Did you post the wrong tweet? Seems like he thinks it is ludicrous that an institution with $41B of reserves is getting finite government resources. Which I would assume most would agree with.
No, why would I be? I mean I'm sure there are undercounted deaths because of people dying at home but the numbers, especially in NYC, have been adjusted up for deaths that came back without a positive test. If you want to believe there's only 4,000 covid deaths in china and 400 in Russia then fine. Guess they are doing things the right way. Must just be the United States and Western Europe that don't know how to handle things
I know we were around 20% of positive tests relative to number of tests down a couple of weeks ago, does anyone have the testing and positive numbers from last week?
Was Being a bit sarcastic since a lot of people in this thread seem to be fans of higher education Getting funding from the federal government in the stimulus package but I doubt many if any support this. Any institution with an endowment over say $5 billion (maybe even lower) should get no federal assistance and no donations should be tax deductible until they get below that threshold. Giving to the Harvard endowment isn’t charity and deserves no tax break. this is much worse than steak shack and Ruth’s chris getting Funding. At least they have a bottom rung of employees that are hurting even if they are going against the spirit of the PPP. Harvard actually laid off many of their lower paid employees (like food staff) despite that insane endowment and then put their hand out for more. It’s pathetic.
There's been a number of stories on us under counting deaths and you could look to South Korea for how to properly handle this. I wouldn't point to western Europe with their crack pot herd immunity ideas (UK/Sweden) or not taking it seriously (Italy) for how to handle this, and our numbers still dwarf the western European countries.
Everyone points to South Korea, but there are othe countries with very good numbers like China and Russia. My point was a lot of places are not under counting, they are lying. Also do we really believe Iran has over 5,000 deaths but Iraq only has 80 and Saudi Arabia 100?
I almost admire the amount of good faith needed to honestly believe an administration led by a man who has misled the public for three years and spent the last six weeks trying to absolve himself of any blame wouldn't try to conceal actual numbers.
We're down a little bit for a rolling 7 day average. Ending Sunday we're at a 18.6% positive rate for the last 7 days. A week ago it was 21.1%
you can’t get tested in many places for coronavirus so they Make an educated guess as to what happened. Just like the 50k people in a year who die of flu, there is not always clear certainty of how someone dies. I would say overall, the US number is underestimating deaths but there are definitely some deaths counted that shouldn’t. I just think there are a good bit more who should count but aren’t. no one should believe the numbers coming out of China and Russia. That doesn’t mean our numbers or the numbers in Europe are completely accurate.
Right but we weren't talking about absolute accuracy, just that America has so many more deaths than the next closest country. My rebuttal was the next closest countries are much smaller and countries of similar size aren't reporting real numbers.
until this is under 10% nationally and under 5% in areas without a lot of testing/cases we shouldn’t open up ANYTHING. The sad thing is that if our president showed an ounce of leadership and encoded the DPA (or P act as he likes to call it) for swabs and reagents 6 weeks ago we would likely have the testing capacity to know one way or the other if things can open up and actually ensure any second wave is contained. Instead, we have tested an embarrassingly few number of people and have no idea how many have it/could have it.
The Iran vs Iraq and Saudi Arabia is a bad comparison because WHO is not able to provide any assistance to Iran because of US sanctions where as Iraq and Saudi Arabia do not have that problem.
I do. Was trying to be a bit sarcastic. I can’t imagine anyone thinks Harvard getting relief money with their endowment size is a good thing.
Floridians might be as devious as the Chinese government, but they aren't as good as hiding their atrocities from the world. So I'm skeptical DeSantis or anyone can deflate the death numbers too much for any length of time.
Get your head out of your ass. The benchmark for the United States shouldn't be "well China and Russia are bad, too." https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html
my confusion with the “yea but China” people is what good does it do? Ok they are lying and not being truthful with their numbers. How does that help us move along at all?
It gives people a bulwark against admitting the United States isn't a shining beacon on the hill anymore.
I didn't say it was a benchmark, I said you cant compare raw deaths to countries that aren't the same or similar size.
Florida hasn’t done a good job of testing and can likely write off certain COVID-19 deaths as other causes but that’s not done at the state government level. A lack of testing means some cases are missed but I don’t think he’s capable (like you said) of pulling off that big of a con. He did hide the prison data for awhile and was very cagey about nursing home data but the Miami herald and other papers did a great job fighting them and that data started to come out this weekend.
Eventually a bunch of PhD's will apply statistics against the sudden spike in pneumonia/etc deaths and the covid death count will be presented as a range. They can hide things in the short term but people will one day look back on this as the shit show that it actually is.
the US had a head start in preparing for this. We also have a much larger intelligence budget and more people imbedded with WHO so the US should have been much better prepared for this than Western Europe. Western Europe also has more of their population is large, urban cities as a % of the population than the US. none of those countries have the population of the US but it’s pretty easy to see what good leadership and testing do (Germany) and what bad leadership and testing do (UK,USA). we don’t need to look at communist dictatorships cooking the books in Russia and China to know that the US has done a truly horrible job.
Refusing to test in the US is significantly worse than underreporting totals in China or Russia. You can assume that those countries are doing the same, but I would rather we test everybody and lie about the totals than not test people becuase it will add to the totals. Ideally you do neither, but given the choice I prefer the former.
Some sunshine news on my dad as of yesterday (honestly can't remember if I posted an update, it's been a hectic weekend). His been hospital monitored fever free for just over 24 hours as of yesterday so that's great news. His o2 level is staying around 99, not sure if that's on his own or with supplemental. His white blood cell count is returning to normal (it was really elevated when he checked in) and they drained 1,100 whatever units of fluid from his right lung. The plan right now is for him to go home and self isolate either tomorrow or Wed barring any curve balls. His not out of the woods yet but it sounds like he's making really good progress. Without getting too sappy and emotional with all you hard asses, the prayers, good vibes, positive thoughts, kind words, etc have all been extremely appreciated and I really do thank all of y'all for them.
Thanks man. I was taking this virus seriously early on thanks to this board but this just made it hit home. And seeing these idiots on facebook and twitter say it's nothing and that it's a hoax, etc is infuriating. Like I want to go burn that stupid party wagon in Nashville to the ground right now.
I know some in here follow soccer but 2 major British soccer teams (Liverpool and Tottenham) furloughed workers and was going to have the government pay their wages with their version of unemployment and the public was outraged and both eventually reversed course. Hopefully we can see the same level of bad press/pissed off customers to the point that we see more of this from the companies that don’t actually need it. Not holding my breath though for this to happen in America.
I get mad about that and it hasn’t impacted me on personal level yet. I can’t imagine how I’d feel about these idiots being in your position.
My brother is an overnight stocker at a kroger grocery store. they gave a "hero" bonus of $300 and a $2/hour raise. should certainly be more but i was surprised kroger did anything at all. keep in mind this was during the height of the rush on stores and they were doing average weekly sales volume by like wednesday no it isn't, at least not completely union