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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Apr 8, 2015.
I mean how?
I do more Plaintiff work than Defense.
I just emailed the CEO and asked them if they wanted to team up in MS. I see more and more things like this or large national or regional outfits that will basically find one lawyer in a state and run all their cases through them. It can be an opportunity to generate business.
100%. Colossal waste of everyones time
this is going to be spectacularly bad and end up creating a bunch of terrible law about the relationships between plaintiffs firms and doctors.
And defense lawyers will blow it the fuck up.
We ever have a discussion in this thread about medical lien companies like Marrick? You plaintiff attorneys use them often?
I have some associates in my office who hand write their time or type it into a Word document and then have their assistants enter it into our system. It blows my mind. It take less effort to record your time contemporaneously in the time keeping software.
What the fuck am I supposed to do about it?
Why are you still working
Because broke ass plaintiff's lawyers are emailing me about their checks.
I'm in an all day 40 exhibit plaintiff's depo in jasper florida that my boss dumped on my last second because she wanted to go on vacation.
This case is an absolute dog that we should have dropped 3 years ago.
I can't remember if yall do plaintiff or defense work.
In terms of getting a check to me, I ask every time if they'll let me send them my fed ex label so that it will be overnighted and we'll have tracking. US Mail just runs so slow now.
This was UPS and I gave them the tracking #. The carrier sent it. I am not at all involved in this transaction. She also called me after the quoted email.
Plaintiffs employment with a marginal amount of PI. Some civil rights too.
I work for an insane person who takes virtually any case no matter how obviously bad.
If this person ever happens to be me, just know that my wife probably just went on a shopping spree and maxed out our credit card, and I desperately need to take a draw.
Tegg is dealing with one of those plaintiff lawyers (and they aren't a rare breed) with maxed out credit lines that have already spent and/or owe the entire contingency fee on a case before the check even comes in . They are up the carrier's ass to get the check because they need it to pay off the bank/creditor etc. Sounds like a miserable existence.
Not much better on a fine July 5th then a total bust of a mediation on a wrongful death. Already mediated this case once, set for trial in September in the most plaintiff's friendly venue in the state, and carrier would need to, at least, come up with 3x what they've got here today to get this settled.
And this was their idea.
Just accepted a referral to open up an estate to effectuate a WD settlement in Oregon for a nice little chunk of change.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
One of the biggest billboard lawyers in my city got his porsche repossessed while he was at a mediation.
Same guy later (allegedly) took a huge personal loan out after getting a 4 million dollar verdict only to have the verdict overturned on appeal about 3 months later.
I think I might start doing this
I'd say at least 50% of the time they'll do it.
I always tell Pltf Counsel the check has to be sent to our office because I can bill:
0.1 - Reviewed receipt of settlement check/correspondence re: same
0.2 - Prepared ltr to Pltf Counsel re: settlement check/formally concluding matter
And if I'm feeling froggy:
0.2 - Reviewed file to ensure all experts and appropriate parties have been informed of settlement/no tasks left outstanding
That shit adds up over a year.
Around the time I left the defense practice, the carriers I worked for started cutting all those entries and designated them as clerical. F insurance companies.
Yep. Anything like initial acknowledgment letters to the carrier and client, any “enclosed please find” cover letters, things like cover letters sending settlement checks, etc. and don’t even get me started on bullshit like not being allowed to charge for reading a depo transcript more than once before trial.
Shit, "review" and "prepare" are flagged words for a lot of carriers' auditing software. You have to say shit like "Obtained and analyzed for the first time written communication from Plaintiff's counsel concerning finalization of settlement" and "Composition of written communication to Plaintiff's counsel regarding issuance of payment pursuant to terms of settlement agreement."
My wife had some billing rejected in June because the client had not yet uploaded the agreed 2022 billing rates into its system. There’s no appeal/resubmission process, so those hours are lost forever. Is that kind of shit normal? Because honestly it seems like theft of services to me.
Typically, there's an appeal process. But, I can't say I'm surprised. Even when you do appeal something, they often just pay a portion of it.
wasn’t even a dispute about whether the work was billable (there usually is). Just $10,000 that they decided they’re not gonna pay because they didn’t do something.
Yeah, that's some bullshit. The problem the lawyer has, though, is that they can pull the rest of the work if you complain too much. It sucks.
If the firm chooses to eat the fees, they shouldn’t count it against your wife.
I think she’ll get to count the hours in terms of her hours target (although they’re weird about written off hours), but she’s a partner and realization rate matters
It's extremely depressing that they can steal that much and you still have to fall on your knees and beg them not to leave.
*insert my previous rant about oversupply of lawyers and the nature of the industry*
This is why I could never manage a firm, I’d drop them as a client for that.
Sounds like some bush league bullshit to me
A lot of insurance defense is just a race to the bottom, especially for the carriers that primarily issue smaller policies.
An absolute racket.
I actually found out on thursday that geico shuttered the staff counsel office where I worked and laid off everyone with no warning. Apparently they did that state-wide.
Guess they've figured out they can just keep abusing fee counsel and make it even cheaper than their staff counsel operation.
Congrats on getting out in time
State Farm is trending that way in Texas. They’re getting almost everyone to agree to flat fees and once they’ve taken care of that I have to think they’ll close their in house offices
I'd do their cases for a flat fee as long as they understand that I'm going to do a terrible job.
Just wrapped up the worst project of my career last week that was basically my full time job from March - July 1, have 4~8 weeks' worth of work to catch up on, and have a few other potential engagements gaining traction (and if all end up moving forward, I'll be under water). Colleague emailed me asking me for an hourly rate to put on a pitch deck for a proposal of his own, and I told him a number that was lower than I would have preferred under the circumstances. His response was, "if you really want to go with that high of a rate, you'll probably be excluded from the pitch deck."
I ain't trying to race to the bottom to compete on hourly rates, brah.
I don't know what a pitch deck is, but it sounds like consultant gobbly gook.
Not sure how this guy found me but last week a dude emailed our office saying he had a signed settlement agreement for like 150k after he was fired and I guess threatened the company that fired him and they offered 150k as some sort of settlement. They were supposed to pay by January but never did.
I told the guy I would charge 10% of whatever I recover, and it sounds like I’ll have the check next week after a couple phone calls. Will be the easiest 15k I’ll ever make and the client is thrilled to be getting his money and thinks 10% is a bargain
hi yes, I would enjoy an easy 15k to fall into my lap