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  1. Shiggityshwo

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    a funny thought that just occurred to me if we do end up going with Wes, the reason he got a spot at UNC in the first place was because McCants recommended to Roy that he take a look at him as they were former teammates, so in a pretty big way, the black sheep of the family would be responsible for the appointment of the UNC head coach
     
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  2. Tobias

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    still don’t think mario knows shit but he said it’s few or stevens and once they say no, wes

    i am fine with this scenario so i will believe it

    tobias
     
  3. mangler

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    I too approve of this
     
  4. Shiggityshwo

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    nothing groundbreaking here but a confirmation at least of the 5 names that seem to have the most buzz so far

    UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham offered this comment to reporters on Thursday when asked about a potential list of candidates: “It's a pretty narrow set of people when you say you've got the best job in college sports. You guys know who everyone would have in mind. I'm not going to try to trick anybody and say there's this sleeper out there. That's the reality of the business that we're in."

    And while Cunningham indicated that candidates do not have to be a member of the Carolina family, past conversations with individuals around the program have stressed that even if future candidates were not directly tied to the Carolina tree, they would have to understand and appreciate the values that make Carolina basketball what it is.

    Two days into the process, all indications are that the aforementioned comments and sentiments have held true. IC has consistently heard five names being mentioned in the early stages of this search: Mark Few, Brad Stevens, Jay Wright, Wes Miller and Hubert Davis - all of which reciprocated enough interest to initially keep on the board. Cunningham highlighted the importance of integrity and an emphasis on academics when asked about job qualifications, and all five individuals check those boxes.

    Few has spent his entire life and career in the Northwest, the last 30+ years in the Gonzaga program. He’s got a sterling reputation for character and work ethic - which explains his friendship with Roy Williams — and is not a conventional 24-hours-in-the-office type of grinder on the coaching circuit. He has a well known love of fly fishing. He’s carved out a niche and fits the Spokane community. Obviously, any potential conversations with Few are impacted by Gonzaga playing in the Final Four this evening.

    Stevens won 77% of his games at Butler, highlighted by back-to-back appearances in the national championship game in 2010-11, before leaving in 2013 for Boston, where he’s guided the Celtics to six consecutive postseason appearances. Admittedly a numbers guy who projects a calm demeanor on the sideline, Stevens does not have an agent, preferring to handle his decision-making with his wife, Tracy. That dynamic makes the courting process unique. We’ve been told that Stevens has reciprocated interest in the UNC position, but where it can go from there is unclear at this point in time. There’s also questions without answers regarding the NBA regular season – which ends on May 16 – and any potential contract hurdles (he signed a five-year extension last summer). His reputation is not that of someone that would leave a team mid-season.

    We do not have any detailed information at this time to suggest there has been any further contact or developments with Wright.

    Sources indicate Hubert Davis interviewed for the job on Friday. Cunningham noted his preference for a coach with previous head coaching experience, but Davis’s ties to UNC – in addition to strong support from segments of the Carolina family – moves him into serious consideration for the position. There are obvious unknowns with Davis, given his only head coaching experience resides with the JV team, and it’s important to note that due to the way the Roy Williams staff operated, there was limited opportunity for his approach to the game and coaching to show. There have been internal conversations about changes he’d implement that would move the program forward while maintaining the current Carolina way without a major shakeup.

    Sources also indicate that Wes Miller was expected to interview for the job on Saturday. Miller is another member of the Carolina family who actually has coaching experience. He purposefully transferred to UNC in 2003 due to his coaching aspirations and desire to learn under Roy Williams. Unsurprisingly in coaching circles other coaches say they often see Roy Williams in him when they watch him coach. The 38-year-old is 182-134 at UNC Greensboro and has averaged 25 wins over his past five seasons.

    There is an expectation that there are some coaches outside of the five names that deserve interviews, including Jerry Stackhouse, and we’ve heard a couple other names of those in the coaching family mentioned along these lines.

    Cunningham stressed on Friday a refusal to be myopic in this search, repeatedly noting a desire to reach out to members of the Carolina family within the industry for feedback. IC can confirm that has in fact occurred, and continues as of today. He’s contacted former players with specific questions about coaches, and we can confirm names mentioned include Few, Stevens and Davis. Cunningham has also spoken with Michael Jordan, who offered to help in any way that was needed.

    There is an urgency in the process as the new coach will need to hit the ground running. The ever-fluid transfer portal offers options for adding personnel, but also right now creates pressure on the existing roster, who are hearing through back channels from other programs.

    The one-time transfer rule and name, image and likeness legislation are set to impact the college basketball landscape. Finding a candidate capable of managing those coming changes is imperative for the health of the program moving forward.

    Those close to the situation universally said they did not see the process taking longer than 7-10 days.
     
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  5. Shiggityshwo

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    question is do we root for Gonzaga to lose tonight so Few can go ahead and jump on or do we want them to win it all so he can get some nice closure in Spokane
     
  6. One Man Wolfpack

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    MossHeel making an appearance on the basketball board saying don't discount Mark Few's relationship with Roy.
     
  7. Shiggityshwo

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    think I'm on team win it all for Gonzaga, beating them for a title and then stealing their coach a couple years later is just too much bad juju without Few leaving a championship behind
     
  8. Tobias

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    if the stevens interest is real and the timing is what fucks this up, i will always hold a tiny grudge against roy for not waiting to retire until the summer
     
  9. Shiggityshwo

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    tbh if Stevens wants to come then I couldn't care less about waiting until mid-May for him to get started and I'd like to think Bubba feels the same way
     
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  10. Tobias

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    i don’t see why we wouldn’t wait like you said. it’s risky that he changes his mind (assuming he doesn’t officially accept because if he does boston would just fire him and tell him start now)

    but at that point you just hire wes or promote hubert anyways who will wait as long as needed
     
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  11. Tobias

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    stevens has to actually coach a game for us next fall for me to actually believe it. not a moment sooner
     
  12. Owsley

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    From an outside perspective, Stevens kinda has a Saban with the Dolphins feel right now. Hope it works out for y’all.
     
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  13. Tobias

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    yeah there is a football only fan on our board (that exists lol) and he asked what the comparison was and someone said saban to bama would be the comp. it would completely alter the landscape of the sport if stevens went to carolina
     
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  14. Shiggityshwo

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    I keep looking forward to commercials so I can go and soak up the latest page or two of useless drivel from the coaching search thread and in no way am I ashamed of this
     
  15. Tobias

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    it’s 65 and i am at an actual Major League Baseball game having a beer and i can’t look away. turning off my phone now thanks and god bless
     
  16. Shiggityshwo

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    you make the trip up to Philly?
     
  17. Shiggityshwo

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    low chimed in

     
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  18. goheels10

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    Man.., haven’t been to that site in a while. What a throwback seeing that name.

    also made me think of Dante Paige-Moss.
     
  19. Tobias

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    hopefully this game ends the absurd charade that this gonzaga team is even in the same universe as 09 unc
     
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  21. Shiggityshwo

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    give us your '05 UNC/Duke juju :zoidberg:
     
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  22. Shiggityshwo

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    Well it was a fun weekend of Stevens fever dreams, but Monday has arrived and we're back to the Hubert reality

    the one rationale I keep clinging to is that it makes sense that Hubert would still be the feeling as that's where things were initially and info seems to be locked up pretty tight, so hopefully things are still moving behind the scenes
     
  23. Tobias

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    it seems the ic reporting keeps coming from the player/program side and they’ve been very clear that it’s bubba’s/chancellor’s call and there is nothing from that side

    if it’s hubert, it just seems like it woulda been announced by now

    trying to talk myself into it because i have a bad feeling it’s gonna be hubert
     
  24. Tobias

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    shouldn’t be much longer
     
  25. Tobias

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    ben just confirmed its hubert
     
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  26. Shiggityshwo

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  27. Shiggityshwo

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    hopefully Wes jumps at a high major opportunity now
     
  28. Tobias

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    i would expect bubba leaves soon because there is no way this was his hire
     
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  29. Tobias

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    roy's stubborn loyalty kills us one last time on his way out
     
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  30. One Man Wolfpack

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    Laughing on the outside.

    Crying uncontrollably on the inside.

    Qualifications for the “best job in America”: nice guy, UNC diploma, Roy’s buddy. That’s it. That’s the qualifications.
     
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  31. Shiggityshwo

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    time for assistant watch I guess, I'm assuming Kendall and Sean stay on now
     
  32. Shiggityshwo

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    if this is truly what the players want, as it's been reported, I better see a group busting their asses for him next year
     
  33. Tobias

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    the athletic unc beat reporter is saying garrison may return now

    let's just run it back but with a worse lineup and with hubert instead of roy
     
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  34. Big Ern McCracken

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    Funny Roy can’t coach anymore yet can run an Athletic Department and name his successor. Wonder if they will let him have a say in who succeeds Mack.
     
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  36. Tobias

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    did you steal my ic account i made this exact point
     
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  37. Big Ern McCracken

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    Haha my dad made exact same point..
    Just such a lazy hire. Other than being in the “family,” he has no reason to be hired at a blue blood. I don’t seem remember Hubert being rumored for many big time jobs, yet he is the man for UNC!
     
  38. Tobias

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    every single job in the acc could come open tomorrow and he wouldn’t get an interview at a single one of them. but he’s friends with roy and played for dean and baptized kenny williams so sure give him the unc job
     
  39. Big Ern McCracken

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    Just ventured over to IC and man the spin job by some fans trying to back this hire

    -One of the best 3 point shooters of all time
    -Bridges UNC family gap, keeping secondary break
    -NBA connection

    this can’t be real
     
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  40. Tobias

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    they would be hammering duke if they promoted paulus to replace k. but it doesn’t matter because if roy and this nebulous idea of ~~~family~~~ say it’s good, it’s good
     
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  41. Tobias

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    also if the report of even an ounce of consideration was given to appeasing next year’s team with this hire is true, i am going to lose my mind. who cares if one of the worst non doh unc team likes the hire. they could all transfer for all i care and we just suck until wes or whomever gets his guy’s in

    how dumb is this program
     
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  42. Tro lo lo

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    I'd love to talk shit, but I feel like we'll be doing the same dance with Gerry Mac in 10 years when Boeheim retires/dies of old age.
     
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  43. Shiggityshwo

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    felt like I was taking crazy pills seeing people concerned about this, I mean we had people worried about what the players would do if we hired Brad fucking Stevens
     
  44. Tobias

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    riverdale saying get used to coaching searches like this :ohdear:
     
  45. Shiggityshwo

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    who do we even have on the football side of things

    edit: I guess Bateman or Longo counts
     
  46. Tobias

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    i think he meant just nepotistic and mediocre hires like this in bball.
     
  47. Shiggityshwo

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    in hindsight I wish Stack had waited for a better opportunity, maybe this adversity helps him in the long run though
     
  48. Tobias

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    it just kinda seems like it wouldn’t have mattered what stack did. hubert was seemingly always gonna be the guy
     
  49. Shiggityshwo

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    I'm talking about for the potential of another coaching search in the next few years
     
  50. Shiggityshwo

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    regardless, it's impossible not to be happy for this guy, I'm done complaining and giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise

     
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