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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Gin Buckets, Apr 10, 2015.
Looks like the Matta thing was real so y’all prepared for Mike Woodson?
how the fuck is this even possible
We’re a football school now
Offhand, does anyone have access to this article? It’s probably clickbait but I’m interested in what Doyel’s Scott Drew story is.
crying about the HMP stuff
INDIANAPOLIS – You knew this would happen, right? IU basketball didn’t make it into the 2021 NCAA Men’s Tournament, didn’t come close to making it, but is overshadowing the event anyway. It’s the IU coach search, obviously, hovering above March Madness ghoulishly, almost cartoonishly, tickling fantasies and stoking rumors and in general serving as the subplot to almost every game in the Sweet 16.
Check the schedule Saturday. It starts at Bankers Life Fieldhouse at 2:40 p.m., when IU dream hire Porter Moser leads Loyola Chicago against Oregon State. Next game, at Hinkle Fieldhouse at 5:15 p.m., is Villanova against Baylor, coached by alleged IU target Scott Drew.
Then it’s back to Bankers Life for Oral Roberts against Arkansas, coached by another IU dream hire, Eric Musselman. We close the night at Hinkle, where Syracuse will play Houston, coached by, you know, him. Kelvin Sampson. The last coach to win big enough to keep the IU job forever, but who couldn’t control his cell-phone habit and was fired during his second season.
Four games, four coaches embedded in the IU psyche.
Then comes Sunday, when Michigan plays Florida State at Bankers Life Fieldhouse, representing not just the Big Ten that IU once dominated, but the fantasies of Bob Knight hard-liners. They see Juwan Howard descending from the NBA to win at his alma mater and just assume — because if one apple is red, all apples must be red, even if that other apple looks more like an orange — an IU alum like Mike Woodson would do the same in Bloomington.
Also Sunday, we get rumored — maybe even real — IU targets Nate Oats of Alabama and Mick Cronin of UCLA at Hinkle Fieldhouse. Sorry, it’s Oats versus Cronin.
Don’t tell me IU has been left out of the 2021 NCAA Tournament.
IU is dominating the damn thing.
Brad Stevens to ... Thad Matta?
I’ll tell you whose fault this is not: IU athletic director Scott Dolson, who is conducting his search without a search firm, which means there are no leaks. Nobody has the faintest idea what Dolson is doing.
We don’t know, for a fact, that he even called the Boston Celtics’ Brad Stevens to gauge his interest. He better have called, but all we know for sure is that Stevens is flattered by the attention back home, but not coming back. That doesn’t stop people from emailing me with the terms of the contract Stevens rejected, terms they heard from a booster who that has only the best information, trust me, and this guy’s usually right and…
And stop. Just stop. For the love of God, stop. I’m a reporter, OK? Been at this 30 years, most of it focused on college basketball. I have Scott Dolson on speed dial and am in regular contact with a half-dozen former IU players and managers, including some connected to Dolson since he was an IU manager in 1987 … and I don’t know anything. It’s OK to admit that, you understand? Strong people admit weaknesses. Show me someone with all the answers, and I’ll show you someone without a clue.
Some advice on this specific search: Believe nothing unless it has a name attached to it, a name willing to be publicly scorned for promising a fact that turns out to be fiction. There’s a reason you’re hearing silliness about IU’s search, couched only in the blandest of terms by people with actual names, or said with assurance only from anonymous sources: Because nobody has any idea. But just in case someone heard something that might turn out to be true, they want credit. So they spread it, like fertilizer.
Mike Woodson wants the job. Isiah Thomas really wants it. Thad Matta is the frontrunner!
Stop. Stop. Stop.
Matta will get this job only after it’s turned down by 37 people, me included. And I’m not turning it down.
GREGG DOYEL IS IU’S NEXT COACH!!!
Sure. Run with that.
Porter Moser, Scott Drew not coming
Here’s what I think:
If Porter Moser leaves Loyola, he’d leave for Marquette. Truth be told, Marquette is a better job than IU. Ask Tom Crean. He went to a Final Four at Marquette. Got fired at IU.
Marquette pays more than IU, has better amenities — Marquette throws money at basketball like you wouldn’t believe — and is a private Jesuit school. So is Loyola. And Marquette is just 80 miles from Loyola. Moser might not even have to move to take that job.
And know this: Moser is no sure-thing winner anywhere he goes. He was fired at Illinois State in 2007 with a 51-67 record in four years. He understands, like Mark Few understands at Gonzaga, that sometimes the fit is everything. When you find someplace special, you don’t leave. Moser grew up in Chicago, attended a private Catholic high school and played for a Jesuit college (Creighton). He fits at Loyola. He’d fit at Marquette. Would he fit at IU? Do you really think he’s going to find out?
Now then, Scott Drew.
There are IU fans who want Drew here. If that’s not you, terrific. For everyone else, here’s why the idea is not just ludicrous, but offensive:
The NCAA found the Baylor men’s basketball program committed major infractions under Scott Drew's watch, suspending him for two Big 12 games for a failure to monitor his staff. One assistant, Mark Morefield, was given a one-year suspension by the NCAA for all manners of malfeasance regarding the recruitment of a Colombian-born recruit named Hanner Mosquera-Perea, who played at La Lumiere School in LaPorte, Indiana. Morefield reportedly sent text messages to his prep school and AAU coaches asking them to mislead the NCAA, and reportedly threatened a La Lumiere coach that Mosquera-Perea would be deported if he didn’t sign with Baylor.
That story broke in October 2010. To that point, Scott Drew was someone I spoke with regularly. He does that, checking in with certain media people, playing the game. He called me late one night, after I’d posted a story at CBSSports.com about his shenanigans and had written the words, “Shut up, Scott Drew.”
So Scott Drew calls me that night, wanting to know why I’d turned on him. I remind him that Mark Morefield suggested Baylor would have Mosquera-Perea deported if he didn’t sign with the Bears. Drew chuckles nervously, as he does, and tells me he can’t discuss an NCAA investigation.
Tell me this, I say. Is the report false? Scott Drew says: No.
I say something like: “That happened several months ago; is Mark Morefield still on your staff?”
Drew says: Yes.
“Shut up, Scott Drew,” I said, and hung up on him. Haven’t spoken to him since.
Hanner Mosquera-Perea ended up at IU, of course.
Scott Drew isn’t coming here.
Who is coming to IU? We’ll find out soon enough. Tony Bennett and John Beilein are available right now. So is Michigan State assistant Dane Fife, an IU alum from its 2002 NCAA finalist. So are Mike Woodson, Randy Wittman and (giggle) Isiah Thomas.
Anyone else who makes sense for IU to pursue – Musselman and Oats, mainly – is playing in the NCAA Tournament, right here in Indianapolis, less than 60 miles from an IU program whose relevance often is debated, but really can’t be anymore. Not with the 2021 NCAA Tournament being dominated by a team that hasn’t played in one of these things since 2016.
Armaan Franklin, Parker Stewart, and Race Thompson all to the transfer portal.
in better news the soccer team smoked Northwestern to avenge their only loss of the season
I think they’re all waiting to see the hire. A home run hire gets them all back
2 goals allowed in 7 contests. I want to beat Michigan obviously but god I want to stomp Maryland
Well it's going to be Mike Woodson so...
I wish them well at their next school
I'm guessing you're not getting that from anyone directly and are going off media reports?
There were reports that it was Matta and Woodson but the university said it wasn't true.
Betting money is on Woodson too FWIW
My excitement level on that
That would be an F--------- hire
I'd rather have Sister Jean
Nothing like a full rebuild for the second time in a decade, but I guess that happens for girls bob,soccer, football school
of the top five, Beard and Beilein would be pretty amazing. But the past few days have made me confident it's gonna be someone reflective of our place in the current college basketball landscape
if it's Fife, woof
Mike Woodson 4/1
Thad Matta 9/2
Chris Beard 5/1
Dane Fife 6/1
John Beilein 6/1
Porter Moser 15/2
Eric Musselman 8/1
Dana Altman 9/1
Scott Drew 10/1
Joe Pasternack 12/1
Chris Mack 14/1
Mick Cronin 14/1
Andy Enfield 16/1
Mike Young 16/1
Bobby Hurley 25/1
Calbert Cheaney 33/1
Billy Donovan 50/1
Calbert Cheaney might be my favorite IU player ever, loved watching him seemingly score at will as a kid, but he genuinely interviewed for the job? Really? That’s where the program is?
This has been a shit show. You had to think they had someone earmarked. That's why they moved so quickly to fire. Maybe it was Matta, but now they are in scramble mode and it's embarrassing. This will be the third rebuild since Knight. They may not come back from another bad hire.
I’m still holding out hope that this is all just posturing/due diligence while they wait for the real target(s) to finish out their seasons
Same, but nothing feels that way. I am usually wrong, so we have that going for us.
Please take Mike White? Please?
My favorite line in this is, "Howard was probably a better NBA player". Probably?
The ladies are 2.5 favorites according to the betting lines
Starting to think it might be Moser given the delay in announcement. Especially now with Marquette hiring Shaka
BOOM baby right off the bat in 2OT we get a fantastic goal to beat Michigan 1-0 and improve to 7-1 on the season. Wow
that was a huge win
Too much in-state talent for IU to be down for an extended period of time.
hoping to be happy here soon, but prepared to just bask in the beauty of our campus and success of our Olympic and women's sports
Well go WBB and Men's Soccer
I’m in stunned disbelief at how bad this hire is
Bottom line no one wants to be coach at IU. Maybe he can do okay and get some kind of foundation built. Hopefully his NBA background means a new approach to offense
Lmao the Arizona St football model basically, hire a HC with minimal college experience and do weird administrative things around him
Need BuffaLouie's to-go bags filled with cash
Excited to see the offense next year built around the three white dudes that decided to stay
Says it all