Bert kills Chryst

Doc Louis · Oct 2, 2022

They're only a Russell Wilson-caliber QB away from competing for a conference 'ship. Need the new coach to come in and hit the transfer portal,

It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens · Oct 2, 2022

chuckmasterflex said: ↑

You got to make that call
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Is this the onion?

joey jo-jo jr shabadoo · Oct 2, 2022

It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens said: ↑

Is this the onion?
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nah just some dipshit that works for clay travis

Can I Spliff it · Oct 2, 2022

Idk man leaving Alabama is a goal for a LOT of people

backinblack23 · Oct 2, 2022

Can I Spliff it said: ↑

Idk man leaving Alabama is a goal for a LOT of people
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AFTER college though.

HoosDaMan · Oct 2, 2022

All of these schools firing their coaches early to get a shot at Bronco Mendenhall.

The Subspace Mariner · Oct 3, 2022

Dr. Richard Cranium said: ↑

I have to think that this is just to hand it to Leonard.

There are other interesting options for them with local ties though.
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Take it from Colorado...you do not hire from within the family. Ryan Walters looks like a dynamite DC with major future HC potential... As a Colorado fan...I want nothing to do with him.

spagett · Oct 3, 2022

The Subspace Mariner said: ↑

Take it from Colorado...you do not hire from within the family. Ryan Walters looks like a dynamite DC with major future HC potential... As a Colorado fan...I want nothing to do with him.
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I'd very much like him to stay longer. I think he's either taking a better DC job or a HC job after this season, though

Not sure how he'll do as a HC, but the turd polishing he's done at Illinois is incredible.

hudson · Oct 3, 2022

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Do not fucking touch Leipold
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He’s not a lifer there.

Harrison Beck · Oct 3, 2022

The Subspace Mariner said: ↑

I think they've just Nebraska'd themselves. Meaning they're firing of Pelini was insanely stupid.

Wisconsin is never going to be and never has been a legitimate title contender, and they and Nebraska in this day and age should be thrilled with teams that win 8 or 9 games regularly.

Wisconsin is long overdue for a drop off a cliff.
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Lol at the bolded. It never ceases to amaze me how people legitimately think all Nebraska had to do was not fire Pelini and everything would’ve been fine. Grow up Peter Pan.

Bruce Wayne · Oct 3, 2022

chuckmasterflex said: ↑

You got to make that call
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You miss 100% of the shots that you don’t take

Dirt Dirt McGirt · Oct 3, 2022

actually wished they'd kept Chryst

also wish Leonhard had taken the Packers DC job a couple years ago

hood b. goode · Oct 3, 2022

huskerrolly · Oct 3, 2022

ono said: ↑

Do not fucking touch Leipold
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If he keeps winning he’s getting scooped up by us or Wiscy.

backinblack23 · Oct 3, 2022

Who makes up Wisconsins list of candidates? Leohnard then who?

Bert Handsome · Oct 3, 2022

Coaches with ties to the school/state:

Leipold - He’s a Wisconsin native who played at Wisconsin-Whitewater and later led the program to six Division III national championships.

Doeren - Wisconsin assistant from 2006 to 2010

At least make Aranda say no... Maybe Big 10 having a place at the table is enough to pull him from Baylor - but he'll have a long list of suitors

Guy that has been in the same room as Sean McVay: Thomas Brown was Wisconsin’s running backs coach in 2014 as Melvin Gordon rushed for a Big Ten-record 2,587 yards and was a Heisman finalist. Brown, known as a strong recruiter, was Miami’s offensive coordinator from 2016 to 2018. He’s spent the past three seasons with the Rams, earning a Super Bowl ring last year as the running backs coach.

Emma · Oct 3, 2022

backinblack23 said: ↑

Who makes up Wisconsins list of candidates? Leohnard then who?
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Jim Leonhard
Lance Leipold
Dave Aranda
Sean Lewis
Matt Campbell
Darrell Bevell
Jake Dickert
Dave Doeren
Bret Bielema
Dave Clawson
Mel Tucker
Nick Saban

Probably in that order

MG2 · Oct 3, 2022

I like Aranda, but if I'm Wisconsin and I like Jim Leonhard as much as it sounds like they do, not sure I see the point in paying Aranda at least twice (probably more) what it's going to cost me to give Leonhard the job.

southlick · Oct 3, 2022

hood b. goode · Oct 3, 2022

Dr. Richard Cranium said: ↑

Guy that has been in the same room as Sean McVay: Thomas Brown was Wisconsin’s running backs coach in 2014 as Melvin Gordon rushed for a Big Ten-record 2,587 yards and was a Heisman finalist. Brown, known as a strong recruiter, was Miami’s offensive coordinator from 2016 to 2018. He’s spent the past three seasons with the Rams, earning a Super Bowl ring last year as the running backs coach.
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Really is all it takes to land a HC job these days

Bert Handsome · Oct 4, 2022

nofatchildren - cissp · Oct 4, 2022

Dr. Richard Cranium said: ↑

Coaches with ties to the school/state:

Leipold - He’s a Wisconsin native who played at Wisconsin-Whitewater and later led the program to six Division III national championships.
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Perhaps also worth noting that Leipold coached at Wisconsin as Grad Assistant under Barry Alvarez, so he also keeps that coaching line intact.

Mr. Bean · Oct 4, 2022

Aranda/Leonard, Leipold/Doering make sense in that order imo

I feel like Leonard can’t actually win himself the job without Aranda first turning it down but he can def lose it

Sean Lewis is a B1G quality coach someday but his offense is an awful fit for the badgers

Emma · Oct 6, 2022

https://theathletic.com/3661745/202...nsin-jim-leonhard/?source=user_shared_article

Evidently some pretty damning stuff.

Anyone able to post?

killerwvu · Oct 6, 2022

Emma said: ↑

https://theathletic.com/3661745/202...nsin-jim-leonhard/?source=user_shared_article

Evidently some pretty damning stuff.

Anyone able to post?
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Put the link in archive.is
I read it earlier, but Chryst didn't adapt to recruiting with NIL and had almost no recruiting department. Missed on some key recruits in state

WC · Oct 6, 2022

Tbh I’m not sure why you’d fire Chryst if Doeren is a viable replacement.

Bruce Wayne · Oct 6, 2022

Shithead coaches like Chryst failing to adapt to a changing landscape are a dime a dozen at the highest levels

killerwvu · Oct 6, 2022

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Shithead coaches like Chryst failing to adapt to a changing landscape are a dime a dozen at the highest levels
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I'd take him over Brown in a heartbeat

hood b. goode · Oct 6, 2022

Last season, Jimmy Rolder, a 6-foot-2 and 220-pound linebacker from Marist High School in Chicago, visited Wisconsin for a football game as a prospective recruit. Rolder was a late-bloomer with loads of potential, the type of talent Wisconsin often identified early and signed. There was just one problem that day.
“No one talked to him,” said one source with direct knowledge of Wisconsin’s recruiting operations. “No one knew who he was or anything about him.”
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Bert Handsome · Oct 6, 2022

Emma said: ↑

https://theathletic.com/3661745/202...nsin-jim-leonhard/?source=user_shared_article

Evidently some pretty damning stuff.

Anyone able to post?
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MADISON, Wis. — The parents of a Wisconsin football player were driving home recently from a volleyball tournament for their daughter when conversation shifted to the homework assignment she needed to complete. The task: Writing a paper that featured an interview with someone. As the three of them considered who might make a noteworthy subject, one parent pulled out a cell phone and fired off a text to Badgers coach Paul Chryst.

Moments later, he called and offered 10 minutes of his time.

That was Chryst, a man respected because of how much he cared about the people he knew. It’s why, following a brief team meeting Sunday evening inside Wisconsin’s football facility to announce that Chryst had been fired midway through his eighth season, many players were shaken by the news and expressed support for their former coach.

But for Chryst, what made him so admired contributed to his downfall.

“The biggest compliment you can give Paul happens to be his biggest flaw,” one parent of a Wisconsin player told The Athletic. “He is loyal to a fault. I think that makes it very hard to be callous in this business because that’s the reality of it. If that’s just what he’s doing with the families and players, how do you respond to your coaches that you’ve had forever, your friends, when things don’t go well? A person that has that great of a loyalty about them, it makes it very hard to be callous when it comes to tough decisions.”

The 30,000-foot view of Chryst’s firing is that it was a shocking and ruthless move made at the first sign of slippage for a coach who won 72 percent of his games and embodied Wisconsin football as a native of the state and a former Badgers player and assistant. The timing, after three losses in the first five games, felt sudden, as athletic director Chris McIntosh took the most significant action of his 15 months in the role to promote defensive coordinator Jim Leonhard to interim coach. Two people who have spoken to Chryst since he was fired described him as blindsided.

“I don’t think anyone saw it coming, to be honest with you,” Wisconsin safety John Torchio said.

The reality is Wisconsin — a program that aspires to compete for Big Ten championships — has drifted farther from achieving its goals. Chryst went 52-16 during his first five seasons, winning three Big Ten West titles and appearing in three New Year’s Six bowl games. Since the start of the 2020 season, his record was 15-10, including 9-8 in the Big Ten. Wisconsin’s 34-10 loss at home to Illinois on Saturday, in which the Badgers looked like they quit against a team that hadn’t won in Madison in 20 years, served as a final indicator to McIntosh that a new direction was needed.

“The expectations of our program at Wisconsin are to win championships,” McIntosh said at a news conference Sunday night. “I felt that it was the right time to make a change to pursue those.”

Wisconsin, seemingly among the most stable programs in the country and one not prone to drastic action, fired its football coach for the first time in 33 years. It did so at a time that ensured Leonhard — a hot commodity in the coaching market and the potential future of the Badgers’ program — attained his opportunity and didn’t slip away. And while the move came as a stunner, sources close to the program say Wisconsin had been lagging in multiple areas as doubts mounted about Chryst and his ability to change the program’s trajectory.

Chris McIntosh, a Wisconsin All-American in 1999, became athletic director in 2021. (Mary Langenfeld / USA Today)
Last season, Jimmy Rolder, a 6-foot-2 and 220-pound linebacker from Marist High School in Chicago, visited Wisconsin for a football game as a prospective recruit. Rolder was a late-bloomer with loads of potential, the type of talent Wisconsin often identified early and signed. There was just one problem that day.

“No one talked to him,” said one source with direct knowledge of Wisconsin’s recruiting operations. “No one knew who he was or anything about him.”

By December, Rolder had blossomed into a four-star prospect who signed with Michigan, where he has become a key contributor as a freshman.

“The lack of recruiting department hurt that heavily,” said another source familiar with Wisconsin’s recruiting. “They probably would’ve had Jimmy Rolder.”

It’s a prime example of Wisconsin’s recruiting department issues last year, when Chryst went more than eight months with what amounted to a makeshift staff. It began in June 2021 after Wisconsin director of player personnel Saeed Khalif accepted a position to lead recruiting efforts at Michigan State just as the NCAA dead period ended to allow on-campus visits. At the height of Khalif’s tenure, he had four full-time members on his staff and was down to two at the end due, in part, to budget cuts related to the pandemic.

Chryst did not immediately revamp the unit because he said the bulk of the work already had been done on the 2022 recruiting class, and he wanted to ensure he made the right hire. He moved Eric Johnson, already on Wisconsin’s staff as executive director of football administration, over to spearhead recruiting. Johnson had previously spent 15 seasons in coaching and recruiting roles at Iowa, although his last season of involvement there was 2013.

As recruiting staffs across the country bulked up — Khalif said in August 2021 he had 12 people in his department at Michigan State, while Penn State currently lists 10 — Chryst stood pat. His decision to wait until after the season in February, when he put tight ends coach Mickey Turner in charge of recruiting and bolstered the staff, appeared to set progress back.

“With Wisconsin and the way that they recruit, they’ve never been a school that does a lot of recruiting with bells and whistles,” said Allen Trieu, a Midwest football recruiting analyst for 247Sports. “They do what they do and they have success with it.

“So on one hand, I thought it was a little bit odd that they didn’t fill the position. On another hand, because it was Wisconsin, doing this internally and working with the people they had was very fitting to the way that they have generally approached recruiting.”

Chryst told a few reporters in his office overlooking Camp Randall Stadium last December that he wanted every person to have “a full plate” and asked other coaches to help fill in the gaps on recruiting. He said nobody had come to him to say they were overworked.

“Everyone’s plate was overwhelmingly full,” said the source with direct knowledge of Wisconsin’s recruiting operations. “They were overwhelmingly full, but not all the responsibilities and roles were filled. There was a lot of emptiness. There were so many missing pieces and parts that he just didn’t want to acknowledge.”

Another recruiting source said that, because Wisconsin’s department was so understaffed, those tasked with tracking and interacting with recruits during home football games weren’t provided with lists of which players would be attending. That’s how Jimmy Rolder slipped through the cracks when he visited campus with a high school teammate.

One of the recruiting sources said Johnson “did an admirable job” stepping in but that he was placed in a tough situation and the department lacked a progressive mindset. The source said there was no precedent set by Chryst in terms of his recruiting or evaluating expectations and that prospects either were evaluated minimally by the department or not at all. One parent of a player said it was difficult for Chryst to “make the adjustment into the new world of college football,” citing the importance of NIL to players and interactions with boosters.

“Recruiting has changed so much in the last two years,” said the recruiting source with direct knowledge. “The best way I can describe it is he was really outdated in his recruiting approach. I think he kind of was stuck in the old age of recruiting in the 1990s when you just wrote letters and only interacted with kids when they came to campus. For the eight months, no one really took the bull by the horns and it kind of just floundered. No one knew what to do.”

Johnson left the program after last season for an opportunity in private business. When reached by phone, he said that, while he did not have any recruiting staff to work with last season, he believed Chryst was tremendous in his communication and that the assistant coaches pitched in and worked hard “like the old days” when programs didn’t have full recruiting departments.

“Now you have staffs that are fully devoted to social media, so they’re bombarding kids more and more,” Johnson said. “The graphic design department has gotten bigger so that you can hit kids that way. So I think it’s just more and, in my mind, it’s not a great more. But it’s more of kissing these kids’ tails and constantly being in front of them rather than letting them be kids and earning everything they’ve got all the time. Now, you’re trying to earn them rather than them earning you.

“But I think we did a great job of balancing it out. I think all the coaches individually did a great job of making that a priority along with everything else. There’s enough time in the day. When you’re in the office 16 hours a day, there’s enough time to do that, and I think they did a great job of doing that.”

Paul Chryst’s last game was a 34-10 loss to former Badgers coach Bret Bielema. (Jeff Hanisch / USA today)
Chryst eventually brought in a staff of eight people, many of whom were in their first season in a recruiting department. Wisconsin had signed its three best recruiting classes during the online ranking era from 2019-21, the last of which ranked No. 16 in the 247Sports Composite and featured six four- or five-star players.

Wisconsin’s 2022 class ranked No. 44, and the Badgers uncharacteristically whiffed on four-star in-state offensive linemen Carson Hinzman (Ohio State) and Billy Schrauth (Notre Dame), which traditionally has been a staple of the program’s success. Its 2023 class ranks No. 54 and doesn’t feature a single four- or five-star prospect. Although Johnson acknowledged Wisconsin missed on some recruits, he said he didn’t think what the department accomplished “put Wisconsin behind the 8-ball in the least.”

“I know fans look at it,” Johnson said. “Wisconsin has had a philosophy similar to Iowa on what they want to recruit and what they look for in players. They may not always match up with the stars. But I think if you look at the history of Wisconsin, they’ve had a lot of success with guys that may not have been highly rated coming out but were tremendous football players and high character and tough kids. I think sometimes that gets overlooked now. Paul and the staff have done a tremendous job of finding some of those guys.”

Chryst had to make an important decision about the future of Wisconsin’s program late in the 2020 season. Junior Jack Coan, who led Wisconsin to a Rose Bowl appearance one year earlier, had returned from a broken right foot sustained during preseason practice. Graham Mertz, a redshirt freshman who was the highest-rated prep quarterback in program history, had taken the starting job in his place.

Mertz appeared to possess more long-term upside and had dazzled in his starting debut against Illinois. Chryst couldn’t make any assurances to Coan that he would be the starter, and Coan transferred to Notre Dame after the season. The move tied Chryst’s success to Mertz.

Last season, Chryst became Wisconsin’s quarterbacks coach after Jon Budmayr left for Colorado State and re-took play-calling duties from offensive line coach Joe Rudolph following a disappointing 2020 campaign. Wisconsin’s offense stalled again, as Mertz threw more interceptions than touchdowns, and the Badgers lost their regular-season finale to rival Minnesota, costing them a spot in the Big Ten championship game.

“They don’t know what it looks (like) to win any other way,” said one agent of Power 5 coaches who’s familiar with the Wisconsin job. “That clouds the progress of the program. They’ve had some good passers. But with the exception of Russell Wilson, (the fans) don’t know what a good quarterback looks like.”

Chryst knew he needed to make some long overdue changes to his coaching staff and relinquish his play-calling role, and he did so with a handful of curious choices following Rudolph’s departure for Virginia Tech. He moved special teams coordinator Chris Haering to coach tight ends even though he had never coached the position. After running backs coach Gary Brown, who died earlier this year from cancer, had to step away from his role late last season, Chryst brought in Al Johnson — a former Badgers offensive lineman who had never directly coached running backs, although he was a head coach at Division II East Central.

In Chryst’s most significant move, he hired Baltimore Ravens tight ends coach Bobby Engram as offensive coordinator. Engram worked with Chryst at Pittsburgh in 2012 and 2013 as a wide receivers coach and had never called plays. Chryst said he believed good coaches could succeed regardless of what position they coached.

He never fired an assistant during his time in charge.

As he evaluated his roster, Chryst did not add a quarterback out of the transfer portal to challenge Mertz. The top transfer in the portal, Oklahoma’s Caleb Williams, reportedly considered Wisconsin but followed Lincoln Riley to USC. Chryst told reporters he never personally spoke to Williams.

Wisconsin has a 15-10 record with blue-chip recruit Graham Mertz as starting QB. (Jeff Hanisch / USA Today)
In the end, the offense this season, particularly in three games against Power 5 opponents that each resulted in losses, didn’t fare any better than it had before. The Badgers averaged 15 points per contest in those defeats, with Mertz completing 55 percent of his passes for a total of 527 yards with four touchdowns and four interceptions. The team continued to struggle in areas that had been strengths for years, committing too many penalties and turnovers. Wisconsin’s traditionally dominant offensive line was overwhelmed, and the Badgers totaled two yards rushing in the loss to Illinois on Saturday, their lowest total in seven years.

At halftime of the Illinois game, with Wisconsin trailing 14-10, Chryst told his players it was “time to draw a line in the f—ing sand,” to take a stand and rally. Wisconsin was held scoreless in the second half, gained 68 yards of total offense and surrendered 20 points. Torchio acknowledged after the game that “something’s off” with the team.

“You can sense the body language,” one parent of a player said. “There has seemed like an unease and edge that there was never really a discussion about. It just didn’t seem right.”

According to multiple sources, Wisconsin’s team this season has struggled to adjust to new leadership roles following the departures of a veteran-heavy group that included players such as inside linebackers Jack Sanborn and Leo Chenal, safeties Collin Wilder and Scott Nelson and tight end Jake Ferguson.

Nose guard Keeanu Benton, one of three captains this season alongside Mertz and outside linebacker Nick Herbig, screamed at members of the offensive line during the fourth quarter of a Washington State loss to spark what he said would be “some passion in their heads.” The Badgers didn’t score a point in the second half. Over the final two games of Chryst’s tenure, a once-reliable defense gave up 86 points in losses to Ohio State and Illinois.

Benton said this week that he felt a sense of responsibility for what happened to Chryst and wondered whether he struck the right balance as a leader.

“This is not the outcome that we wanted in a few games that we had,” Benton said. “We had to find a way to stay strong as leaders and try to lead these guys to a victory. Unfortunately, it didn’t happen.”

One parent of a player said Chryst and his coaching staff deserved credit for putting the ownership on the players, but that kind of freedom also can create potential conflict.

“You see some programs that are controlling about what you’re going to wear when you get off the bus,” the parent said. “How are you going to represent? What are you going to say? How are you going to go the podium? Are you going to have sunglasses and a hat on? Are you going to be professional? He let the kids have that role. He let them make decisions. I think that did not help the cause. I’ll put it to you that way.”

The same parent said that the Badgers’ regression is even more disappointing given that the current team is built around players from Chryst’s best recruiting classes.

“The talent’s there,” the parent said. “Players take on the personality of their coaches. As much as everyone hates P.J. Fleck, you look at the guy and you look at how his team responds to him. There is emotion and toughness. The more talent you have, the harder you have to coach because you have to break through that ego at times. You start getting into these higher rankings and these kids that are really good, they’re coming in and now you throw on top the NIL deals.

“I can tell you if you watch Ryan Day coach, he holds everyone accountable. And I think that’s really the biggest thing I think this year that you’re seeing. There were multiple blown assignments and there’s just no accountability to it.”

On the day he was hired as head coach in December 2014, Chryst arrived for his introductory news conference wearing a dark suit, a red Wisconsin pin attached to his lapel and a wide smile that indicated just how much this opportunity meant to him. It was an emotional moment for a man who grew up in Madison, whose bicycle route as a kid brought him to Camp Randall Stadium to deliver six newspapers to the football offices and who took pride in serving on the cleanup crew with family members inside the stadium on Sunday mornings after games.

In the moment, it seemed as though there couldn’t have been a more perfectly aligned fit in college football given how well Chryst understood the unique challenges of the job. Then-athletic director Barry Alvarez brought Chryst back to provide stability following two stunning Wisconsin head-coaching departures, first Bret Bielema leaving for Arkansas in 2012 and, weeks before Chryst’s hiring, Gary Andersen bolting for Oregon State. There was a growing trepidation that, despite Wisconsin’s football success, the program somehow lacked the appeal to be a so-called destination job, as Alvarez had made it as a coach by lifting the Badgers from the college football doldrums in the 1990s.

Chryst was asked then whether he considered Wisconsin to be a destination job for him.

“When you talk about destination job, I think you’ve got to earn the right to stay that long,” Chryst said. “There’s two great examples: Coach Alvarez, and I think what Bo (Ryan) is doing right now in hoops. They’ve earned the right to make it that destination job, and I sure hope to work to try to make it that. But you’ve got to earn it, I believe.”

Alvarez coached for 16 seasons at Wisconsin and became a College Football Hall of Fame inductee, while Ryan coached into a 15th season for the Badgers and was inducted into the National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame. Both men left on their own terms, comfortable in the knowledge that they had achieved everything they could at the end of their respective coaching careers.

The 56-year-old Chryst never got that chance to see it all the way through, highlighting just how much the landscape has changed. Alvarez, after winning consecutive Rose Bowls with his 1998 and 1999 teams, immediately went 13-19 in Big Ten play during a four-year stretch but was never in danger of losing his job.

“Paul Chryst probably should’ve been fired at the end of the year,” the parent of another player said. “It’s all the little things. It’s not one big thing. But the guy in charge is Paul, and he’s got to go because of that.”

Jim Leonhard was a three-time All-American safety for Wisconsin in the early 2000s. (John Fisher / Getty Images)
Now, there is new guidance at Wisconsin with a coach who, like Chryst, grew up in the state and then played and coached for the Badgers as an assistant. If Leonhard can learn from the missteps Chryst made and show progress during seven regular-season games, he’ll be in excellent position to earn the role full-time.

“His schematic knowledge for football is pretty impressive,” Torchio said. “I’d probably say it’s second to none in the country. He’s a great leader. Guys on this team respect him.”

Leonhard, who turns 40 later this month, provides a youthful and vibrant energy, in addition to a high-level football acumen and understanding of the program. He has become such a well-regarded coach that his name consistently emerges for head coaching jobs. Leonhard turned down the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator role in February 2021 to stay with Wisconsin, citing his love for the program and its values. People close to the team believe he has what it takes to move Wisconsin in the right direction.

“Kids are different now,” the parent of a player said. “This is the Twitter age. Kids want that music. Kids want to be on those videos. That’s relevant in Wisconsin’s culture. I’ve been down there on State Street. Those people party down there. Wisconsin isn’t a damn Quaker community. We can be straight-laced and wear our suits pregame. There’s nothing wrong with that. But Jim Leonhard is a dog. He was a dog as a player. He’s a dog as a defensive coordinator.

“And he’s got to come out of the woodworks. … Let’s go. Let’s get these boys in here and let’s win some games. Go get these big linemen. Damnit, we’re going to get the best running backs in the country. We’re going to get the best linebackers, DBs who play defense and we’re going to knock Ohio State off the throne. He’s got to come in here like that.”

To fire a coach at midseason seemed so entirely unlike Wisconsin. But the expectations have been established that settling for the status quo won’t be tolerated. And while there is risk in every move, Wisconsin believed based on where things were headed that it was better than taking no risk at all.

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