The Wire (beware of spoilers)

Discussion in 'TV Board' started by IT, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. clemsonvianj

    clemsonvianj Well-Known Member
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    scene posted above is better than previous 2 and is better on rewatches than "my name is my name" (for me) but on the first time viewing, the jail scene with Chris, Cheese, Monk and Marlo was easily my favorite.
     
  2. LetItSoak

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    My name is my name, when you were watching for the first time, was absolutely a top Marlo scene. The hindsight hipsterism of saying it wasn't is silly
     
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  3. Snakes

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    The "my name is my name" scene is great because it personified all of Marlo's goals on the streets. It wasn't about making money. It was about pride and "honor" (in their twisted sense). Marlo's ambition was to be the baddest dude in the game and to have every person in the streets to shudder when they hear his name. Omar calling him out and him not even having the opportunity to respond destroyed him because it diminished everything he was about.

    Just my :twocents:
     
  4. tandin

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    I like restrained marlo a lot more. I think that scene was needed but in no way is it hipsterism to say it wasnt one of his best.

    It is the most famous scene of his because it is the culmination of the show, but that doesnt make it the best.
     
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  5. Snakes

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    You didn't say it wasn't the best. Dude said it was the most overrated in the series and you agreed. That is hyperbole.
     
  6. tandin

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    I cant think of another overrated scene at all.

    People talk about it like it is his best scene.

    In that context, I still think it is the most overrated.
     
  7. LetItSoak

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    I think if you go back, with hindsight, and compare youtube clips it is a lot different than when you saw it for the first time. It was intense and elicited a lot of emotion. Chris' reaction to it was also very powerful I thought
     
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  8. clemsonvianj

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    the best part about it was that it was un-restrained Marlo. it was the first time in the show where we saw Marlo with his emotion not held in check. that scene plus his final shot on the corner cemented the idea that Marlo was one of the most (if only behind Omar) willful characters on the show.
     
  9. CC

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    My original point was just to show two scenes where Marlo was "at his best," meaning a top level of performance. Which he can do multiple times. Those two scenes were two of them.
     
  10. Cronk

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    I hated Marlo, thought he was a complete punk, an arrogant asshole and didn't respect the rules of the "game"
     
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  11. Andy Reocho

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    #teamavon
     
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  12. Frank Martin

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    you must be trollin
     
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  13. Frank Martin

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    i just realized it's been 2 years since i've watched the series. time to start over
     
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  14. The Blackfish

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    Been over 2 years for me as well. Definitely time to watch again.
     
  15. clemsonvianj

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    what rules did he break? besides not taking care of all of his own, Marlo acted no differently, just was "more fierce."
     
  16. CC

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    I get all that definitely. Here's my thing: we never really saw Marlo's rise to power (young dude on the streets actually stepping up to people etc), so I don't feel that powerful connection to him in that way. He was pure evil in it's subtlest form, which is absolutely terrifying and why I prefer some of his more subdued scenes
     
  17. Biff Bridges

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    My name is my name was incredibly written and terribly acted. Not believable at all. Overrated to the max.
     
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  18. tjosu

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    I didn't mean to Walking Dead this thread by saying that last night, sorry everyone
     
  19. Blane

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    I also didn't like Marlo.
     
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  20. Senator John Fudderman

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    Marlo fucking sucked. Most overrated character on the show.
     
  21. Houndster

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    Hated Marlo but I think I was supposed to hate him.
     
  22. Snakes

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    That's how I feel. I definitely rooted against him and I hated how he big boyed the co-op out of business and all that. I hated how powerful he became so fast. That being said, I thought he was a great character.
     
  23. Blane

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    yeah this is how i felt. good character but he was a villain to me and i never rooted for him.

    guys i remember rooting for:

    the detectives
    daniels
    the DA
    beatrice
    avon (once he was up against marlo)
    avon's nephew
    bodie (once he was up against marlo)
    omar
    most of the kids in the school season
     
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  24. Jaqen H'ghar

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    did anybody else detest McNulty? I can't even articulate a reason why, I just could not stand him at any point.
     
  25. Lemmy Caution

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    I hated him for sabotaging himself. He had so much potential once he settled down with Beatrice and pissed it away. I hated how much he hurt those around him. He was an incomplete human being.
     
  26. SC

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    Didn't realize people disliked Marlo. Fantastic character.
     
  27. dcon79

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    Didn't like him until his last scene. I also didn't like Avon until he went to prison for the second time. Those moments I understood that they know who they are and won't pretend to be something they aren't. I had a lot more respect for them. I didn't like stringer because he was the opposite. As avon said, not smart enough for the business world but not bad enough for the streets
     
  28. Clown Baby

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    Do you even watch, bro
     
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  29. Manny

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    My favorite character, possibly of all tv-dom, is Preston fucking Broadus aka Bodie.
     
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  30. Lemmy Caution

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    Significant improvement over "Bricks" Wangler.
     
  31. Blane

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    Been a couple years
     
  32. TLAU

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    pretty sure rooting for d'angelo makes you gay
     
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  33. southlick

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    The HD remastered Blu-ray is being released on June 2nd and is starting to show up on torrance sites.

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  34. DollarBillHokie

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    If there is one show on earth I am willing to pay for, it is The Wire.
     
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  35. justcain

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    Finally rewatching, just started season 3 :ohgosh:
     
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  36. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    Every time I re watch, I realize I deal with Wallace everyday and it makes me sad.
     
  37. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    "I wouldn't steal and not tell you about it"-Herc
     
  38. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    I want the McNulty Wallace detail. Beer and crab cakes to sit on some project yo.
     
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  39. K T

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    You really pick up so many more details after a re-watch or two. It would've been a nice little touch if the series ended with Scott Templeton being pushed into oncoming traffic instead of winning a pulitzer.
     
  40. Flagpole

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    I am about 50 pages into simon's book homicide. Already is really, really good.
     
  41. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    Brb, going to Amazon
     
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  42. Professor Moriarty

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    I read "The Corner" back in college. Phenomenal stuff.
     
  43. dathalfnukkahd

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    David Simon is in current development of a series about the porn industry. Its gonna happen.
     
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  44. clemsonvianj

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    :tebow: Greggs scene from first season always is crazy
     
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  45. AIOLICOCK

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    I love the scene after this where Rawls talks McNulty down. That's one of the things that made The Wire great; how even a bastard like Rawls could be so likeable.
     
  46. dathalfnukkahd

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    Or when he tells the DEA guy at the scene "fuck your money"
     
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  47. Long Ball Larry

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    How did nothing ever become of the one scene, can't remember the season, where Rawls was shown briefly in a gay bar?
     
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  48. Joe_Pesci

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    there's nothing more to be said, really. he's an in-the-closet cop.
     
  49. Long Ball Larry

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    I know. There was that scene and he also always used very homoerotic imagery (ie cocksocker, shove it up your ass, homophobic insults, etc.), but nothing ever became of it and I guess I was always waiting for the shoe to drop.
     
  50. SC

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    Simon:

    Did we lay other groundwork? We did. We could have cannibalized Rawls' moment in the gay bar and advanced that moment, but I'm not sure we would have created any more theme, and on some level it was very satisfying just to grant the notion of a closeted gay man's sexuality a moment on screen and then move on. There was something very compelling and real about just acknowledging that but not making it into grist for a storyline that didn't add anything to our portrayal of Rawls. We were always laying pipe that could be picked up later. It doesn't mean that you should pick it up.
     
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