***Your Baltimore Orioles Thread***

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  1. DirtBall

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    Do you guys have any speed on the bench? Was surprised you didn’t PR for Slow-hearns at the end there.
     
  2. scarlet_tacos

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    the answer is no
     
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  3. PSU12

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    The good news is we have no chance to go more than 18 innings without a run.

    this is an absolutely pathetic approach at the plate
     
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  4. PSU12

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    Masterclass by Hyde here
     
  5. Dukes

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    I can’t get over cowser striking out on a ball that hit him with the bases loaded
     
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  6. Gunners

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    New manager time with this display

    Just broken
     
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  7. PSU12

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    Jesus Christ get Mountcastle out of the game
     
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  8. PSU12

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    Mountcastle, Henderson, Santander a combined 1-21 in 2 games. Good postseason fellas.
     
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    I currently feel like the Urban Meyer pizza pic

    The hitting approach is absolute fucking trash, if you don’t fire Hyde then replace the hitting coaches
    Re-sign Burnes and if you can’t, spend the same on 2-3 others
    Let Santander walk and trade Mountcastle and give Kjerstad and Mayo a chance
    Get some better utility guys

    no reason to blow it up but that hitting was a fucking disgrace

    fuck you DirtBall
     
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  10. Gunners

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    Taking Hyde’s atrocious beard into account, I’d very much prefer a change
     
  11. DirtBall

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    <3 U BB
     
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    Think this was a scathing but mostly fair article

    Ghiroli: The Orioles’ honeymoon is over, and their front office needs to find answers
    By Brittany Ghiroli
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    BALTIMORE — The backslapping of goodbyes in the Baltimore Orioles clubhouse was deafening, the official obituary for a team that has been playing dead for months.

    This much is clear: The honeymoon is over.

    Last year, when this group was swept out of the American League Division Series by the eventual champion Texas Rangers, the reasons seemed valid. They were young, inexperienced. They had simply run out of gas in October. There was dejection, but it was hard to be too upset at a team that had stunned the sport by winning 101 games and the AL East. Over and over, those around the team offered variations of the same phrase: It was just the beginning of a long window for this young core.

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    The window is here. And if the organization, everyone from general manager Mike Elias on down, doesn’t learn from its mistakes, it could slam shut sooner than anyone thought.

    A new ownership group, led by David Rubenstein, will take a close look at the business in its first full offseason, and the list of upgrades and to-dos is long. This front office would be wise to do its own autopsy, after a listless 2-1 loss to the Kansas City Royals that should send shock waves through every corner of Camden Yards.

    “It all came crashing down on us sooner than anyone expected it to,” catcher James McCann said of an Orioles team with World Series expectations that was 20 games over .500 in the first half of the season.

    This isn’t just about Jordan Westburg’s injury, though when Westburg fractured his hand, the Orioles’ offense took a nosedive in August and September. Nor is it about the alarming play of catcher Adley Rutschman, who is either hurt or just went the better part of four months as a below-average offensive player.

    And it isn’t just about playing things too safe at the trade deadline, though you could certainly start there. The Orioles were a .500 team in the second half of the season, and were it not for the acquisition of Wednesday’s starter, Zach Eflin, the deadline could be chalked up as a total failure. It is the second successive season Elias and his group opted not to make a big splash but to instead hold on to most of their top prospects and carefully cultivated farm system.

    Maybe bigger moves weren’t out there, but there were other paths to upgrade. One, closer Lucas Erceg, stared them in the face as he finished the job for the Royals in both wild-card games. Two more, the San Diego Padres’ Tanner Scott and Jason Adam, were significant enough bullpen upgrades that it makes you wonder: How many games could they have changed for the Orioles? Being bold can invigorate a clubhouse. Being safe, for the second season in a row, can be deflating. “It’s better than nothing,” a member of last year’s team texted me after the team acquired Jack Flaherty and Shintaro Fujinami, both busts, last July. Was it, though?

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    Optics matter. Clubhouse dynamics matter. Experience matters. Especially in the postseason.

    Kansas City, a small-market team, infused its club with four new players at the deadline and added another trio in August on waivers. It prioritized veterans, knowing postseason experience was important. Who in the Orioles lineup has the experience and cache to call a pregame meeting to light a fire, or keep things loose in the dugout? Veterans matter, even when they don’t show up in the numbers.

    Of course, the Orioles could have added Scott, Adam, Erceg and vintage Mariano Rivera at the deadline and it still wouldn’t have helped much against Kansas City. The O’s lineup looked flummoxed and miserable the past two days, flailing at pitches outside the zone, desperate to hit a three-run homer with no one on base. In perhaps the lasting image of this series, Colton Cowser struck out swinging at a ball that hit him in the fifth inning with the bases loaded. Had he kept his bat on his shoulders, the Orioles would have taken the lead.

    The O’s scored one run the entire series, running the organization’s playoff losing streak to 10 in the process. They never led and, dating back to last year’s sweep against Texas, have had the lead in just one inning in five postseason games. These don’t just feel like losses; they feel almost inevitable. That is what needs to change.



    “Last year, Game 1 (we had an) opportunity, didn’t win, but then the next two kind of got out of hand,” Orioles manager Brandon Hyde said. “This year, you felt like these were two winnable games.”

    The Orioles front office and coaches will spend a long time unpacking all the reasons they became a .500 team: injuries, underperformance, over-reliance on their young stars. The players, eyes red-rimmed and shocked, will retreat to their offseason homes and wonder what could have been.

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    “For it to happen two years in a row is a tough pill to swallow,” said first baseman Ryan Mountcastle, who, like many of his teammates, had no answers for how this team slid so far from July on. For how the entire lineup dipped in runs per game, slugging percentage, OPS and every other tangible metric as the seasons wore on.

    Someone better find those answers. Next year, the Orioles won’t have ace Corbin Burnes — who came over last offseason in a fantastic trade by the front office — or Anthony Santander, who hit a team-leading 44 home runs and is also headed to free agency. Those are big shoes to fill.

    Make no mistake: This is still a talented young team. But never has an offseason felt more critical. Never has there been a time to aggressively chase upgrades and not waste another year of a young, controllable, cheap core.

    Windows change. Injuries happen; players age. The Orioles don’t even have to leave the division for proof of how quickly things can turn sour. Just look at the Toronto Blue Jays.

    The front office has proved it can build a minor-league system and develop an enviable group of young, big-league talent. It has done a terrific job turning around an organization that was in dire straits. Now it’s time to figure out how to take the next step.

    Good isn’t good enough anymore. And just getting to October can’t be, either.
     
  13. PSU12

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    Adley huge bounce back year underway.
     
  14. scarlet_tacos

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    Love seeing Mullins hitting bombs. Great game from Eflin.

    lets gooooo
     
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  15. Gunners

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    Let’s make some more posts so we can get off the page from angry playoff posts, mainly from me

    I must say, I’m kinda annoyed by Rubenstein thinking he’s some celeb. You’re better than Angelos, still haven’t done a thing yet. Guy wants billionaire worship and it annoys me
     
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  16. JPWahoo

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    oof I should not have scrolled up
     
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  17. JPWahoo

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    also fuck the blue jays
     
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  18. Gunners

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    Bargain bin staff
     
  19. Gunners

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    This team sucks and hard to watch. Errors, hitting into a ton of double plays, allowing a single to score a guy from first and now Eflin is hurt.

    Of course Gunnar will heat up big time but Hyde’s seat is gonna get warm very fast if this continues and hopefully Rubenstein is too ashamed to keep acting like he’s a celeb. Been owner 1 year and has had like 3 bobblehead nights of himself, stroke your ego some more dickhead

    Good talk, just frustrated. Will be much more if this goes into the summer being the only sport on
     
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  20. Dukes

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    Team has a losing record over their last 100 games. Hyde needs to go.
     
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  21. scarlet_tacos

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    This team is trash currently. But I’ll be at the game Sunday.

    I was interested to see they did actually give burnes a good offer. But it doesn’t seem like burnes was ever going to resign.

    hitting is right where they left off. If they aren’t hitting homers, they aren’t scoring runs. Pitching overall is terrible. Perez is a disaster in the bullpen. Why did they let Coulombe go?

    wish they figured out a move for Dylan cease. Honestly they need to trade some of these guys in the minors and make a run quick.

    Hyde stinks.
     
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  22. PSU12

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    It’s bad. I was encouraged by the change in ownership and it’s been a shit show ever since. Elias and this front office seem to have struck gold at identifying and drafting talent and have no clue what they are doing trying to supplement with trades or free agents that are required for us to get over the top. Last year’s trades were a disaster and wasted trade ammo. Desperation moves to make moves and then nothing this past offseason. Shit’s depressing. Just go ahead and get the Tommy John inevitably coming to GRod out of the way now.
     
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  23. PSU12

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    This team fuckin stinks. Fuck Mike Elias and this new ownership. Fire Hyde too. Inexcusable to be this bad with this much talent.
     
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  24. scarlet_tacos

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    Morton is fucking terrible. Feels like season is already too far gone and it’s not even May. Hyde seems like he’s lost.

    I’m happy to see mullins doing well. Other than that they stink.
     
  25. Gunners

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    I have no issues with Rubenstein’s spending so far, I just hate how he wants to be a celebrity. So cool that you throw shitty fanatics hats to fans, let’s do another bobblehead of you


    Elias has had some major recent gaffes but deserves a chance to make it right, seems like this is as far as we go with Hyde
     
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  26. PSU12

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    We suck so bad. How does Hyde still have a job?
     
  27. scarlet_tacos

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    The inability to score runs is so frustrating. The offense is supposed to be the one thing tbjs team can do. Stsrted this season just how they ended the last one.

    Elias needs to be on shaky ground also. His trades have been awful. Rubenstein seems to be ok spending money. Go get Dylan cease.
     
  28. Gunners

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    2nd worst run differential

    Ranted a bit in mlb thread last night, team is absolutely unwatchable
     
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  29. JPWahoo

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    yup I've stopped watching
     
  30. Gunners

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    Watched some tonight for the lulz and boy did they deliver

    A solid 15 LOB tonight not to mention how the game winning run happened
     
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  31. scarlet_tacos

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    Rubenstein has been awfully quiet lately.

    not really sure how Hyde can survive this last week. 0-6 to the twins and then this disaster game. No outs guy on base and a strike out throw em out double play.

    Not saying it’s all Hyde’s fault but the team looks lost. Might as well try to spark something before it’s really too late.
     
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  32. scarlet_tacos

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    He gone
     
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