It’s all good, I’m grateful I’m deemed essential and I’m not hemorrhaging my PTO. This shit is real and has simultaneously decimated the healthcare industry. Huge props to all my fellow healthcare providers. A lot of good people have been affected by all of this
I'm essential too, and I'm being underprotected, and exposed, but I feel for you more than I do for me.
But Birx/Pence told us there were millions of tests shipping out in early March. And Birx just told us a few days ago that there are 80k testing machines sitting in Abbot labs ready to start testing. Just one lie after another.
the most comedic moment has definitely been when he flicked the paper off to the side a few weeks ago
For sure that was definitely due to the Depression too and had nothing to do with things like...indoor plumbing or modern medicine. And let’s not forget that sweet war the Depression gave us. Awesome stuff.
The New Deal was crucial to dragging us out of the late-stage Depression, building American roads and bridges, developing the public safety net, etc... It did not invent indoor plumbing or antibiotics.
Just remember... If there’s anyone that gets bored at home during quarantine and shoves something up their hoo-ha, you still have a duty to us
just thought about how one of the first “sports” to start back up will probably be nascar that’ll be fun for rural america
Not until mostly after the study The Banks is referencing. The consumer and co-op financing certainly did a lot of good, but it also coincided with a rapid natural increase in infrastructure improvements that wete happening everywhere. This is ridiculous. That the Great Depression occurred at a point in history when mortality rates plummeted worldwide is an obvious correlation, not a causal factor. Have you talked to your grandparents what it was like to live through the Depression? Observed any of their habits and idiosyncrasies that evidence the psyche scarring that they experienced. Heard stories about going hungry for months and living off rabbits and squirrels? Saving useless pieces of trash off the side of the street because they can never throw anything away? You’re certainly more that welcome to value the economic fallout of the pandemic however you want, but this “Depressions are ggggGreat!” shtick is nonsense. That mortality declined generally during 1929-1937 is not evidence that Depressions are positive events. Come on.
The guy saying, “well actually, life expectancy improved during the Great Depression” without thinking about the context for a single second, or the fact that the depression led directly to a war that left, on the conservative side, 73 million people dead.
Did the Depression have nothing to do with the Nazi’s rise to power in Germany, or are you trying to be cute?
You tell me. The Depression is always cited as one of the major factors in every historical account of the collapse of the Weimar Republic, but maybe you have a better theory of what happened.
Treaty of Versailles and old-fashioned hatred were the reasons for the formation of the Nazi party. The Beer Hall Putsch and Mein Kampf both pre-dated the Great Depression. Either way, it’s another useless sideshow argument.
that’s not at all what he did and you know it. But, that wouldn’t play with your “oh no the economy” crocodile tear BS. We have safety nets in place that ironically the gop has never cared about before. Safety nets that would ensure that people wouldn’t get to the desperate state you guys are pretending to care about. Why do I think you “oh no the economy” guys are pretending to care? Well because they’ve never cared about the poor. They’ve never cared about properly funding social programs. The gop constantly fucks over POC and the poor and all of a sudden we are supposed to believe they care about those individuals. Well if you care don’t send them out to die. Just fucking fund the programs that will keep them homed and feed. Stop farmers from destroying food by buying that food and distributing it to those in need. Pay rents. Provide health care. Provide proper tools for at home learning.
That's almost word for word what he said: Banks - "US deaths went down significantly during the Great Depression, for the record." Me paraphrasing Banks- "well actually, life expectancy improved during the Great Depression” You're bringing a whole lot of assumptions into this immediate convo, some of which are warranted given my prior statements regarding my fears about what the economic collapse may lead to, but many of which are simply unfair. All I essentially said was that the Great Depression was bad. That shouldn't be a controversial statement. That everyone is immediately prepared to jump on me for it is extremely troubling and evidences a disturbing lack of objectivity.
Youd be paraphrasing wrong, I was simply correcting one of Trumps talking points. If you want to defend Trump then have at it.
we all agree the Great Depression was bad. No one is disputing that fact no one. You attempting to argue that The Banks was doing that is being disingenuous. While I know my post assumed a lot about you it was mostly meant for gop members who all of a sudden are pretending to care about the poor. I’ll assume that’s not you.
I think there's more value in steel-manning opponent's arguments than going for the lazy kill. That was a facile, incomplete, and utterly decontextualized way to refute his position. If you want to truly address the potential downsides of economic collapse with the pandemic, then you should approach it in a mature and reasoned manner. Comparing the overall mortality rate of 1929-1937 (A time when life expectancy was skyrocketing worldwide), without addressing any of the obvious health or technological improvements unrelated to the depression which led to that rate, and with no mention of mortality during WW2 or morbidity factors; to the potential health fallout during an era when life expectancies have plateaued, is just not a very good analysis.
I am not. I've been agonizingly, frustratingly, annoyingly, insufferably consistent that I'm afraid of downstream health consequences to another Great Depression event. I just posted an article last night that Quest Diagnostics (largest covid tester) recently furloughed 4,000 employees. You can google hospital furloughs and get more hits that you'll be able to read today. This shit is terrifying.
150K tests per day, 30K positives per day. Over a week straight now. 20% positivity rate. Until testing capacity ramps up we are just pretending we have this under control.
Maybe it’s too granular and hard to track, but wouldn’t the rate of hospital admissions relative to capacity be the gold standard in this scenario?