The Expanse Series Thread

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  1. The Blackfish

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    I believe we read book 1 Leviathan Wakes as a book club book. Book 5 Nemesis Games was just published last week. I'm starting it today.

    Series comes to FX starring Thomas Jane soon.
     
  2. zeberdee

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    I was about half way through Caliban's War and I got distracted by other things and haven't gotten back to it. reading something else now, but I plan on finishing after this book.

    I was reading about the show and noticed they cast a few people that don't show up until book 2 already. curious to see how it plays out. I always thought Leviathan Wakes would have made a great movie with the right cast. not sure how it will play out as a show.
     
  3. Truman

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    The show will be on syfy fwiw.

    Makes me a lot less excited for it, but will still watch.
     
  4. The Blackfish

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    U right
     
  5. Truman

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    I was in a similar situation as zeberdee I listened to both Leviathan and Caliban, but I just cant listen to books. Im too ADD and my mind drifts.

    Started over reading. Im almost done with Caliban's War. The Show starts in December. Hopeful to get through the other three books by then. Im sure I will, but sometimes I get burned out on a series if I plow right through.

    Sidenote - I hate Holden. He's such an idealistic pussy, and even when he's not - he beats himself up over it.

    Anyway, for selfish reasons, Id like to get some chatter going during on the books/series.

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  6. The Blackfish

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    Amos is the best character.
     
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  7. zeberdee

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    really underwhelmed with the casting of Naomi.

    Cutty as Fred Johnson is pretty intriguing though.
     
  8. Truman

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    Oh fo sho
     
  9. Truman

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    Not how I pictured her.

    Also, a little disappointed the non Earthers arent elongated like described in the books. Although I understand why they didnt/couldnt for TV purposes.
     
  10. Truman

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    Finished Caliban's War.
    Bobbie>>>>>

    Half way through Abaddon's Gate

    I miss Bobbie. Holding out hope she gets back in the mix at some point

    There's some cool Stargate shit going on. I hope Holden's vision of Miller are more than just that. I hate imaginary shit like that. Would be cool if the proto-molecules can bring him back in some capacity like Yoda/Anakin/Obi Won


    Also read the God's of Risk Novella. Didnt care for it.
     
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  11. The Blackfish

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    I've read all the Novellas, some are better than others but I don't want to miss anything. The Churn is easily the best.

    And I wouldn't worry too much about your first concern under your Abaddon's Gate spoiler.

    edit: Truman close your spoiler noob
     
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  12. Truman

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    Finished Abaddon's Gate and Churn.

    agree the Churn is the best novella Ive read. Still havent read The Drive yet, but might not that out quickly.

    TIL James S A Corey is a pen name and actually two authors. Neat.
     
  13. Truman

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    Cibola Burn was awesome. Probably my favorite so far. The book itself was fun, but was getting nervous it was just a one off book that didnt advance the plot of the series too much - but I thought they addressed it nicely in the epilogue.

    On to Nemesis Games...

    The Blackfish how many books is this series supposed to be. I kind of get the feeling it's going to go on forever. I want some closure!
     
  14. pez

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    9 books from what I've read
     
  15. The Blackfish

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    I have no idea. Nemesis game is p damn good though
     
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  16. Truman

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    Finished Nemisis Games. Lets discuss.

    Amos exchanges with Avasarla are gold. Also, some scary shit is coming....

    When is the next book scheduled to be published?


    edit : June '16
     
  17. The Blackfish

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    Yeah Amos and Avasarala are amazing.

    loved the epilogue, can't wait to get more into the disappearances and what exactly is going on. That is the shit that interests me although I did really enjoy Nemesis Game
     
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  18. Truman

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    The last two books - Ive really enjoyed them as singular books, but have also thought they dont really advance the overall plot of the series very much. Like, where are we going w all this? Then the epilogues do a really good job of setting up the next book. Im pretty intrigued by the epilogue in NG.

    New novella is going to be out October 19th
     
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    1. Abaddon's Gate
    2. Cibola Burn
    3. Leviathan Wakes

    4. Nemesis Games
    5. Caliban's War

    Epilogue was the best part of the book. I really hope they shift focus to the builders of the gate and their civilization.

    It reminded me of a line from The Wastelands - "There's a monster...something between the doors - between the worlds. Something that waits. And it's opening its eyes."
     
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  20. Iron Mickey

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    anybody got an ebook of the books after 3? think abbadon's gate is the last I read
     
  21. blind dog

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    i got mobi's of all of them. pm your email
     
  22. Truman

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    Just listened to a TV pod where they reviewed the show. They watched the first 4 hours

    The good: The production value. THey said this doesnt look like a usual Syfy show. They spent a lot of money ect. That was my biggest worry about being on Syfy. That it would feel cheesy.

    The bad: they said it was too scattered the characters werent too developed. Didnt really care about what happened to them and there was too much going on.

    Leviathan Wakes was a pretty streamlined storyline. So hopefully they're not ever complicating it
     
  23. Truman

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    First hour is up on YT. Looks pretty good to me. Pretty interested to see how they do this

     
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  24. Truman

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    Starts tonight on Syfy
     
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  25. The Blackfish

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    Gonna wait until next week to start as I'm watching Star Wars every night this week.
     
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  26. RegimentML

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    I'm more of a fantasy guy so I'll defer to other poster's judgment ITT. After finishing this month's book club book, I planned on reading a scifi series in pair with Malazan. I had been planning on the Hyperion cantos, but this series also has my interest. Any recommendations on which to start first?
     
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    I've never read Hyperion but I'm a big fan of this series.
     
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  29. RegimentML

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    Might be a book we should read as a group, then.
     
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  30. Truman

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    It will be fun to follow along w new readers
     
  31. RegimentML

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    I was talking Hyperion above, but I'll read both eventually. And I always post thoughts.
     
  32. Rebelution

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    Just finished Leviathan Wakes, big fan. Have all of them thanks to user Truman so I'm planning to read them straight through.
     
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  33. Truman

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    Anyone watching the TV series? Thoughts?

    Small changes so far, that dont bother me. My biggest hangup is that Miller and Naomi dont have Belter bodies. Also, they are barely moving through the plot, which Im ok with. I just assumed season one would be Leviathan Wakes, but it seems like they're going to get half way thought it.
     
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    I'm watching it. I haven't read the series yet, but the show is solid. Pretty well done for a SyFy show
     
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  35. Truman

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    Well, like I said - it looks like they'll only get through the first half of the first book. And while they have brought some 2nd book characters up to the early parts of the story - you should definitely read the series if you like the TV show.
     
  36. RegimentML

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    I will eventually. It's on the list
     
  37. Rebelution

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    3 or 4 episodes in, I've enjoyed it so far. Huge fan of the books so far, just started Cibola Burn.
     
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  38. Truman

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    She's pretty hot. She also looks too cute/sweet to be the bad-ass that Bobbie is.
     
  39. Truman

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    Babylon's Ashes comes out in 12 days :chatzy:
     
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  41. Truman

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    Reading recaps of Nemesis Games. I have a shit memory.
     
  42. Truman

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    After reading the first 3 chapters I realized I needed to re-read Nemesis Games, which I finished last night.

    Starting Babylon's Ashes today
     
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  43. Truman

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    Babylon Ashes through Chapter 3

    This is what made me re-read Nemesis Games. Phillip talking about Naomi's death and I was freaking out because I didnt remember her dying, that obviously that's a big fucking deal. After reading Nemesis Games, I realize Phillip just thinks she's dead and now I feel like a big dummy.

    Still glad I re-read it. At best I remembered only the broad strokes of it.
     
  44. Truman

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    Through Ch 15 (PA)

    - Bobbie is still a badass
    - So is Amos and a smartass to boot
    - Avasallera is still my fave
    - forgot how much of a pussy Holden is. If you dont want to make Peaches a full member, dont
    - Loved the tip of the cap to Andy Wier/ The Martian and naming a Martian ship The Mark Watney
     
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  45. Truman

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    Finished 9/10 . These dudes are just so good at Science Fiction, Character Development and World - er, Universe Buiding


    Is Marco dead, or just sucked into the void where all those other missing ships went? I think it would be kind of cool to play the opposite of last book where Naomi thinks he's dead but really isn't.

    Bobby is still awesome. RIP Butcher of Anderson Station.

    Now that all the politics and sovereignty is settled, Im ready for the proto-molecule to come back into play. They've had their petty little wars, not the Aliens should be coming for dat ass
     
  46. rv12

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    Can someone give me a recap of Nemesis Games?
     
  47. Truman

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    - Rocinate returns from the missions on the other side of the gate. It's all banged up and is docked @ Medina Station for repairs. While they've been gone, the solar system has gone to shit. Parts of the OPA have splintered off and become full fledge terrorists.

    - While the Roci is getting repaired, the team has time to go their separate ways to take care of personal shit.

    - Holden stays @ Tyco Station to oversee the repairs. While there, that reporter chick whose name is escaping me tells him there have been a lot of ships that go through the gate and just disappear, so he's investigating that. He also has meetings with Fred Johnson. During which there's an assassination attempt on both of them. It was unsuccessful, but they were able to steal the proto-molecule.

    - While the Roci is getting repaired, the team has time to go their separate ways to take care of personal shit.

    Amos goes back to Earth to check in on the woman that raised him (This was all in one of the novellas.) He finds out she has died, and make sure that the crime lord in that area takes care of her widow until he dies. On a whim he decides to visit Clarissa Mao, who is in a high security prison for all the shit she did in Book 3. While he's in there visiting a bunch of asteroids hit earth. Turns out the Free Navy figured out a way to hurl asteriods @ Earth. The rest of their storyline is basically Deep impact, trying to escape asteroid fallout and except they get off earth and link up with Avasarella on the Moon. Billions of people on Earth are dead, ect...

    Alex goes back to Mars to kind of try to rekindle with his ex wife. He runs in my girl Bobbie Draper, they get attacked by some millitants, she fucks them up, with his help and get off Mars. They get on the Maritian Prime Minister's ship, which gets attacked by the Free Navy

    Naomi goes to Ceres because she found out there's a family emergency involving her son. Turns out her son and baby daddy are the leaders of this terrorist group called the Free Navy. They want to capture Naomi to lure Holden in to kill him and capture the Roci. They want Naomi also because she wrote some code that basically makes ships explode. Naomi is heart broken to see her son fall to the dark side, for lack of a better term, but stays loyal to the good guys, gets out a message that attacks are imminent

    The ending is that there's a peace conference happening between Mars, Earth and the Belters/OPA - Fred Johnson. The Roci is all fixed up and Holden is headed there w Fred, Bobbie and Alex w the Martian PM and Amos & Clarissa w Avasarella. They figure out that some of those missing ships are stolen by the free navy, but others going through the gate are just gone. No sign of them. They show this ship going through the gate just vaporizing into a cloud or something.

    Last scene is Marco and Filip attacking the Peace summit. Naomi foiling them and Holden racing in to help. Naomi gambles and shoots herself out a hatch to sabotage something on their ship. Filip and Marco think she's martyred herself, but Holden and the Roci crew where able to scoop her up and everyone is reunited.
     
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  48. Truman

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    Dang that is really long and rambling, but I think that's the gist of it. At least what you need for Babylon's ashes. Lmk if you have any questions.
     
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