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  1. ohbluefan

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    Going through the cap for next year we can cut him and save $1.2 mill....thinking we should do it.
     
  2. DirtBall

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    3rd and long defense is ridiculously awful
     
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  3. DirtBall

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    How much does cutting Mack and Quinn save?
     
  4. ohbluefan

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    I don’t care what happens next year in regards to Pace, Nagy, and the QB position but if we bring Pagano back I’ll be furious. Is there any defense in the NFL that does less with more?
     
  5. ohbluefan

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    It’s cheaper to keep them.

    $20 million EXTRA to cut them :facepalm:
     
  6. DirtBall

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    Trevathon

     
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  7. ohbluefan

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    Keeping Danny and not Kwit was a big fuck up
     
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    Winning this game is gonna fuck out draft stock and won’t result in a playoff birth.

    We are in hell on so many levels with this franchise.
     
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    Pagano sucks so fucking bad
     
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    The Pagano D is amazingly bad.
     
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  11. DirtBall

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    Can a defense play any softer? Fucking hell that’s embarrassing
     
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    7 plays, 97 yards, 2 minutes.
     
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    Luckily we have Nagy and Pagano, this thing isn’t over
     
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  14. DirtBall

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    Straight up doodoo

     
  15. Scblue

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    Right on cue. Fire all of these assholes
     
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    Yes! Thank you Mitch
     
  17. ohbluefan

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    Such a cluster fuck, legit any other DC in the NFL could do better with this defense
     
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    That’s impressive even for Nagy’s crew
     
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  19. ohbluefan

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    Throw a pick and end this thing
     
  20. DirtBall

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    Im thinking they drive to about the 10 then end zone interception
     
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  21. ohbluefan

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    LOL....
     
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    Nagy you stupid fuck
     
  23. DirtBall

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    Haha, ARob hates this team.
     
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    Amazing loss
     
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    Hell yes

    Great loss to fire everyone
     
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  26. ohbluefan

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    This should do it, they can start with Pagano tonight
     
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    Start with Ted fucking Phillips and then work your way down....fuck this team.
     
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    Even for the Bears that was bad good god
     
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    They spoke about the brain trust that Phillips used to hire Pace. And listed all the GMs that trust suggested and they all flamed out or have been fired.

    Ballard would be the GM of this roster if it wasn’t for Phillips. Let’s hope everyone is cleared out.
     
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    Yep he wanted to answer the the McCaskeys and Phillips didn’t like that...fire his ass
     
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  32. Illinihockey

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    Texans going to mow down the bears next year and hopefully the team quits at that point
     
  33. ohbluefan

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    The defense quit 2 weeks ago
     
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    The Bears’ 34-30 loss against the Lions on Sunday was everyone’s fault.

    Well, almost everyone.

    Running backs David Montgomery and Cordarrelle Patterson and some of the members of the Bears’ makeshift offensive line — namely, center Sam Mustipher and guard Alex Bars — played well enough to win. But the list of everyone else is long — too damn long.

    The loss is on defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano for his soft defense and lack of creativity — again.

    It’s on outside linebacker Khalil Mack for not generating a pass rush.

    It’s on outside linebacker Robert Quinn for the same — but times 30 million (guaranteed).

    It’s on the secondary for their blown coverage that resulted in Lions receiver Marvin Jones being wide open in the end zone for a 25-yard touchdown in the final minutes.

    It’s on receiver Allen Robinson for making a 4-yard gain on third-and-5 in the final 20 seconds when he could have gotten the first down and more.
    It’s on offensive coordinator Bill Lazor for calling that failed fourth-down run to Montgomery on the next play.

    It’s on left tackle Charles Leno Jr. for ending consecutive drives with a holding penalty and a missed block on Everson Griffen’s spin move that resulted in a sack.

    It’s on right tackle Germain Ifedi for getting beat by Romeo Okwara for a strip sack of Mitch Trubisky inside the Bears’ own 10-yard line in the final two minutes.

    It’s on Trubisky for losing another fumble — especially in that moment — even though he was getting into his throwing motion.

    It’s on coach Matt Nagy for everything — all of the above and beyond — that’s led to this being the Bears’ sixth consecutive loss.

    And it’s on general manager Ryan Pace for his role in assembling this roster and creating this mess to sort through on a weekly basis.

    When it’s on this many people — and I’m sure there are more — and it results in a humiliating loss against the lowly Lions, of all teams, it doesn’t become a matter of cleaning house because the Bears are already at that crossroads again as a franchise. It’s a matter of whether chairman George McCaskey should simply get it over with and do it now.

    In the past, the Bears have strongly preferred to not make in-season changes. But sometimes enough is enough. NFL teams reach that point at various times every year. The Lions just did with Matt Patricia. In recent weeks, there have been rumblings about how irate McCaskey is with his team. It was particularly true after the Packers’ pummeling of the Bears last week. It’s why there are reasons to believe that president Ted Phillips’ job, at least in its current state, could be lost after this season as well.

    Hard as it is to believe, the Packers’ loss wasn’t rock bottom. That came Sunday against the Lions, who won behind interim coach Darrell Bevell. The Bears are a bad team that’s beyond broken. They ran for 140 yards and three touchdowns and still lost.

    Nagy was asked after the game about what can be salvaged over the final four weeks. The Bears have winnable games against the Texans and Jaguars. But losses to quarterbacks Deshaun Watson and Mike Glennon seem about right for the 2020 Bears. One would be another reminder of what could have been at quarterback, while the other would be another indication of just bad things have gotten this season.

    “Is this right now a difficult time? You’re damn right it is; it really is,” Nagy said. “It’s hard. It challenges you in a lot of different ways.”

    The great irony in Sunday’s disaster was that Trubisky (26-for-34, 267 yards, one touchdown, 108.3 passer rating) played well enough to win, too. His one gaffe was his fumble late in the fourth quarter. He said it’s important to keep two hands on the ball in the pocket but he also saw receiver Anthony Miller over the middle and readied a throw when Okwara struck.

    It was another example of the Lions’ pass rush being at its best when it was needed. The Bears’ defense, on the other hand, deserves to be called out by Nagy again. The most damning stat for the Bears’ defense was Detroit converting 6 of 11 third downs — often easily, too. Much like the Packers and other teams before them, the Lions successfully handled the Bears’ highly paid tandem of Mack and Quinn. The Lions produced 460 total net yards of offense. Matthew Stafford threw for 402 yards. Pagano’s seat would be hot if Nagy’s weren’t already.

    “Just the way it ended, we’ve been on the other end of so many of these and now to have a lead like this and lose this way, it stings; it hurts,” Nagy said. “They all sting. They all hurt. I think you could feel the excitement on the sideline for our guys to come out and have that energy and be able to put points up on the board. I thought our guys, we did that.”

    The Bears have reached a point where Nagy is now asked about his job security on a weekly basis. He is living what Marc Trestman did in 2014 and John Fox experienced in 2017.

    “I don’t get into any speculation on any of that,” Nagy said. “What my job is to do is to make sure that each and every week I’m giving it everything I can as a coach and as a leader with these guys. I have to make sure that I do that. Any other thing, that’s a distraction, that would be taking away from our team. And that would be not good for me or them, so I don’t even get into that.”

    McCaskey will get into that, though. After the Bears’ sixth consecutive loss, it doesn’t feel like a matter of when but how soon McCaskey’s house-cleaning commences and how far it goes. At heart, McCaskey is a Bears fan — and many of them, if not all of them, outside of Halas Hall have already seen enough.
     
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  37. Bankz

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    I think the clean house at season end... And by season end I mean hours after the GB game. Don’t think we see any changes before.
     
  38. Illinihockey

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    Need the packers to stay in the hunt for the 1 seed so they kill us on the last day of the season.
     
  39. Bankz

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    Probably going to happen regardless
     
  40. goblue31602

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    If the game didn't matter for the Pack, I could see Rodgers seriously contemplating throwing the game to try to keep Nagy around. It wouldn't actually happen, but I can see it crossing his mind.
     
  41. Bankz

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    Let the cleaning of the house begin....
     
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  42. ohbluefan

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    The first domino to fall
     
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    I almost want to see if Phillips does leave if Chicago can go fishing for a big time front office guy. The Johns alluded to this on the podcast yesterday.
     
  44. ohbluefan

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    I’ll listen tonight but who’s some of the names they listed?
     
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    They didn't really want to get into the speculation. Luis RIddick was thrown out. They said they would touch on the topic a bit deeper later this week in a podcast
     
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    Mitch was really good yesterday
     
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  48. spagett

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    Has to be at least 15 pounds overweight

    No more fit GMs
     
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  49. ohbluefan

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    I wouldn’t be totally against another coach getting a year or 2 with him. I’d rather roll with Trubisky for $10 mill a year as a backup than Foles.
     
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    I kinda like the idea of trying to emulate the Ravens success...give me Joe Hortiz