Friend of my wife’s on this shit after her second pregnancy. She had some postpartum depression and was having trouble losing weight as quickly as she’d prefer. Well, she’s lost a bunch of weight, butwas never obese to begin with, just mommy fats in a normal way. She’s also training x2/day and posts constantly on IGnabout how hard she’s working out but doesn’t acknowledge she’s taking drugs which is highly irritating to anyone in the know. Seems like it’s helped remove the postpartum stuff and morphed into a completely different mental health issue. This shit seems to be everywhere now and being prescribed like crazy.
probably the most promising drug class in a while. impact on diabetes/heart disease/addiction/etc is crazy.
It's already abused by for weight loss to the point that insurance won't cover it unless it's explicitly for diabetes/heart disease treatment
I'm a trustee for our VEBA and was literally told this by Blue Cross. They classify ozempic rx for weight loss as a lifestyle drug like you would viagra and will not cover it. Maybe it's something specific with our VEBA but it's the truth
my point was its not all the GLP-1 drugs that are excluded, Ozempic has never been approved for weight loss
Big Pharma has the medical community by the balls. They’re working to convince doctors that obesity should be treated as a disease the same way we look at diabetes. I’m not going to opine if that’s appropriate or not, but these of medications are highly effective and seemingly safe. How insurance companies, or government payers, decide where they draw the line between high priced drugs and limiting the long term consequences of obesity is going to be very interesting to watch. It all smells a little like how the opioid crisis started. As far as we know now, there aren’t long term risks of these drugs, though we were convinced if the same with opioids for too long.
if we're operating off what we know the savings will be comically higher than any cost especially as it's basically a generic drug combination iirc
Is that what this shit costs? There has to be a cheaper way through Canada or some shit right? Asking for a friend.
I'm currently lookin into it Zepbound is $1060 per 4 weeks. without it getting approved. My dr has prescribed it to multiple people and only one has had it approved by insurance
I am prediabetic and overweight so my Dr. asked me if I wanted to see if my insurance would cover this as a way to potentially “get ahead” of the diabetic part before its full on Type 2. Anyways my insurance requires “pre authorization” and he told me they won’t even bother filling out the forms for insurance companies anymore because they never approve the pre-auth so it’s just a waste of time for him and his staff. My GF who has neither of my issues somehow got it prescribed and her insurance covers it. She’s lost like 70lbs in the past year. But she wonders how long until it changes and won’t be covered.
It truly is a miracle drug. Beyond weight loss, its helping people to get over addictions. weight loss is like 30% of its real potential
You can get it from a non doctor for much cheaper. Like 200 bucks a month. Med spas are starting to offer them and shit. I don’t use it but you can get it from hims now
Yeah I don’t see why prescribing it to someone who wants to lose 20-30 lbs is gonna prove helpful. Do people balloon back up to their prior weight after they stop like pretty much every other diet fad/suppression meds?
https://archive.ph/93Las there are chronic illness sufferers and similar types out there who finally have something to live for with this. I read the above article, it was really interesting
My wife lost 60lbs in 10 months she started 6 weeks after baby 2. Insurance covered it all She’s at her high school weight, looks incredible. She always looked good though. She really just wanted to get rid of the baby body that plagues moms. Way cheaper than a mommy makeover and no surgery I suspect she we will do it again in the future but she only has regained 5 lbs in the 3 months since coming off. She’s eating better overall and is way more determined to not let the weight sneak back on Highly recommend
i cant imagine i would get approved, though its possible, but it would be really great to cut out the nicotine and food addictions.
Clinical obesity has increased by over 50% since 2000 and tripled since 1980. Obesity is an epidemic of massive proportions, pun intended. Severe times call for severe measures. This country is literally eating its way to ruin, and it's costing those of us who are thin an arm and a leg in healthcare costs, insurance premiums, etc. I'm all for any means to make Ozempic cheap and widespread (provided its long-term health).
Try hims or noom even offers it. Even like three months of it would be life changing. It is not hard to get approved and they just mail it to you
I'll also add that I love it when an overweight person complains about socialized healthcare. You know, how they shouldn't have to pay for those who can't afford healthcare on their own. All I want is to point at their fat gut and say the reason I pay so much for my healthcare and insurance is because obese people are so damn expensive to treat, especially as they near an early death.
Nothing quite like the extremes of seeing huge medical advances on one side and the complete destruction of all goodwill from big pharma on the other
Heck, the chart already needs a new color, if not two. Some states are over 40% and might even be knocking on 45%.
GLP-1s for weight loss are nothing short of a game changer, in a way that's never existed in weight medicine besides gastric bypass. Insurance and supply chain bottlenecks will ease up in years ahead. Flood gates are just now opening. Equating these drugs to opioid gtfo that's ridiculous. "Lifestyle drugs like viagra" gmafb. Anyone talking about willpower in 2024 please exit conversation.
I mean. Isn't it essentially preventative care? Oh. You're 34 and have been 295 for the last decade, here let's give you this drug test essentially tricks you into being full, you'll lose a boat load of weight and stop massive consumption of future HC costs.
Not fully after a year. Maybe some other studies out there. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9542252/
A lot of confusion about what's "covered" n stuff n stuff. Some clarification: GLP1 agonists are a class of drugs initially used in the treatment of type 2 diabetes. With further research, they've shown impressive benefits in cardioprotection and weight loss. These drugs have been in common use for over a decade. They are not new. The data on its use specifically for weight loss in people withOUT diabetes is what's new. Large, reptoducible studies with impressive,if expected, weight benefit. Ozempic and wegovy are both formulations of sameglp1 agonist drug, called semaglutide. Only the wegovy formulation is FDA approved for weightloss outside diabetes. Some insurance plans will cover it for that,many still will not. None will cover Ozempic strictly for weight loss, cuz is still only FFA labeled for diabetes. Zepbound is the newer one. It's basically a glp with a little more action, and perhaps some superiority to wegovy in terms of weight loss. It's a formulation of the drug tirzepitide, the other formulation of this is Mounjaro, which, like Ozempic, is only labeled for diabetes right now. Hth
I’m not sure what you mean about the generic drug combo, the best GLPs are under patent for a least another decade. I reference opioid crisis only to compare calling pain the 5th vital sign, and the lengths Pharma went through to get widespread acceptance. I’m not implying the will abused in the same way.
couple people i know have bought the larger dosage one and just giving themselves the regular small dosage that they were on. think it's 2 ml (mg?) in the large dosage and 0.5 in the small. so it's still expensive but lasts 4 months instead of 1
CPG companies/grocers are forecasting lower demand in the years ahead for their shit food products based on the widespread acceptance of these meds