well this really fucks with our chances of finding anything out about Jon. I guess there's still a chance Ned told Howland about it after, but that doesn't really seem like something Ned would do.
I did like that "silence" before he answered. Howland has to know, he just didn't witness it. And if the theory (not a fact but I'll put it in a spoiler anyway) that Spoiler Jojen = Howland then even better.
yea I can't get with that. Unless the Reeds are really Children of the Forest or something which is stupid. Jojen is clearly a boy and not a freaking grown man that survived battles with the Kingsguard
Not necessarily.....Ned could have entered the tower without a baby and came out with his sisters body and a baby and it would have been obvious to Howland whose child it was
I continue to hate GRRM. Dude is famous for these books but still isn't even half way through the next one even though ADWD came out last summer meaning he had to have finished it by about the end of 2010 at the latest. He's not even making a legit effort to get through it. Stephen King can push out a book a year (albeit smaller books with less detail) but it takes this nerd 6 years to write one?
The HBO series beginning and becomIng really popular isnt going to help his writing pace. Theres no doubt in my mind that the fat fuck will die before he's finished, I just hope he leaves enough notes for someone else to finish it.
The HBO series also guarantees he gets the books out before the show catches up to him. He's been working on ASOIAF for more than 20 years now. There's no way he's going to let D.B. Weiss and David Benihoff unveil the final installments to his baby before he does.
That's exactly what I was thinking. They're getting to book 3 now, so either the show has to slow up or he has to speed up, and with the revenue and popularity of the show I don't see HBO hitting the brakes
the show guys won't pass the books imo. HBO might go out and find someone who will but I don't think the current team will pass Martin. they're too big of fans themselves.
my guess is they would just slow down production and space out the seasons if it starts to get close.
No way the show doesn't catch up. Shit they could split every book into two seasons and still catch the fat fuck before he finishes the next book.
Say book 6 comes out in 2014. HBO should be running Season 5 then but we know Book 3 will be split into 2 seasons so they'll be showing happenings from book 4. That gives GRRM 2 years to finish book 7. He should have a ton of motivation to get it done by then
How does GRRM get away with this shit from his publishers? Even JK Rowling had her editors on her ass.
Book 3 will be spaced out into two seasons (2013-14), and books 4/5 will be combined and split over 2015-16. He has 5 years to get 2 books out. No excuses not to get that done.
yea, but it was filler because while she really wasn't doing anything, GRRM had to find a way to include her in the story since she's so important in the long run. the show will have the same problem. they'll have to give her some storyline.
a lot of this discussion assumes he actually wraps it up in 7 books when he continues to admit that he can't guarantee that.
I have no faith in it being finished anytime soon if at all. I mean book 5 came out 2 years ago which means he probably finish it 3 years ago, and he's got all of 400 pages written for book 6.
You guys are crazy if you think an HBO show gets to 10 seasons. Eventually people who don't read the books will get sick of waiting for a payoff and tune out. I mean hell, how many shows get 10 seasons anyway? Plus, think of how many main characters are in the books. For HBO to employ all these people and keep them around five or six more years is going to cost a lot of money. Eventually those costs, plus other production costs, are going to make the cost of the show too much for HBO to sustain. I wish it weren't the case but I've basically convinced myself the show will end before the books are finished. The people who don't read the books won't really know any better and the people who do read the books will take solace in whatever is left there.
Season 3 will lock people in for Season 4. Season 4 will likely determine how many more HBO plans for.