if the young activists start a trend of opening up a bunch of med schools and expanding residency spots dramatically i'll be ecstatic but being skeptical based on history is just the base case even if you don't like it
taking away social cache of being a physician would do wonders for weeding out the narcissists and why countries with free med school and reasonable physician pay is the model the US should have followed but we fucked up in the 40's
Agreed but going back to my original point, so should we just do nothing about it or try and get involved?
The only specialty I know of that advocate limiting residency positions was neurosurgery. And hey, if you want to paint that group with a broad brush that they are all greedy narcicists… I’m not stopping you!
You're right. You told me to do whatever I wanted, just seemed to have taken a change in tone from your first couple of posts ( how I interpreted it from reading between the lines) and like most humans I am not infallible.
Yeah especially since they've run all of the major national medical associations and lobbies for the better part of a century
I admittedly haven't really tracked any of whatever this was but if the question is if I'd like more money then yes, I would, please
Education costs are one of the roots of the problem. I’m sure things would look quite different if the majority of doctors didn’t have to pay $30k+ in post-tax dollars to student loans to pay each year.
Med school, the Step exams, and the match process are attritional by design. They try to weed out the unqualified, uncompassionate, and unmotivated. As long as she shows a strong desire to match her desired specialty, she’ll get it, even if that means having to do an undesirable intern or research year first. Condolences for sure though, it’s going to be a shitty week for both you guys
Also the med school application process (and expense of attending med school) are bigger barriers than the rest. Saddling people with a massive debt that they can’t hope to ever get out from under without a career in medicine to pay those bills is already a huge motivator. Throwing more stress on that pile isn’t great for anyone’s mental health.
The cost of just applying and interviewing for residency was somewhere around 10k Absurd burden on people making no money
If you think the medical school/training process is fucked, you would be appalled at clinical psych. It’s modeled after medicine, with 1/2 of the earning potential.
System works great unless you're in primary care. Orthos train for fucking ever but then get out and can pay off their loans in one year. System was basically set up by orthos in the 60s. They were the first group to organize and lobby the fed gov't. So the system as a whole has catered to surgical subspecialty ever since. Pslf was a nice little lifeline though. Feel a little like an indentured servant to it, but hey, it's better than bankruptcy. Probably important to know that if any POTUS ever burns down pslf, primary care in its entirety will be over pretty much immediately. RonBurgundy will be the only primary care physician alive.
Not sure if I said it in this thread or not but my wife just got $400k wiped officially and it was quite the feeling
yeah, there are only a handful of funded psyd programs. Psyd graduates made up 30% of graduates as of 2017. I only have anecdotal experiences, but I have heard that fully funded PhD programs have reduced admission rates over the past 5 years making the problem even worse.
It’s a joke that I don’t qualify for PSLF when all my patients are Medicaid or Medicare (I do primary care in-home). I only care for the indigent or very needy but don’t get any favors from the government. Sucks.
You have to take some degree of personal responsibility here…did you sign up for PSLF and understand the rules? We’ve planned the last 10 years of our life and corresponding career decisions purely based on this
Are you solo? Is there a way to incorporate your practice as a nonprofit and hire yourself? I thought I had heard of someone doing that before
MrOutlaw pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ is referring to the PSLF (Perfect Stryker Loan Forgiveness) Program. If you have perfect attendance, aka use only stryker products for your first year of practice, they pay off your loans and give you a c-suite position.
bet it was aweomse, had a bunch of buddies get wiped but since my dumb ass refi'd I am not eligible for PSLF. All the sad.