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  1. NilesIrish

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    I was certain Jon was getting his dragon after climbing from the water, then. Benjen and his flaming mace. Holy fuck.
     
  2. NilesIrish

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    "we have to do with what we've got" I lost it.
     
  3. Handcuffed

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    I'm going to hate for a minute:

    - Everything about Winterfell right now is weird/bad. Arya's story about Ned watching her shoot was nice. And then she became a psycho with shit dialogue and lame conflict.
    - It sure is convenient that the dragons came just in time, right? That sure seems to happen a lot recently. And only one of the seven died? They wouldn't even kill off Tormund?!
    - A zombie bear is more vicious than 50 zombie soldiers. One of those things would have won the fight. And where were the giants we saw in one of the earlier visions this season?
    - Why is Jon sailing to KL (I assume) now? I figured Dany would leave him once it was clear he was alive and then summon him.
    - They actually captured a wight and they're going to march to KL. I hate this fucking plan. I'm assuming Jaime is going to be surprised at the violation of the truce by Cersei... but who is going to be shocked by this?

    Despite all of that, though, the episode was fun to watch. The dialogue with the raiding party was fun. It is still fun to see dragons kill things.
     
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  4. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Fuck me for looking. Which dragon dies and what members of the dream team die?
     
  5. Sir Phobos

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    don't click unless you really want to know.

    Viserion. Thoros.
     
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  7. NYGator

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    Same but holy fuck with benjen. I guess it means Bran will warg into the knight king and ride it.
     
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  8. NYGator

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    I'm fully suspending belief on the story line right now. They made a conscious effort to speed up the series with teleportation this season, but I am ok with that because the action and progression of the story has been amazing.
     
  9. NYGator

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    How did you know which dragon?
     
  10. Sir Phobos

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    because Rhaegal's still pretty distinctively green, took a re-watch but I figured it out because the color in the close-ups of the downed dragon couldn't remotely be construed as green.

    (I googled and it said Viserion but also I re-watched and it's definitely Viserion).

    If the dragon is blackish and Dany is riding it or near it or otherwise looking at it, that's Drogon. If the dragon is blackish and Dany is ignoring it, that's Viserion. If it's not black it's Rhaegal.
     
  11. THEBLUERAIDER

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    How did it die?
     
  12. letan

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    Holy shit. I thought that episode was awesome. Kinda figured that dany and the dragons would save them but did not see the night king taking one out.
     
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  13. TrustyPatches

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    This was the one episode where I felt the fast travel kind of killed a good scene. I wish they'd have left the "send a raven" part out and just had Dany roll through on her own accord.

    That being said, really fun episode. The banter as they all are traveling twords the walkers is fantastic. Thoros dying got me good
     
  14. TrustyPatches

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    Also, I wish they'd have made the meat shield extras a little more obvious, guys were dying and I had know clue who tf they were
     
  15. letan

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    Completely agree on the raven and dany part
     
  16. letan

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    I'm pretty happy they had just about the right amount of extras
     
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  17. Keef

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    Unfortunately due to people in the other thread "guessing" what would happen you could see it all coming.
     
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  18. Emmy Rossum

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    Yeah. I've been skeptical of people "guessing" certain things because I read the spoilers back in November.
     
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  19. NilesIrish

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    Once the dragons rolled in I knew the ice dragon was coming. The only real surprise to me was Benjen saving Jon. I thought for sure Rhaegel was coming back to roast some WW and pick up his new master.

    Also I need to get me a girl that looks at me like Dany looks at Jon after seeing his scars.

    Episode was insane. The season finale will be completely ridiculous.
     
  20. Handcuffed

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    I guessed that Dany would arrive with a dragon and hadn't read the spoilers. :twocents:
     
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  21. Keef

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    The ice dragon was the main part spoiled
     
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  22. Handcuffed

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    Wasn't that glimpsed in one of the promotional pictures or clips for the season? I forgot about it before the episode but at the end of the episode, I remembered someone either posting about it or a clip of what looked like an ice dragon. Or maybe it was just hypothesized or something and I read the theory...
     
  23. Emmy Rossum

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    I'm definitely not one to pick this season apart like some of these people but Gendry running back and sending a raven before the fight happened was ridiculous.
     
  24. NYGator

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    That's exactly what I was thinking. Would have made more sense.
     
  25. football501

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    That raven must have hit like Mach 3
     
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  26. NilesIrish

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    I believe Dragonstone is pretty close to East watch. But, I may be wrong.
     
  27. Hank Scorpio

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    The Night King = Lamar
     
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  28. Sir Phobos

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    there's 2 episodes left this season and 6 next, they have no time to sit and wait (they did that anyway, the time just passed before you realized it. they were probably on that rock for a couple days total).

    and people have been guessing about ice dragons since, well, fire dragons existed in the books. I just figured it would be done in an early skirmish next season where people thought Dany would just roflstomp them then a dragon dies, is raised instantly and everyone is forced to retreat and regroup. I would also guess that Jon will ride Rhaegal at some point, too.

    my super secret guess since NK is probably immune to dragonglass, Valyrian steel, and dragonfire: Jon will have to rip the dragonglass out of the NK to kill him.
     
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  29. bic

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    Felt the same. Knew she'd come in with her dragons after reading the spoilers but figured she'd do it just out of her own concern for Jon. Not because of Gendry breaking the land speed record and a raven breaking the air speed record in a single episode.

    Dragonstone is an island right where Blackwater Bay meets the Narrow Sea. KL and Dragonstone are virtually equidistant from Eastwatch.

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  30. NilesIrish

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    Good call. I was thinking of Skagos for some reason.
     
  31. Hank Scorpio

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    I loved the ep, but holy shit at the distance traveled by Gendry/Raven/Dany in a short period of time. They should have left the Gendry part out and explained it another way. Would have been better if Bran was warging all over Westeros like some kind of phone operator.

    Also as great the moments have been this season, it's kind of a bummer how much they've had to accelerate everything. All of the layers and nuance are gone. I'm still thoroughly entertained, but it's not the same show as the first 6 seasons.
     
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  32. Emmy Rossum

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    I need to go back and watch again but why did the AOTD stop moving and why did they start moving again when the Hound threw the rock?
     
  33. Hank Scorpio

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    Ice was originally breaking (they can't swim?) but when the rock didn't break through the ice they tested its durability again.
     
  34. NilesIrish

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    The ice broke, Hound threw the rock and it slid. They then knew it was reformed.
     
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  35. Sir Phobos

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    they didn't walk far at all, that's what should be scary. if you look at the map above, Hardhome is NW of Skane, it's that little lip sticking out. that's where the dead were marching from and that's the direction they went from Eastwatch (this is important to note). the distance from Eastwatch to Hardhome looks to be barely more than the distance from Castle Black to Eastwatch and they got nowhere near Hardhome before they found the dead, I imagine. I think they were gone for hours at most which is why Gendry made the run back to Eastwatch. they weren't gone days marching in the snow, the dead are literally right on top of them (hello, you know the wall has to come down in 2 episodes, right?). I also think they were stuck on the rocks for 36-48 hours or so, it was just shot in such a way that you barely noticed the time had passed.

    not saying it's without flaws but I think the way that was shot made it seem like that episode took a day to unfold when it was really like 3 days stretching into 4+ by the end.

    also the dead have officially passed the wall so I imagine that Bran being marked theory is true. I'm guessing frost wyrm Viserion takes it down, though.
     
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  36. Damion

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    I thought the Hound throwing rocks at them was hilarious
     
  37. Emmy Rossum

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    I'm dumb. That makes sense. I was watching at work and there was so much going on in the episode.
     
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  38. Tman12

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    I just watched and shit really gets real. :getmoneyfuckbitches:
     
  39. 34

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    Next episode is the finale so I'd assume it comes down then
     
  40. Gata

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    broke down and watched

    the NK looks like he always has a shit-eating smirk on his face it is hilarious
     
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  41. Gata

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    gotta be

    the funny thing is the mission will have been pointless because hearing the wall came down after however many thousands of years is all the convincing anybody will need

    edit: i guess not pointless because that doesn't happen if they don't go up there, but its original goal
     
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  42. swiz

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    After seeing six guys and a few extras hold their own against the army of the dead I no longer consider them a threat to the seven kingdoms. Drogon is going to wreck his brother.


    Also the Winterfell stuff is just weird. I'll write it off as filler, but I'm going to need them to resolve it in the finale. I don't need the Ayra/Sansa beef carrying over to season seven.
     
  43. stangd

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    dude runs shit...
     
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  44. Gata

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    Yeah they never really give you an idea on the number of white walkers. The wights are just brainless zombies so they aren't that great. I guess the preferred WW strat is to sit in the back and just send waves of wights.
     
  45. stangd

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    broke down and watched, was a great episode. Fuck yes...they need to wrap up this beef between Ayra/Sansa, I'm over it.
     
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  46. Gata

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    So anybody else think that Arya giving that dagger to Sansa was a "nudge, nudge, take out LF?"

    Arya confronts her about turning on her family, confronts her again basically telling her how easy it would be to kill her (while also implying she might want to rule in place of Jon), and then hands her the notorious dagger. Maybe she was letting her know that she is wise to her and LF's shit, and the time has come for her to choose between LF and her family. And if she doesn't prove her loyalty to family, Arya's going to kill her.
     
  47. NilesIrish

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    I had the same thought. But I thought it was more a "do it, or I do" thing.
     
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  48. Gata

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    That works as well. She did talk about taking her face though. Odds of LF making it out of next week's episode seem slim. I hate to see a big death telegraphed like this but oh well.
     
  49. Gata

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    Hoping to see more of the Tormund/Hound bromance as well. The Hound belongs with the free folk
     
  50. bic

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    Just re-watched the last 20 minutes or so. Dany may have regained the ability to bear children or may have been impregnated on the spot when she saw Jon's scars. I'm really interested in how they continue to play their thing out since it's easy for fans to write off Cersei and Jaime's incest as "they're the bad guys so they do twisted things" but if the heroes of the story start going Appalachia on each other the reactions could be interesting.