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  1. The Banks

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    Perfect partner for Edvinsson, if he were right handed
     
  2. DeToxRox

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    I hope the Chiarot deal has fallen apart!
     
  3. Manny

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    That Nemeth deal is hilarious.
     
  4. DeToxRox

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  5. DeToxRox

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    I always think this and it never happens, but a deal to clear some roster guys might be in the works.
     
  6. DeToxRox

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  7. DeToxRox

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    Legitimately terrible contract
     
  8. Manny

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    God damn it, Steve.
     
  9. spartanchuck

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    Are playoffs now in the picture this year? I have to imagine we'll make another move or two as well. Maybe a trade?
     
  10. hoss2183

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    Edvinsson needs to push a guy out of the lineup to make the roster now
     
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  11. spartanchuck

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    Yup. Injuries are going to happen though.

    It's going to be difficult for any of the young prospects to make the team.
     
  12. DeToxRox

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    Still like Ottawa and Boston (assuming Bergeron comes back) over us. And that’s just the Atlantic.
     
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  13. DeToxRox

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    AAV irrelevant with this term. Thank god.
     
  14. Lip

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    At least you got your tough to play against guy?
     
  15. DeToxRox

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    Well, he’s more a tough to play with guy.
     
  16. DeToxRox

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  17. goblue31602

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    We signing an entire team today? Jesus.
     
  18. DeToxRox

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    Kubalik can bomb shots on the PP. He definitely serves a purpose but also, people are going because the roster spots just aren’t there.
     
  19. DeToxRox

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  20. Manny

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    I am down for that. Now we await the trade that has to becoming.
     
  21. DeToxRox

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    So assuming the Perron deal happens, these are currently the wingers we have under contract:

    Bertuzzi
    Raymond
    Vrana
    Perron
    Kubalik
    Zadina
    Rasmussen
    Erne
    Smith
    Fabbri
    Suter or Sundqvist (pending which plays C)
     
  22. Manny

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    Bert and Zadina and pick(s) for something good.
     
  23. spartanchuck

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    Throw in Hronek with them.
     
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  24. DetroitNole

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    Hopefully for a nice top 4 defenseman
     
  25. DeToxRox

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  27. The Banks

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    In fairness, most of the guys in those roster spots previously were trash.
     
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  29. DetroitNole

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    Hey now, don't cherry pick an old post to make him look worse...give this man and his 8% some respect

     
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  30. DetroitNole

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    Also people need to forget the trade Bert stuff. Steve Y specifically said goal of this offseason was to bring in people to help out Larkin and Bert
     
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  31. DeToxRox

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    Now that Staal and DDK are gone, we need to give an A to Seider.
     
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  32. Manny

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    Lol if you think anyone is untouchable
     
  33. Vinegar Strokes

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    Everyone should be available except for Seider.
     
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  34. DetroitNole

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    Not saying anyone is untouchable, but our fan base seems to be clamoring for a Bertuzzi trade that there are absolutely no signs is coming. I'd be surprised if he's moved
     
  35. DeToxRox

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    Until he actually signs long term it’s fair to assume he’s a legitimate trade candidate. He’s had two contentious negotiations already, so I’m not going to assume this one goes smoothly.
     
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  36. hoss2183

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    Damn, I would have been all over Gaudreau for that price. I can’t believe he picked Columbus.
     
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  37. spartanchuck

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    Sounds like he turned down better offers.
     
  38. DeToxRox

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    Here is my guess for Opening Night. Locks in bold.

    Bertuzzi - Larkin - Perron
    Vrana - Copp - Raymond
    Kubalik -
    Suter - Zadina
    Rasmussen - Veleno - Sundqvist
    Erne

    Waived: Smith
    LTIR: Fabbri

    Maata - Seider
    Chiarot - Hronek (Gross)

    Edvinsson - Lindstrom
    Walman, Osterle

    Husso
    Ned

    - I think they keep the top line together but Perron provides better defense than Raymond and Raymond feeding Vrana for bombs is going to be awfully hard to pass up.

    - Veleno seems like he will need a huge camp to make the team, and if he’s only on the fourth line, he probably starts the year in GR.

    - Zadina probably gets a shot to stick in the top nine but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s traded.

    - Yzerman loves keeping 8 D so I imagine that doesn’t change.

    - We need another RHD in the worst way.
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    Yzerman didn’t have his PC yet, which makes merging we still have irons in the fire. I assume the Larkin extension gets announced soon and then he does an all encompassing PC. We shall see though.
     
  40. Vinegar Strokes

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    Do you guys really think Larkin can be a #1 C on a championship team? I think he’s a solid #2, but just don’t see him as a first line player on a championship level team.
     
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  41. The Banks

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    Do you really think he’s the ~45th best C in the league?
     
  42. Vinegar Strokes

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    Ugh, no. Do you?
     
  43. Manny

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    No, he's not transcendent enough to carry that all on his own. You need two 1Cs-ish on your team to win a 'ship imo. Could he be the 1A or 1B, if he had a equal level player centering another line? Absolutely. But if he's the only true 1C talent on the team, no. He's good, but not all world.
     
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  44. The Banks

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    No, I think he’s much better than that.
     
  45. DetroitNole

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    Larkin has shone some incredible stretches including becoming almost a point a game player last year. He's also been on some terrible teams with questionable help around him as he was developing, and I think would obviously get frustrated when we went into our awful stretches.

    I think continued maturity and improved talent around him can make him even better than what he showed last season. I've been saying ITT for about a year now, and it appears Yzerman agrees, even if we don't make the playoffs next year we have to be a lot more competitive. If not, we are risking the development of a lot of our young guys. They need to play some competitive meaningful hockey.
     
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  47. DetroitNole

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    Wings twitter feed yesterday announced signings of Copp, Kubalik, Chiarot, Perron, Luff and Czarnik. Nothing at all on Maatta. Weird