My 5 year old daughter is 42" tall. A 37" 5 year old would be in the 0% range for 5 year old girls and at the bottom for 4 year old boys. That's an enormous 2 year old, but he's not passing for 5.
Before I had kids I had absolutely no clue what a 2 year old or a 6 year old looked like. Would have gotten the ages of kids hilariously wrong if I was forced to guess.
It was a joke about him being big mixed with my desperation to get him some sort of protection beyond “natural immunity.” Learned people scoff at that for adults but are apparently more than complacent to let those in society with the least ability to fend for oneself have that as basically the only avenue of protection. I know he will not pass as a 5yo nor would I try. I doubt the dosing would be anywhere near ideal.
Honestly I was more interested because my daughter just turned 5 and was measured. I wasn't trying to be a scold. I think it's ridiculous that you can't get your son vaccinated yet.
Peter A. McCullough Truth for Health Foundation, Tucson, AZ, USA (His personal email) @gmail.com Lmfao " mRNA vaccines suppress type I IFN leading to a cascade of deleterious downstream effects that lead to various pathologies they associate with vaccination based on VAERs report " That's a covid infection thing not a vaccine thing
Because it’s pure theatre for the likes of you. It is a small part of day to day life for most people. It is though the day to day job of many people.
No, you dumbass, the problem with planes spreading disease isn’t contact with the planes themselves. It’s that they ferry carriers across the country and bring them into contact with multiple people. The average time an American spends in one is completely irrelevant to the discussion of their role. That’s why his tweet was stupid.
We are talking for aircrew here. The worst for them is probably actually the in flight service where they take orders from customers who then proceed to munch it a couple of feet from them. We had literally the exact same mass flight cancellations here post Christmas and we had a higher grade mask requirement.
NOT an issue when the virus is endemic across the globe. Flights are clearly THE issue early on in a novel outbreak, and the chaps on here squealing for masks are the very same ones squealing about the China ban. For a new variant- it’s failed largely because we are always behind the data.
Again, the argument you are making has nothing to do with Nate’s tweet or my post about how completely fucking stupid and irrelevant it was.
Took a test Wednesday night and again Thursday. Never tested positive and I felt 100% a few hours after posting i was feeling shitty.
My boss told me he had a really good doctor that, "you probably won't like" that can help my wife with Covid. He said he makes a cocktail of Zinc, horse paste, and some other random stuff. I asked if he was joking and he kept going stronger. My god.
The 85 year old guy in Aventura talking to the doorman at our hotel: “my doctor told me I didn’t need the vaccine”. “I’m still here”. hello survivorship bias
Again, his post was not “stupid and irrelevant”. What is stupid and irrelevant is saying the below: It’s that they ferry carriers across the country and bring them into contact with multiple people That’s an issue when the virus is not endemic. It makes no odds that someone goes from Logan to DFW and goes to X number of sites and sees Y number of people. You would go to X number of sites and see Y number of people if you stayed in the same city and would over a period of months have the exact same chance of catching it. As the thing has been rampant for months. This is backed up by the Scientists at European Centre for Disease Control who made this exact point. “where SARS-CoV-2 is established in all EU/EEA countries and the UK, imported cases account for a very small proportion of all detected cases and are unlikely to significantly increase the rate of transmission.” https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publi...ovid-19-testing-and-quarantine-air-travellers The fact that you can’t articulate the real argument for keeping masks on planes is telling. That other simpleton ~ taylor ~ is in now as well I see and probably cant help you either. The real reason to have masks on a plane when the virus is endemic is to protect immunocompromised persons. Planes can be deemed essential for people, unlike a bar or restaurant. However over time that has to be balanced against the overall risk profile and the working life of people who work on planes. Wearing a mask forever is not practical or right for air crew. The fact is that your greatest risk is from a person a row in front or behind you & they can munch away on food during a flight negates quite a bit of any perceived benefit. The best thing is to ensure access to high qualify respirators and masks for those people, something they can use well beyond the 5 hours Americans spend on a plane annually. As for air crew, it is telling that the largest Union did not fair a position on it and some came out against it. If you really want to help them, keep pushing for America to join the first world with proper sick pay. The masks are there to make you feel better and that’s not really compelling enough anymore.
That study you quoted was from December 20202, was done while airlines had masking requirements and many European countries had internal mask requirements, and was intended to address whether testing and quarantines were necessary. I'm sure it is relevant to masking in April 2022. It also said: ECDC has updated its guidance for COVID-19 on quarantine and testing of travellers and recommends that non-essential travel be avoided. In addition to recommendations against non-essential travel and restrictions on travel for those infected, travel measures such as the testing and quarantine of travellers can be considered, in particular, for travellers from areas with a higher incidence of variants with immune escape potential (e.g. B.1.135, or P.1). If sequencing is inadequate to exclude the possibility of a higher incidence of the new variants, as per ECDC guidance on genomic sequencing, proportionate travel measures should also be considered from areas where there is continued high level of community transmission. So you're suggesting we drop masking, but go back to limiting non-essential travel and testing and quarantines while/where there is high levels of community spread? I disagree with your conclusion and would instead just have people wear masks. And maybe require vaccination cards. Also, the suggestion that we're discussing flight attendants wearing masks forever is a strawman. It's a debate device similar to you using the emotive language like the term "mask theater" over and over or throwing out a red herring like the biggest risk is people eating during the flight, which is simply not true. It's why I choose to use ad hominen attacks instead of engaging you back; you haven't earned the respect you think your spamming this thread deserves and have rather shown there is no utility to responding to you unless people want posting practice. Cheers.
Which is neither here nor there, the point still stands. It contributes minimal to amounts to spread where the virus already has spread. That is logical, engage your brain a tad. As for the bolded - are you advocating for no one to travel or for masks?
No I’m asking why you bolded that specific bit? The ECDC position I pointed to did not talk of either or at the time so what’s your point? The point was on spread once the virus is endemic. Bringing up that you go from X to Y and meet people is irrelevant once the virus is endemic in both X and Y. There is an argument in favour of masks- I didn’t say there wasn’t. I don’t agree with them at this point but I took issue with that specific line or argument.
Seems the hepatitis being spread around may be due to an adenovirus? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/04/21/hepatitis-children-adenovirus-unknown/ The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a nationwide health alert Thursday about an unusual cluster of serious hepatitis cases in young children for which the cause, or causes, is not known. Federal health officials and the Alabama Department of Public Health are investigating nine cases of hepatitis in children 1-to-6 years old who were hospitalized between October 2021 and February 2022 with significant liver injury. All of the children were previously healthy, officials said, and two required liver transplants. There are no reported deaths. CDC’s alert is to notify physicians and public health authorities nationwide to be on the lookout for symptoms and report suspected cases. None of the children were hospitalized because of a coronavirus infection, officials said. The children were from across the state and officials have found no epidemiological link connecting them. North Carolina also had two cases in school-age children, neither of whom needed a liver transplant and subsequently recovered, according to North Carolina Department of Health spokesperson Bailey Pennington. No cause has been found and no common exposures were identified. State officials are working with the state’s poison control center and epidemiologists to look for potential cases, Pennington said in an email. The U.S. cases come after European counterparts reported an unusual outbreak of severe hepatitis in dozens of previously healthy children — also without a known cause. Symptoms of hepatitis, or inflammation of the liver, include fever, fatigue, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, dark urine, light-colored stools, joint pain and jaundice. Officials are investigating a possible association between pediatric hepatitis and adenovirus, a family of viruses that causes a range of infections, most commonly respiratory illnesses. “At this time, adenovirus may be the cause for these, but investigators are still learning more, including ruling out other possible causes and identifying other possible contributing factors,” the CDC said in a statement. All nine children in Alabama tested positive for adenoviruses, which are spread by respiratory droplets and touching infected people or virus on surfaces. Adenoviruses most commonly cause respiratory illnesses, but they can also cause inflammation of the stomach. The virus rarely causes hepatitis. In Europe, the United Kingdom has reported 108 cases; 79 cases are in England. The first case was in January in Scotland. Spain has confirmed three cases and Ireland is investigating a handful of cases, according to the World Health Organization. European health authorities have also reported cases in Denmark and the Netherlands. In the U.K., eight children have undergone liver transplants, according to the U.K. Health Security Agency. No deaths have been reported. Adenovirus has been confirmed in some of the European cases, but not all, the CDC said. Several of the U.K. patients also had coronavirus infections, the WHO said. None of the children in the U.K., who were all under age 10, had been vaccinated against coronavirus, according to the U.K. Health Security Agency. Hepatitis can be triggered by a variety of factors, from toxic chemicals to autoimmune disorders and viruses that cause chickenpox and the common cold. The most common causes of viral hepatitis are the hepatitis A, B, and C viruses. Those common causes have been ruled out in the Alabama children, the CDC said. They have also been ruled out in the U.K. children, authorities there said. Alabama’s first cases were identified in October 2021. Five children were admitted to a children’s hospital with significant liver injury, including some with acute liver failure. There was no known cause. All tested positive for adenovirus, the CDC said. After further investigation, the hospital identified four more cases, all of whom had liver injury and adenovirus infection. Five of the nine tested positive for a specific type of adenovirus, adenovirus 41, which more commonly causes pediatric acute gastroenteritis, said Karen Landers, a health officer with the Alabama Department of Public Health. Symptoms typically include diarrhea, vomiting and fever and can often be accompanied by respiratory symptoms, the CDC health alert said. While there have been case reports of hepatitis in immunocompromised children with adenovirus infection, “adenovirus type 41 is not known to be a cause of hepatitis in otherwise healthy children,” the health alert said. CDC is asking physicians to consider adenovirus testing for pediatric patients with hepatitis of unknown cause and to report any such cases. Amy Edwards, a pediatric infectious-disease specialist at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies & Children’s Hospital in Cleveland, said that with mild cases of hepatitis parents and children may not even know there is an issue and it will resolve itself. More serious cases will be very obvious, she said, with a child becoming increasingly fatigued or jaundiced with abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting. “The main thing parents may be wondering is, ‘What if my kid has hepatitis and I don’t know it?’ But if you don’t know it, the child has such mild symptoms it does not matter,” she explained. “If it’s a bad case, there will be symptoms.” Edwards said she’s following news about the outbreaks closely, but “at this time I’m not particularly concerned and I don’t think parents need to be concerned.” With the lifting of mask mandates and social distancing restrictions, children may be more susceptible to infections after being isolated from one another for a long time. “Now that COVID is down, viral interference has been released and I think we are going to see a lot of old pathogens coming back and maybe some new ones, which worries me too,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious-disease expert at the University of California at San Francisco. (spliff note: lmao there she is) At Children’s Mercy Kansas City, physician Ryan Fischer said his area has not seen an increase in hepatitis cases similar to what has been seen in Alabama. The hospital typically sees one to three cases of pediatric liver failure needing transplants annually or close to it. This year, there have been four patients and two of those patients also had coronavirus, Fischer said. “It’s really interesting and incredibly difficult to try to figure out why they have it,” said Fischer, who is chief of the section of hepatology and transplant medicine. “First and foremost, having acute liver failure is exceptionally rare, even in this time of heightened awareness,” he said. This is the first time in his career that he’s heard of clusters of liver failures in different countries like this in children.
Where it mentions against non essential travel and quarantine? Again, what does that have to do with the point at hand? The hope in April 2021 was to avoid those variants from quarantine measures ie where there is a new VOC. I mentioned this above- this was an argument in favour of mitigations such as quarantine but failed everywhere tried. It failed for Alpha, Delta and Omicron. Quarantine is far more effective than masks so what’s the point. But I digress, the key point on masks is not that they currently stop geographic spread on planes. That race is long run. The debate really comes down to immunocompromised persons and I am sympathetic to it as a first order argument but I don’t think it stacks up ultimately. For the general population is really is only 5 hours a year, where as they could spend 20 hours in a grocery store a year.
It's tiresome to hear all of the straw men that get thrown up for the most basic public health mitigation tools. We can't mask/vaccinate b/c they're not 100% effective. You shouldn't mask up on a flight to Dallas b/c covid is already in Dallas. Mask mandates are useless b/c some people will wear cloth masks. N95s are not worth using b/c not many people can get a good fit. I have natural immunity so I don't need to use vaccines/masks. What are we gonna do, get a booster shot every 6 months forever? You mask wearers want to make it so that we have to wear masks forever.
If we've learned anything over the last 2 years it is that waiting until things are out of hand is too late, and stopping doing things right when it seems like things are getting better is too early. But we're probably not going to do anything at this point.
Patient Dies After Record 505 Day Battle With COVID-19 By Bill Galluccio April 22, 2022 a record 505-day battle with COVID-19. The unidentified patient first tested positive in 2020 and made over 50 visits to the hospital over the past 72 weeks. Each time they were at the hospital, they were tested for COVID-19, and each time, the test came back positive. Doctors said that the patient, who was immunocompromised, did not have long COVID and was instead suffering from "one continuous infection." "These were throat swab tests that were positive each time. The patient never had a negative test. And we can tell it was one continuous infection because the genetic signature of it - the information we got from sequencing the viral genome - was unique and constant in that patient," Dr. Luke Blagdon Snell told the BBC. He was one of nine patients being monitored after continuously testing positive for the virus. Four of the patients, who all had weakened immune systems, have since died. The average length of infections lasted 72 days. Another patient has been fighting COVID for over 400 days and could break the record if they survive. They are undergoing antibody treatments, but so far, the treatment has not worked. Researchers are trying to understand why these patients are not recovering from their initial infection.
Is ‘record’ really the best word to use when someone dies? The headline could probably get the same point across without trying to put someone’s name in the Guinness Book of World Records.
Flight from Providence to Chicago tonight: Maybe 20% of people in Providence airport wore masks. Maybe 10% on my flight wore masks. Maybe 5% of people in the O’Hare terminal were wearing masks. We’re going to fucking keep this going forever because we’re stupid fucking idiots. I don’t want to fly again any time soon. Fucking insanity.
If you have vulnerable people in your circles, might be worth calling around at various pharmacies to see if Paxlovid is available. Paxlovid has to be prescribed by your physician and has several drug interactions. https://archive.ph/Xe1jy Spoiler: NYT article on therapeutics OPINION ZEYNEP TUFEKCI Covid Drugs Save Lives, but Americans Can’t Get Them April 22, 2022 By Zeynep Tufekci Opinion Columnist Almost two months after President Biden promised to make lifesaving drugs against Covid widely available to Americans, the medications remain hard to get for many, despite supplies, leaving large numbers of Americans to face increased risks of avoidable death and serious illness. That’s largely because, once again, a dysfunctional health care system that costs more and often delivers less than that of any other developed country has hindered our pandemic response. As was the case with vaccines, the United States quickly snapped up these therapeutics and accumulated vastly more supply than any other country. These drugs do not replace vaccines but provide crucial extra protections for vulnerable people who number in the millions and who face increased risks as the few remaining public health protections are rolled back. Paxlovid, an antiviral treatment developed by Pfizer, an American pharmaceutical company, is highly effective for reducing hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients, as long as it is started early. This is especially important for elderly or immunocompromised people, since their immune systems are not as robust as others’ against viruses, even when vaccinated. In his State of the Union address, Biden announced a Test to Treat initiative to provide such pills on the spot in pharmacies when someone tests positive. spent three hours driving around Washington, D.C., before finding a pharmacy where testing was available and the drug was in stock — something we should not expect sick people to do. When trying to book appointments online in several states, the reporter was sometimes denied an in-person appointment after listing upper-respiratory symptoms and a positive coronavirus test, even though the point of the program is to treat people with respiratory illness so they don’t get sicker. Many places did not have any same-day appointments, a big obstacle for a drug that should be given as quickly as possible. The greater difficulty is that the drug can be prescribed only by a medical doctor, advanced practice registered nurse or physician assistant, especially because it can interact harmfully with many other drugs. It cannot be prescribed by a pharmacist. Many pharmacies aren’t participating in the national program because they don’t have a clinic on site where a health practitioner can assess a person’s eligibility. Even if they have one, managing prescriptions for high-risk people is best done by a patient’s regular doctor, not in a one-off encounter at a pharmacy. Patients who successfully wangle an appointment are asked to bring a list of all their drugs and, I suppose, resolve all the complexities in one sitting. As further congressional funding has not been approved, the funds used for reimbursement for coronavirus testing have begun to be depleted, so people without insurance or whose insurance doesn’t cover such clinics have to pay for the health appointment out of pocket. So it’s not hard to predict that many people will be left behind. What about those with proper health insurance and a primary care physician? Fine, as long as your doctor is aware of the drug and you can get an appointment quickly and then locate the drug. Several physicians have told me they had to intervene on behalf of their elderly or high-risk relatives who tested positive, calling their health care providers directly to persuade them to prescribe the antiviral. These may be anecdotal, but even Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the president’s chief medical adviser, noted last week that the drug was “being underutilized.” millions of immunocompromised people, like transplant patients and those on medications that can suppress the immune system for conditions like rheumatoid arthritis. In trials, the drug reduced symptomatic infections by about 83 percent at six months. This drug provides them with extra protection for six months as a prophylactic. It’s been approved for months, and Biden also mentioned treatments for the immunocompromised in his State of the Union address. The federal government bought 1,700,000 doses, to be distributed free. So I guess this is where I should say, “Stop me if you heard this before.” In March, The New York Times reported that a whopping 80 percent of the doses were sitting unused as the Omicron wave washed over the country. A CNN investigation found desperate patients unable to find the drug, doctors unaware that it even exists and some pharmacies with hundreds of unused doses while others had none. Hospitals like the Mayo Clinic told CNN that they had only a few thousand boxes for the more than 10,000 patients who could benefit from it, while boxes were delivered to medical spas offering Botox or eyelash extensions (and sitting unused). The Detroit Free Press found supplies of Paxlovid and Evusheld unused because physicians weren’t prescribing them. A Kaiser Health News investigation found that government maps of supplies were missing many locations that had doses. This happened even as desperate patients waited for lotteries to allocate some to them. Social media is also replete with stories of despondent patients unable to locate doses or managing to do so after much effort and paying extra when they ended up out of their insurance networks. Meanwhile, at least one infusion center had so many unused doses that it ran out of refrigerator space and declined new shipments. What makes this all more troubling is that conditions like diabetes and uncontrolled high blood pressure increase the dangers of Covid and the United States has had a worse record on such health indicators than many other wealthy nations. Not having a regular relationship with a medical provider — too common in the United States — leaves these high-risk people open to confusion and misinformation, especially in the current political environment. People without insurance lagged in being vaccinated at all and will face more obstacles in getting antivirals. 58 percent of people have received a third vaccine dose. In the United States the number is a measly 30 percent. Well, I should say we think it is; without a national health system, the United States has difficulty keeping track of the numbers. The failure to reach more people with a third dose, shown by the data to greatly help with outcomes, cannot be blamed solely on anti-vaccination attitudes, as 66 percent of the U.S. population had received two doses. In October 2019 a Johns Hopkins study found the United States more prepared than any other country for a pandemic. Obviously, that prediction did not age well. But taking a look at how the study got it wrong is instructive. On many of the indicators the researchers examined, the United States ranked highly, often in the top five, with one conspicuous exception: access to health care. On that measure, the researchers placed the United States 183rd out of 195 countries. In retrospect, maybe they should have made that the primary criterion. What is the point of talking about health care access and outlining how it manifests itself in failure after failure, given that the Republican Party seems determined to block progress and even roll back what little improvement we have had with the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare? The most important reason is that to do otherwise would restrict the possibilities for change and our political imagination even further. Lowering the eligibility age for Medicare to 60 and then to 55 and expanding the Veterans Health Administration, the largest integrated health care system in the country, to include firefighters, social workers, teachers and others who serve their communities are among the options that should become part of the political conversation. And any obstacles on the federal level should inspire states to overcome these problems themselves and even build their own systems. New York City, for example, has created a hotline to provide Covid information, including how to get Paxlovid free, with home delivery, and how those without a doctor can reach one quickly through a telehealth appointment. In the earlier waves, the hotline also connected people with free hotel rooms if they needed to isolate away from their homes. It will also allow people to request delivery of basic supplies like masks and thermometers to their homes. And I’ve seen all this advertised a lot, including on local TV stations. We need more such efforts. There’s more the federal government can do now, like start a robust physician and patient outreach program and work to clarify and balance the supply of therapeutics for Covid so that millions of immunocompromised people can better protect themselves and high-risk people who get infected can avoid severe disease. However, states should be aware that this may not be coming and should begin their own programs and maybe even cooperate to build shared infrastructure. Under these political conditions, rescue may not be on its way for a long time, if ever. We can at least try to build better lifeboats, locally, wherever possible.
Some ppl considered that ruling a win for biden. Really not sure on that but seems like we’ll find out.
I’ll get a shot as long as I have to. I’ll wear a mask as long as I can. Headphones and a mask on public transportation and I’m not bothered. Mask in a store and I’m left alone. They are the best.
Wife and I walked in to CVS this morning to get our 2nd boosters. No appointment, handed the pharmacist our vax cards and he was shooting us up 10 minutes later. We celebrated with a nice brunch and a long nap this afternoon. Both of us feel fine 8 hours later.