Realignment: The ACC enters the Suck Zone

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  1. steamengine

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    Go 9-4 IMO
     
  2. steamengine

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    They get Purdue, Maryland, and Illinois at home IDK what you're trying to say here.
     
  3. TC

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    Why not? How are the shares divided
     
  4. Bo Pelinis

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    For now, the money at least. The schedule stays bad.
     
  5. Bo Pelinis

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    There's like a vesting period or something.
     
  6. pez

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    You can't give poor people money too fast. They're not responsible.
     
  7. OHW

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  8. kslim

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    also ku could afford to take the track of death out so yea we responsible as fuck bro

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  9. Bo Pelinis

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    He was talking about Rutgers and Maryland homie.
     
  10. steamengine

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    I don't know why there would be tears. I look forward to Nebraska once again returning to prominence.
     
  11. kslim

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    that was nice of you. as a spokesman of the GOAT 12 i acknowledge this gift and send you this

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    its your big 10 trophy case
     
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  12. Bo Pelinis

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    What kind of poor person trophy case is this
     
  13. kslim

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    i just wanted to post "track of death"
     
  14. dallasdawg

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    god damn kansas football is so depressing
     
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  15. OHW

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    The University of Nebraska has won multiple Big 10 trophies and national championship trophies since joining the conference. Their trophy case certainly is not empty, that must be someone else's.
     
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  16. steamengine

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    Why do the Big Eight schools go by NU, CU, OU, and KU, but University of Nebraska, Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas?
     
  17. kslim

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    in a sport that matters bro, stick with the rivals arguments or get out
     
  18. Blu Tang Clan

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    Never understood this. It's been a little awkward since we already had an NU that was actually an NU.
     
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  19. kslim

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    several people i know are legit worried about beating rhode island this year. it blows my mind how bad they are
     
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  20. Bo Pelinis

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    It's not a problem because Northwestern is NW HTH
     
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  21. Blu Tang Clan

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    No. It's Northwestern University, not North Western. Just call yourselves UN (or UNL) like adults. It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
     
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  22. Prospector

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    wow they really wanted out
     
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  23. Bo Pelinis

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  24. Bo Pelinis

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    Northwestern sucks a thousand dicks at football anyways they can fuck off
     
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  25. steamengine

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    Stole this from another board, fun read about the future:


    Let us turn back the history clock to the drivers of realignment:

    #1 The B1G is in a dying footprint and was the only P5 really needing to expand their footprint
    #2 In 1989, the B1G started realignment with Pedo State (bypassing AAU Pittsburgh)
    #3 In 1989, the main targets were Notre Dame and Texas
    #4 In 2009, the main targets were still Notre Dame and Texas followed by UNC

    I postulated the realignment in June of 2010 was instigated by the B1G and supported by the PAC as a way to destroy the threat the BXII had become while limiting the schools the SEC could add to keep up. Sure, many do not believe this but realignment is a slow process behind the scenes with quick action at the end for the media and general public. Here is the BXII in early 2010 with B1G targets in ITALICS (assuming the Gee plan instead of Delany's) and the PAC targets in BOLD cording to this LA Times from June, 2010

    BXII North
    Colorado + Iowa State + Kansas + Kansas State + Missouri + Nebraska

    BXII South
    Baylor + Oklahoma + Oklahoma State + Texas + Texas A&M + Texas Tech

    That would leave the SEC with just Baylor, Iowa State, and Kansas State so they probably do not expand (I still believe the SEC is the firewall to the ACC, not their destroyer because ESPN controls both). Both the B1G and PAC would be happy because none of the better schools wound up in the SEC. However, the plan did not come to fruition with any of the following to blame…
    • Baylor screwed up the PAC 16 deal
    • Delany plan (moving east) overruled Gee plan (KU + MU)
    • B1G being greedy (asking Corn and Missouri for 50 million to join, and Missouri balked)
    • Texas A&M had no desire (based on their fans) to join the Left Coast
    • LHN distracted Texas

    While the BXII would have been destroyed and SEC should have been hobbled the overconfidence by the B1G and PAC actually helped the SEC the most. With Texas A&M in the PAC it would have shut the SEC out of Texas so that was a net win for the B1G and could mean potential spots for Texas + Notre Dame to get to 16, or UNC + Notre Dame to get to 16 as a backup. Instead, the worst thing for both happened when Texas A&M joined the SEC and opened Texas to the SEC. While the value of Missouri is still in debate, losing Saint Louis and Kansas City to at least shared territory with the SEC just made matters worse.

    Notre Dame was smart in all of this by moving toward the ACC as the best survival fit if IND was a doomed option. With Notre Dame + Florida State you would have as much of a football anchor as the BXII has with Texas and Oklahoma, the B1G has with Ohio State and Michigan, and the PAC has with Southern California. The bigger issue is if Texas (via an ego) is prepared for what happens next after Boren has been shot down this past week or two. The B1G fanboys are all but assured the Sooners will follow Corn to the B1G, but what if they join the SEC instead?

    What happens to Texas and the rest of the BXII?

    Oklahoma to the SEC, the question becomes, who is 16
    Texas to the ACC (with Notre Dame going all in) = ACC 16
    Kansas to the PAC or B1G (outside shot as partner with Oklahoma to SEC)
    Iowa State to the PAC (outside shot at B1G or SEC)
    Texas Tech to the PAC
    Houston to the PAC (before TCU or Baylor, but may remain AAC)
    Oklahoma State to the PAC (or slight chance for SEC)
    West Virginia (outside shot at the ACC, if not AAC bound)
    Kansas State is probably AAC bound
    TCU has limited options, probably AAC
    Baylor has the fewest options, probably AAC



    ESPN lands Oklahoma via the SEC and Texas via the ACC, FOX gets shut out while the RRR becomes another ACC vs SEC "power game" and the LHN is folded into a future ACC network at the end of the current agreement or the ACC could become an 18 member conference in all sports but football so Notre Dame and Texas football are exempted with football only deals. Irish keep NBC and Texas keeps LHN, but it becomes a football only deal based on games like NBC deal for Irish. like the Irish, the rest of Texas sports comes under ACC control. If the ACC does this, spot 16 probably goes to West Virginia or Cincinnati.

    P5 has now been reduced to P4 with 4 conferences of 12 to 16 members and the AAC becomes the strongest of the G5's.
     
  26. dallasdawg

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    why in the world would the PAC take Iowa State over TCU
     
  27. Bo Pelinis

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    TCU is a Christian institution? Also that list is worth grains of salt since it gives more than a 0% chance ISU joins the B1G/SEC.
     
  28. dallasdawg

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    does that matter to the PAC?
     
  29. kslim

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    with an outside shot at the big 10 or sec was my favorite part.
     
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  30. Bo Pelinis

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    That's been the argument as to why BYU would never get in but I honestly don't know aside from posters in these sorts of threads repeating it.
     
  31. Blu Tang Clan

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    Yes. Stanford and Cal are pretty gung-ho against schools with religious affiliations. That's a big reason why BYU wasn't considered in the expansion that brought Utah.
     
  32. VaxRule

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    This wasn't even up to dude standards.
     
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  33. VaxRule

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    It's also part of a post that tells a story of Missouri turning down a B1G invite.
     
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  34. dallasdawg

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    BYU wasn't considered because they don't play any sports on sundays. I don't think it actually has anything to do with their religious affiliation
     
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  35. kslim

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    they dont play sports on sundays BECAUSE of their religion so yeah it kinda does but fuck byu anyway. i hate when they get mentioned.
     
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  36. steamengine

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    Oh look at the peanut gallery over here.
     
  37. dallasdawg

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    yeah I didn't word that very well. I highly doubt the PAC would turn down TCU because they're a so called Christian school
     
  38. VaxRule

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    Sorry. It was Baylor fan level fanfic.
     
  39. kslim

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    with baylor raping everyone i have to give them the official nod
     
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  40. steamengine

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    I didn't write it. I'm just trying to change the subject to keep Nebraska's solid fan base to keep from slitting their wrists from the weight of overwhelming regret.
     
  41. Bo Pelinis

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  42. steamengine

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    I don't think its the religion thing; I just think small private schools with concentrated fan bases aren't typically first in line when expansion happens.
     
  43. dallasdawg

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    right, but I would definitely put that small private school in Dallas ahead of Iowa State in that line
     
  44. The Goat

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    Ha at the Pac taking any of those teams without the big boys.
     
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  45. steamengine

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    ISU is AAU and a fairly well respected research public. Not sure that shit matters anymore in the next round of realignment, but who knows?. If it's a football decision then TCU obvi.
     
  46. jokewood

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    Iowa State offers no value to the Pac-12, B1G, SEC, or ACC.
     
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  47. dallasdawg

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    or Big XII for that matter
     
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  48. Bo Pelinis

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    Iowa St. is Kansas if Kansas was shitty at basketball
     
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  49. steamengine

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    I agree, but I still think a conference would choose them over TCU.
     
  50. Lefthook

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    All Pac12 schools are also research institutions, which is the reason why schools like Fresno State and Boise State will never get a sniff.