November 2012 TMB Book Club Selection: The Passage by Justin Cronin

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  1. Arkie Proud

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  2. The Blackfish

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    Looking forward to it
     
  3. Iron Mickey

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    Hell yeah. I'm about halfway through the first Tony Hillerman book (The Blessing Way). I'm rocking a kindle; shall I PM you?
     
  4. Gin Buckets

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    The Passage... (not a spoiler, but spoiling for good measure)

    Vampires meet the apocalypse meets the Contagion -- that is why I read the book, because a friend described it as such.
     
  5. Voodoo

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    Well that sounds fun.
     
  6. Iron Mickey

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    Bart Scott can't wait.
     
  7. Truman

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    It's 12:30 which officially makes it November - so im starting the discussion.

    Read Chapters 1-3 tonight:

    I dont have really anything important to say as the first three chapters are just setting the table. I like the writing style and the dialog reads pretty easy.

    Not important spoiler in Chapter 3
    :loldog: at Jenna Bush being Governer of TX. Isnt she the slutty one?

    Unless its blatantly stated, and I missed it. My Guess Chapter 3 takes place in late 2020s, maybe 30s? The Jenna Bush as GOV is what im basing this off of. That would put her in her late 40s, early 50s

    Do Chapter 1 and 2 take place relatively close to that?
     
  8. Gin Buckets

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    FTR since it's a trilogy it starts slower than a lot of books because it does a good job of setting up the whole story and world. If you can make it through the beginning the book gets exponentially better imo.
     
  9. colonelrascals

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    Just finishing up chapter three. Anthony Lloyd Carter allegedly killed a women in my neighborhood...what a motherfucker. Also this author has to be from houston
     
  10. colonelrascals

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    Also I just learned that Justin Cronin is a professor a rice. (which explains his knowledge of houston) I'll make contact and see if he wants to join TMB
     
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  11. Arkie Proud

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    Wait until after this month and his book is behind us. He may get pissed if he sees the proliferation of his ebook all piratey and shit. Writers are like that...
     
  12. colonelrascals

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    Clearly we will have to edit the piracy out once he joins TMB, but in all seriousness he is an english teacher at rice if I set up an appointment later in the month maybe he could answer some questions. He is a young guy and I dont see why not, it be like TMBBC's own AMA.
     
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    As cool as that would be, I think more harm than good could come from it. Plus, Im sure he is really busy. The second book just came out. Im sure he is traveling AND im sure he is involved in the movie that is being made
     
  14. colonelrascals

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    Dont you kill me drunk dreams Truman
     
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  15. Gin Buckets

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    Movie you say?
     
  16. colonelrascals

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    I am about to finish chapter 9. Good shit so far
     
  17. LKRFN88jp

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    Three chapters in and already hooked. Knew the basic premise of the book, but the start really caught me off guard in how it's been done. But that's been a good thing. Can't wait to read more.
     
  18. SmoochieWallace

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    I read three chapters last night and it feels like a World War Z rip off. I hope I am wrong.
     
  19. Truman

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    I haven't read WWZ so it's all new to me.

    Through chapter 5 places are still being set, but I like it so far. Cronin does a great job of charachter dev
     
  20. colonelrascals

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    just finished part 1

    :ohholkyfuck: at chapter 14. Whats y'alls opinions on why Amy is so important, I figured since she was the final phase of the virus she would be the most dangerous. That doesn't seem to be the case :idk:. Hopefully cronin can shed some light on all this telepathic communication
     
  21. Arkie Proud

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    I think this is much better written that WWZ.
    Through Chapter 3:
    I usually don't like books that jump around too much (see Atlas, Cloud), but even though the first three chapters have been about totally different people and places, I'm loving this. The guys writing really draws you in. You actually care about these people. I was sad at the end of chapter 1 for the young mom and her daughter. Early on, I'm giving it a 8.75/10. And holy fuck at it being 800+ pages. Didn't think it was that long...
     
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    Agree with this completely. After each chapter I was bummed to leave those characters, then I got fully immersed in the next set of them. Great start.
     
  23. colonelrascals

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    you guys are wayyy behind
     
  24. Arkie Proud

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    Streets behind.
     
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  25. colonelrascals

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    I'll be through part II tonight, yay firefighter school for giving me free fridays
     
  26. Arkie Proud

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    Read some more last night and I am really digging this book. It is taking turns I did not expect, but while many writers would use these "reveals" as tools to make the book better, this writer uses his writing style to draw you in. To that end, he doesn't seem campy or overly dramatic, even when normally it would. He's good.

    Also, (past chapter 4)
    I love the little hints (at first) then the larger hints that something is amiss in the world and that it takes place in our near future, while one would think at first that it takes place now (if that makes any sense). Governor Jenna Bush of Florida was a nice touch. New Orleans no longer being a real city since the second big hurricane hit after Katrina. Really, really liking this.
     
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  27. The Blackfish

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    Can't wait to start
     
  28. SmoochieWallace

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    Finished chapter 6. I withdraw my previous comment. This shit is good
     
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  29. Kevintensity

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    started reading yesterday. About 25% finished.
    Really like it so far.

    amy just opened her eyes. Feels like all hell is about to break loose.
    i hope it does
     
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    Still haven't finished my other book but I will soon. Excited to start and it seems like more people are reading it this month which is great
     
  31. colonelrascals

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    I am only a little further than you.

    the jump in time was strange, and I'm not sure where they are going with it.
     
  32. Kevintensity

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    yeah no idea. All I can think about while reading about this colony is what happened to amy. not really interested in this colony.
     
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  33. colonelrascals

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    I'm going to push through part 3 and 4 maybe tonight
     
  34. Iron Mickey

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    Just now getting started. Gotta do work.

    Loved the opening quote, hated the first line.

    :justsayin:
     
  35. Arkie Proud

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    It gets better.
     
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  36. Iron Mickey

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    Liking it a lot better so far. Will devour tonight.
     
  37. Truman

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    Just finished 14/ Part 1

    This is the best book Ive read in a long time so far. Really enjoy it.

    I think she turns out to be the heroine. From the first line of the book:

    "Before she became the Girl from Nowhere—the One Who Walked In, the First and Last and Only, who lived a thousand years—she was just a little girl in Iowa, named Amy. Amy Harper Bellafonte."

    IDK but that sounds like she is going to end up saving the day - or not. Who knows. Just cant wait to find out.
     
  38. Kevintensity

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    I have a question. doesn't need a spoiler, but making one just in case.
    What is a walker, and how is it different than a full fledged zombie or viral?
     
  39. Truman

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    Yay Travel Days. Finished Part II
    R.I.P. Special Agent Dan Wolgast :tebow:

    Cronin is a great writer. Ive really felt attached to these characters. The way he wrote Carter, Amy, Amy's Mom and Wolgast is so touching.

    And Part III
    Didnt really care for this part. I dont know why. Its a creative delivery method but it was anoying to read for some reason.

    Also - The entry shows 1003 A.V. (im assuming AV= After Virus) Are we to assume this was written 1000 years after the Colorado incident and that Wolgast/Amy story? To me this seems like somethign that would happen just a few years at most after all that.

    I assume I will get my answer as I read on, but that is the big question I have at the moment.
     
  40. The Blackfish

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    Finished my other book. Starting this later tonight. Very excite
     
  41. Dwight Schrute

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    Wait are we reading just the first book or the whole trilogy? Either way, I'm going to hop back in this book club since it first started. Hells yeah.
     
  42. Truman

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    For now, its just the first book.

    And FYI - the second book was just published a month or two ago, so you will have to wait to read the whole trilogy.
     
  43. Arkie Proud

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  44. LKRFN88jp

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    Hey Arkie Proud, do you have a .mobi of the second book yet? Obviously enjoying the first one so I'll be wanting that if you do :peekaboo: tia
     
  45. Truman

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    i do. pm me
     
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  46. Arkie Proud

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    I think so, yeah. But hit up Truman. :like:
     
  47. colonelrascals

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    I would also like one. Also as much as I am loving the book, I think we should wait a month or two before reading the second one
     
  48. Iron Mickey

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    This book is fucking awesome.

    I was called Fanning.
     
  49. LKRFN88jp

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    Have a few chapters left in part 1. Will be finishing that tonight and moving on to part 2. Continue to love this book. Will give spoilered thoughts on part 1 as a whole when I finish it.
     
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    So yea, I haven't been able to put this down. Just finished part 1.

    Loving it so far. Everything is tying together well. From what I gather the virus was first discovered when the group of cancer patients were taken to La Paz as a make a wish type thing and were attacked by the bats. The survivors became super healthy but then died. Lear became aware of this and started obsessing over the Thalmus gland because of his recently deceased wife. On their expedition they were attacked by the bats and also upon reaching the site they were attacked by the "vampires" who I assume were the rest of the "make a wish" expedition (calling it that because I don't have anything better to call it.

    Upon being rescued, Fanning flipped and became Zero. From him they began studying the virus and infecting death row inmates in an attempt to reactivate a human's Thalmus gland and make us super healthy (possibly immortal) without turning us into "vampires."

    The Special Weapons unit however wanted to create an army of these "vampire things" I guess.

    Just trying to straighten out the origin of the NOAH project, sound about right to yall?

    Random Thoughts:

    -Amy is obviously still a big mystery. It seems like Lear just wanted any child since the thalmus gland in a child was more active than an adult and that happened to coincide with the time Amy was found. So it was all a coincidence right? They had no idea she was special when they targeted her right?

    -Now whats up with animals knowing "what she is" re: Amy

    -Lacey getting signals from "God?"

    -Did Richards remind anyone else of Bill Smoke from Cloud Atlas?

    -I wonder if Amy's mother ever shows back up? I would assume no.

    -Do people bitten or infected by the "vampires" turn? Seems like they might, why else would Richards have been thinking those things about Sykes and why did Zero just bite Grey once on the neck not killing him