Detroit Red Wings: Priority Waste - Our Sponsor and Our Defense Core

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  1. DayDomination

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    It’s inexcusable that Edvinsson isn’t playing


    Multiple other guys that are better than Copp
     
  2. ~ taylor ~

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    Wings fans before the season: Wings really need to compete for a playoff spot this year.

    Wings on St. Patrick's Day: tenuous hold on the 8th playoff spot.

    Wings fans on St. Patrick's Day: Yzerman sucks, fire Yzerman!
     
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  3. DeToxRox

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    I mean there are currently in the midst of what might be the greatest collapse of the salary cap era and are going to enter the offseason with more questions than answers. That isn’t progress
     
  4. DetroitNole

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    I don't want Yzerman fired, but I'm definitely calling his seat warm this offseason and expect a few major moves and upgrades. Make or break for him next year.
     
  5. The Banks

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    This seems a bit hyperbolic but have no data to back it up.
     
  6. DeToxRox

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    2013 Leafs are the only team I can think of that collapsed worse. They defied their underlying #s until March, and then had an epic collapse which culminated in the Boston playoff comeback.
     
  7. lomcevak

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    Good discussion again on the Wings on one of the latest PDOcasts with Shapiro. They discussed Seider and his usage a few weeks ago and this one was more of a broad look at the team and the overall confusing construction. Worth a listen. Main points: the signings and roster decisions have been perplexing + have prevented any upward movement for young prospects + another discussion on Seider's usage and whether it will hamper his overall development moving forward.
     
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  8. The Banks

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    What was their conclusion on Seider’s development? Personally, playing the toughest minutes is the best for his development. Sure it might not be the best for his stat sheet but we don’t need that from him.
     
  9. The Banks

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    Prospect Update:

    EUROPE:

    Noah Dower Nilsson, injured, season over.
    - J20 Nationell: 3 gp, 3+1=4, -3, 2 PIM
    - SHL: 5 gp, 1+1=2, +1, 0 PIM
    - Allsvenskan: 1 gp, 0+0, +/-0, 0 PIM
    - Spengler cup: 4 gp, 1+0=1, +1, 0 PIM

    Kevin Bicker, Frankfurt will miss playoffs
    - DEL: 41 gp, 1+2=3, -5, 18 PIM (5th highest scoring U20 player)

    Dmitri Buchelnikov, Vladivostok missed playoffs
    - KHL: 55 gp, 13+16=29, -9, 8 PIM
    - VHL: 10 gp, 3+9=12, +2, 4 PIM
    - MHL: 1 gp, 1+0=1, +1, 0 PIM

    Anton Johansson, Leksands reached playoffs
    - SHL: 46 gp, 3+5=8, +3, 16 PIM (13th highest scoring U20 player, 4th highest scoring U20 D)
    - J20 Nationell: 1 gp, 0+0, -1, 0 PIM

    Maximilian Kilpinen
    - J20 Nationell: 42 gp, 21+27=48, +15, 35 PIM
    - SHL: 2 gp, 0+0, +/-0, 0 PIM
    - Allsvenskan: 3 gp, 0+0, +/-0, 0 PIM

    Liam Dower Nilsson, Björklöven reached playoffs
    - Allsvenskan: 52 gp, 12+15=27, +4, 10 PIM

    Theodor Niederbach, MoDo missed playoffs
    - SHL: 47 gp, 6+7=13, -15, 31 PIM

    NCAA:

    Trey Augustine, 32 gp, 21-8-2, 3 SO, 0.919 SV%, 2.86 GAA

    Brady Cleveland, 16 gp, 0+0, -3, 19 PIM

    Dylan James, 38 gp, 9+10=19, +13, 10 PIM

    Owen Mehlenbacher, 25 gp, 1+2=3, +4, 8 PIM

    Brennan Ali, 36 gp, 3+10=13, +3, 4 PIM

    Shai Buium, 37 gp, 7+24=31, +26, 14 PIM

    Red Savage, 35 gp, 10+16=26, +11, 10 PIM

    Sam Stange, 7 gp, 0+0, -2, 4 PIM

    Kyle Aucoin, 8 gp, 0+1=1, -4, 6 PIM

    Kienan Draper, 33 gp, 4+8=12, +6, 22 PIM

    Chase Bradley, 31 gp, 11+11=22, +4, 53 PIM

    Cooper Moore, 36 gp, 3+19=22, +26, 26 PIM

    Carter Gyrlander, 32 gp, 14-14-4, 0 SO, 0.901 SV%, 2.93 GAA

    Ryan O'Reilly, 37 gp, 9+6=15, +10, 18 PIM

    OHL:

    Andrew Gibson, 65 gp, 11+30=41, +39, 56 PIM

    Tnias Mathurin, 47 gp, 3+12=15, +25, 26 PIM

    WHL:

    Emmit Finnie, 59 gp, 18+39=57, -21, 26 PIM

    USHL:

    Jack Phelan, 36 gp, 1+6=7, +1, 37 PIM

    Rudy Guimond, 26 gp, 12-9-3, 0 SO, 0.871 SV%, 3.65 GAA

    BCHL:

    Larry Keenan, 49 gp, 5+22=27, 20 PIM
     
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  10. Manny

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    Memes aside it's amazing that Draper has become useful player for UM.
     
  11. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yikes. Brady Cleveland sucks. Wasn’t he a 2nd round pick?
     
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  12. Manny

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    Him and James were cringe picks from the jump. And not like end of the 2nd swings they were 40th and 47th picks.
     
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  13. DeToxRox

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  14. DeToxRox

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    Sounds like Holl is also playing.
     
  15. lomcevak

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    You should listen to it. About the first 25 minutes of the podcast. It was more of a thought experiment (and indictment of the roster as currently constructed). They were merely wondering if we'll look back in 5-10 years and be like "oof, maybe the historically difficult deployment and usage Seider got wasn't good for him." Essentially they said there is no way to predict with any certainly, but it's worth asking given the monumentally difficult task he's been given. Short term (clawing into the playoffs) vs long term outlook (both Seider and the team at large)
     
  16. DeToxRox

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    Didn’t expect him to sign. Adds nice depth.
     
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  17. The Banks

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    Does Buium sign or wait to see where his brother goes?
     
  18. DeToxRox

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    I think he probably signs but I’d put it at 65-70%.
     
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  19. The Banks

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    Cooking in GR for three years can’t be appealing.
     
  20. Lip

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    Grand Rapids is a nice town
     
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  21. DeToxRox

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    This team gets out-chanced horribly every game. It’s insane how much more talent the roster needs to compete.
     
  22. MG2

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    I am at the point that I would like to volunteer to just give the other team a 2-goal lead and start with the 2nd period because watching us give up these early goals to create a deficit every damn night is sucking the life out of me as a fake hockey fan.
     
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  23. DeToxRox

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    Your wish is Columbus command
     
  24. hoss2183

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    Truly embarrassing. I hope they clean house this off season as much as humanly possible.
     
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  25. Vinegar Strokes

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  26. hoss2183

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    I’d fire Lalonde in the locker room right now
     
  27. DeToxRox

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    I am indifferent to him but this is pathetic enough that heads should roll.
     
  28. Vinegar Strokes

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    Hire Sergei?
     
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  29. DayDomination

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  30. DeToxRox

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    At this point I would just hire Berube. Love me some Chief.
     
  31. DeToxRox

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    If Raymond isn’t scoring we aren’t scoring
     
  32. DayDomination

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    Raymond is such fucking gamer
     
  33. DetroitNole

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    I mean your options are try something or let this go on until end of season. Not saying this is all Lalonde fault, but he's done nothing to deserve to keep his job
     
  34. DeToxRox

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    Lalonde does some stuff I like but it feels like he lost the team. That’s what you can’t have.
     
  35. DeToxRox

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    As bad as our team defense is, we don’t have any players as bad as Gudbranson, so that’s a win.
     
  36. Vinegar Strokes

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    We’re back baby.
     
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  37. The Banks

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    Wizard
     
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  38. DetroitNole

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    Also what's the point of keeping Berggren up and healthy scratching him? Send him back down if you aren't playing him
     
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  39. Vinegar Strokes

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    doesn’t he have to stay up at this point now? Although I doubt they give a shit if they lose him via waivers.
     
  40. DeToxRox

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    One more game played
     
  41. DeToxRox

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    Raymond just had such a ridiculous shift.
     
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  42. DeToxRox

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    Rasmussen has been taking some stupid penalties.
     
  43. The Banks

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    Trying to keep pace with Perron
     
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  44. Lip

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    Perron at least adds the bonus of being the slowest forward in the league
     
  45. DetroitNole

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    Team desperately needs a goal and we got czarnik on the ice multiple shifts last 4 minutes.
     
  46. DeToxRox

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    Raymond is just the best
     
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  48. DetroitNole

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    The Lucas Raymond star coming out party is the only bright spot recently. What a stud
     
  49. DayDomination

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    Sign him to that 8 year deal now
     
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