stupid shit you see on ESPN

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  1. Shawn Hunter

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    :pffft:
    "Artisanal" PB&J. It's a damn PB&J, nothing about that is artisanal.
     
  2. Daddy Rabbit

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  3. Shawn Hunter

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    That's got too much other shit on it to just be a PB&J, only half of the non-bread ingredients are peanut butter and jelly. Would be like saying you have a pepperoni pizza meanwhile it has sausage and ham on it. No motherfucker, that is not a pepperoni pizza, that is a three-meat pizza.

    Though that does sound pretty good.
     
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  4. War Grundle

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    I love PB&J's. Probably eaten more than 5,000 in my lifetime.
     
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  5. Shawn Hunter

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    WEnt home, didn't have any jelly, just ate a crunchy PB sandwich. Was unsatisfying. Been forever since I had a PB or a PB&J sandwich. Reckon I need to go buy some jelly and see what the big deal is now.
     
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  6. LeonardWashington

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    I just came here to post this. Who would read that article?
     
  7. LeonardWashington

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    more overused word lately- artisanal or iconic?
     
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  8. Shawn Hunter

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    Add state of the art as well.

    But I'd go artisanal. Just about every fast food joint is using that word these days. Nothing they do is artisanal.
     
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  9. fsudan

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    Jemele Hill just went on a 5 minute rant on how Geno Auriemma is sexist because he said there are fewer female coaches than males because more males want to coach sports. Something that is obviously true.
     
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  10. fsudan

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    Seriously when will this show die
     
  11. Shawn Hunter

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    Not quick enough.
     
  12. Baby Rabbit

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    You should get the Smuckers Uncrustable PB&J's. They're great.

    You get all the delicious gooey center without having to worry about peeling the edges of the bread off
     
  13. je ne suis pas ici

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    from their ombudsman

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    New ESPN guidelines recognize connection between sports, politics
    2:17 AM CT
    • Jim Brady, ESPN Public Editor

    ESPN has issued new political and election guidelines for its employees that, while allowing for political discussion on the network’s platforms, recommend connecting those comments to sports whenever possible. The new policies also provide separate guidelines for ESPN staffers working on news and those engaging in commentary.

    The timing of the release of the election guidelines is a bit unusual -- such guidelines are rarely released right after a presidential election; they’re usually updated near the beginning of a presidential campaign. But we are living in unique political times, which ESPN apparently recognized, which explains the revised guidelines for discussion of political and social issues.

    “Given the intense interest in the most recent presidential election and the fact subsequent political and social discussions often intersected with the sports world, we found it to be an appropriate time to review our guidelines,” said Patrick Stiegman, ESPN’s vice president of global digital content and the chairman of the company’s internal Editorial Board, which drafted the new guidelines.

    Stiegman said no single issue or incident led to the change, but Craig Bengtson, ESPN’s vice president and managing editor of newsgathering and reporting, said the nation’s tense political climate did play a role.

    “We have the convergence of a politically charged environment and all these new technologies coming together at once,” he said. “Based on that, we wanted the policy to reflect the reality of the world today. There are people talking about politics in ways we have not seen before, and we’re not immune from that.”

    Stiegman said the new election guidelines are no longer just targeted at presidential elections. “We simply extended our approach to covering presidential elections every four years to major elections, in general, believing all the same principles should apply,” Stiegman said.

    So what’s different in the new policies? Let’s start with the Political and Social Issues guidelines. Its first line lays out ESPN’s challenge quite accurately:

    “At ESPN, our reputation and credibility with viewers, readers and listeners are paramount. Related to political and social issues, our audiences should be confident our original reporting of news is not influenced by political pressures or personal agendas.”

    As I wrote in November, not all ESPN consumers -- or employees, for that matter -- feel the company has lived up to this ideal. Stiegman said that the buzz around the topic of ESPN and politics -- also written about by The New York Times, Awful Announcing, the Orlando Sentinel and many conservative sites criticizing ESPN’s perceived leftward tilt -- didn’t play a significant role in the revision of the guidelines.

    The two most notable changes from the Political Advocacy policy are the delineation of guidelines between news and commentary, and allowing for increased political discussion on ESPN platforms, as warranted and connected to sports. This isn’t a surprising development, it’s just new.

    “We wanted to err on the side of transparency and trust with our reporting,” Stiegman said, “but also give our columnists and commentators the freedom to discuss topics relevant to those sports fans who visit our platforms, even if the issues are political or social in nature.”

    Here are other notable points in the Political and Social Issues policy, with my thoughts:

    “Original news reports should not include statements of support, opposition or partisanship related to any social issue, political position, candidate or office holder.”

    This one seems straightforward and achievable, at least within ESPN’s platforms. The one place on ESPN in which you don’t see straight opinion is on the hard news side of the operation.

    “Writers, reporters, producers and editors directly involved in ‘hard’ news reporting, investigative or enterprise assignments and related coverage should refrain in any public-facing forum from taking positions on political or social issues, candidates or office holders.”

    The three key words here are “public-facing forum.” That expands this policy beyond ESPN’s borders and brings the Wild West of social media into play. In fact, later in the memo, it is said directly that the policy applies to “ESPN, Twitter, Facebook and other media.”

    This is where the potential for problems exists. ESPN news reporters tweeting political opinions from their own social accounts would technically violate this policy. Again, hard news reporters are less likely to use social media for this purpose than commentators, but how effective this policy is will depend on how hard executives choose to look at social media. Let’s be honest: It’s not too hard to find ESPN employees tweeting political opinions. Yes, much of that activity does fall within the new guidelines, which also note that those who do publicly express political views could be reassigned when covering stories. But the propriety of other posts is a tad murkier.

    “Outside of ‘hard’ news reporting, commentary related to political or social issues, candidates or office holders is appropriate on ESPN platforms consistent with these guidelines.”

    This is meaningful because, unlike the company’s previous policy, it states that commentary on political and social issues is OK. The previous policy not only didn’t say that but also conveyed a tone that suggested that dipping into political waters carried more danger than reward. Put another way, the new policy has gone from “It’s dangerous out there, so probably best to stay home” to “It’s dangerous out there, so here are some tools to best keep you safe.”

    “It’s a more positive, proactive stance,” Bengtson said. “If there’s a good reason to be discussing [politics], here’s how we can best help you do that to best help our audience.”

    “The topic should be related to a current issue impacting sports. This condition may vary for content appearing on platforms with broader editorial missions -- such as The Undefeated, FiveThirtyEight and espnW. Other exceptions must be approved in advance by senior editorial management.”

    The statement that topics should relate to sports is also new, though Stiegman left some wiggle room on that point. “We want to emphasize a direct connection to sports, understanding that’s the lens through which most fans view ESPN,” he said. “We also understand there may occasionally be exceptions that reference important, broader political topics. We just want to ensure those are thoughtful discussions, and meet the other criteria in the guidelines.”

    Said Bengtson: “I don’t think people are turning us on to hear us talk about social and political issues. When we can make a connection with sports, we should do so and do it smartly.”

    “The presentation should be thoughtful and respectful. We should offer balance or recognize opposing views, as warranted. We should avoid personal attacks and inflammatory rhetoric.”

    What is a “personal attack” and what’s considered “inflammatory”? As with many journalistic policy questions, those are subjective. And in policies like these, that can lead to caution.

    “There is always a layer of subjectivity in such areas,” Stiegman said. “Editors and producers will work with those offering opinions on these topics to ensure the dialogue and debate is thoughtful, respectful and as fair as possible.”

    The changes to the Elections guidelines are far less significant (see previous policy here), but there were a few changes of note.

    “All interviews, features, enterprise efforts or produced pieces involving candidates must first be approved by senior management. This is to ensure a coordinated and fair effort, and includes considerations as to location, interviewer, timing and format.”

    The interesting note here is what was removed from the previous version of the policy, which said, “All interviews, features, enterprise efforts or produced pieces with a sports angle, including attempts at humor (emphasis mine) involving candidates must first be approved by senior management team.”

    While this may seem to be in conflict with the guideline in the Political and Social Issues policy, I suspect the real reason it was deleted was to make sure employees understand that it applies to all political topics, not just those relating to sports.

    It’ll be interesting to see whether this new policy has an impact. These changes appear to be designed to remind employees of ESPN’s invaluable and lucrative connection to sports while also acknowledging -- rightfully, in my opinion -- that sports, culture and politics overlap in ways that cannot be ignored. But, in the end, the effectiveness of policies is usually related to the intensity of the enforcement.
     
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  15. fsudan

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    Cliffs: ESPN sucks ass
     
  16. Shawn Hunter

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  17. ButchCassidy

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    "i know we've won 5 titles, and just recently won one, but i think i'd rather have ARog."


    god damn ESPN. how the hell do people watch that crap?
     
  18. fsudan

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    I think they're talking about for the next 5 years, not the previous 5. It's a valid question, I think
     
  19. DuffandMuff

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    Craft

    Craft pizza
    Craft beer
    Craft cocktail
     
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  20. Chocolate Giddyup

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    [​IMG]
     
  21. fsudan

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    Sorry
     
  22. Joe_Pesci

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    for some reason a corny indie rock band called The Head and the Heart was on Sportscenter tonight
     
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  23. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

    joey jo-jo jr shabadoo you know for me, the action is the juice

    if you don't know what to make of this, then we will not relate
     
  24. je ne suis pas ici

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    The mass firings can turn into a blaze.

    The 40 to 50 pink slips that ESPN insider Jim Miller expected to be dished out may escalate to about 70 at the Worldwide Leader, according to the Sporting News. Talent from all over — from front-facing TV personalities to online writers — is in jeopardy as parent company Disney looks to slash costs.

    “This could be a bloodbath,” one source said, according to the report. And the carnage is coming soon: ESPN will start its Bristol-based layoffs as soon as Wednesday, according to Sports Illustrated.

    The writing has been on the wall for years with the sports entertainment behemoth dealing with declining revenues as more viewers cut the cord. The first victim in ESPN’s far-flung coverage was NFL reporter Paul Kuharsky, who announced Monday he will be let go in July. Former Mets beat writer Adam Rubin said in a Q&A last month that he jumped ship after ESPN told him he would be a casualty of the layoffs. upload_2017-4-25_16-41-43.gif

    In response to the grim reaper’s presence around campus, ESPN personalities have begun bargaining. Network anchors, according to Sporting News, have talked with management about taking pay cuts rather than facing the ax. The success of the compromises is not clear, but much of ESPN talent wants to make it understood they enjoy working there — and lack a fallback. There are on-air faces who make from $1.5 million to $3 million, Miller said, and lesser pay with the same exposure is tempting.

    ESPN reportedly has adopted the painful euphemism “right-sizing” to address the firings, a corporate sanitation that paints mass layoffs as nothing more than a company finding efficiency. Disney’s fiscal second-quarter earnings call comes on May 9, and its presentation to ad buyers follows on May 16. If the layoffs begin Wednesday, expect them to end by then.
     
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  25. Moxin24

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    It's weird we know this stuff
     
  26. TC

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    They have some good songs :twocents:
     
  27. duc15

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    I enjoy the Head and the Heart
     
  28. Joe_Pesci

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    idk it just seemed really out of place. plus neil everett was trying to be all cool. it's better than covering what nba players wear when they walk into the arena i guess.
     
  29. The Banks

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    I enjoy Heart

     
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  30. je ne suis pas ici

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    The job cuts, including television, radio and online personalities, will be announced Wednesday, and most will take effect immediately, the source said. ESPN also plans to cut what the source described as a limited number of additional off-air jobs.

    layoffs now up 100+, worse than reported. names should come out later today

    :popcorn:
     
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  31. Daddy Rabbit

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    I enjoy head
     
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  32. TimJimothy

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    I'd be more excited about hearing/seeing the names of folks chopped, but I'm assuming that I'll only recognize a couple/few of them. Been avoiding ESPN similar to Bravo.
     
  33. Moxin24

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    Ed Werder is gone.

    Also, don't be a shit and celebrate 100+ people getting laid off. Only celebrate the true fuckheads.
     
  34. Jigga

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    The ones that really should be won't which is what's bad.
     
  35. Boo MFer!

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  36. Jake Scott

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    They're laying off the people that are worth a shit. :facepalm: The most ESPN thing ever.
     
  37. Jake Scott

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    Fire the entire current Sportscenter cast. Perfect place to start.
     
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  38. Boo MFer!

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    Maybe they should stop trying to hire former players to be broadcasters, and instead, and here's a novel idea, hire professionally trained broadcasters.
     
  39. timo

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  40. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    They are axing reporters or "journalists" for the most part.

    Haven't seen one former athlete...broadcaster or otherwise canned. I dgaf about on air personalities and their shows.

    They fired the only people actually worth anything, insiders and reporters who gave us actual news, not stupid studio segments and content (Perfect example Tony K and Golic wearing makeup... screenshots on the last page). ESPN is not just dying, imo it's now dead.
     
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  41. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Edit: Danny kannel (sp?) Is gone.
     
  42. Boo MFer!

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    Good. Fuck him.
     
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  43. Jigga

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    And Trent Dilfer
     
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  44. BumpingNasties

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    Swear I heard him talking less than a month ago about firing everyone else but making him the main person on ESPN. I know it was a joke but now....we'll now it is actually funny
     
  45. Boo MFer!

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    That might be the only entertaining thing he ever did for the network.
     
  46. Moxin24

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    I've been home sick the last few days so I've been watching NFL Network's morning show.

    Its actually pretty good. Two guys who cover the NFL who seem to know their stuff. Nate Burleson is the former player who can handle himself on TV without being a cockbag like Deon Sanders or Michael Irvin and the host is a cute girl who isn't annoying or stupid.

    Why can't ESPN do this?
     
  47. mp_22

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    They fired there entire hockey team
     
  48. DollarBillHokie

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    Epic move while the playoffs are going on.
     
  49. devine

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    Melrose, bucci?