everything you read to be false because it makes UFs collective and by extension UF look like a clown show. Your only hope is that this is somehow a Rashada issue where the kid is demanding money that wasn't part of the original agreement.
     
  41. harvey birdman

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    No idea why you think we have any hope at this point. You think you’re smarter than you are in this sphere. Saying you trust our 247 or On3 writers shows us that you know nothing about UF in this sphere.
     
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  42. Fusiontegra

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    Our collective has been a clown show for months and this isn't the first thing they've fucked up. I fully expect it to be on them.

    But trusting the same sites that say we're paying him 13million(lol) and that the Rashadas spoke to Stricklin and then..oops, didn't speak to Stricklin...is stupid.

    They're spinning as few details as they have into as many click opportunities that they can, regardless of the "light" it paints anyone in. That's their job.
     
  43. Gritty Badger

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    I’m like 90% sure UM is going through the same thing with Cormani just without the headlines. Difference is Cormani brought it on himself because he can’t get paid due to FL law since he failed to graduate early and enroll
     
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  45. westcoastbias

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    Whatever his number is, it sounds like he made the sale at the lambo price and now the market changed and lambos are going for a lot less
     
  46. Pelican

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    Also 247 is trashing on3 now bc 247 was supposed to get the exclusive about him requesting out of his NLI. But on3 reported it before Huffman could run his story on Friday. Now that that’s happened the kid’s dad is trying to control the narrative.

    There are countless reasons to trash on3 (and obv Shannon Terry) but this isn’t really one of them.

    Please note that Ohio State isn’t involved in this recruitment and I’m as impartial of a bystander that you’ll find.

    Okay going swimming now bye
     
  47. IrishLAX2

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    Recruiting Service drama >>>> Recruit drama
     
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    I see no lie here.
     
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  50. CF3234

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    so mr impartial bystander. what's going on here?