9 at the start of the book GOT? And 5 years older in the show, so 14? What about at the end of adwd, how much time has passed? Read somewhere that beinhoff called her out as the child actor to watch.
From game of thrones to DwD it's been about 2.5 years to a little over 3 years. Somewhere around that time line. 298AL-300AL
We've discussed the ages before, but I think I've come to the conclusion that the show characters are supposed to be older than the books but they just aren't going to say it one way or the other.
You're off by a week 13 3"What Is Dead May Never Die"[1]Alik Sakharov Bryan Cogman April 15, 2012[1] Catelyn Stark arrives at King Renly's camp to negotiate an alliance. Tyrion also tries to gain supports for Joffrey's cause by proposing three different marriages. At Winterfell, Bran Stark needs help to decipher his dreams. 14 4"Garden of Bones"[1]David Petrarca Vanessa Taylor April 22, 2012[1] Catelyn tries to convince the Baratheon brothers to abandon their quarrel and unite against the Lannisters, while Sansa is chastised by Joffrey in revenge for her brother's victories. Arya and Gendry are taken captives to the castle of Harrenhal. After her exhausting journey through the desert, Daenerys arrives at the gates of the prosperous city of Qarth. 15 5"The Ghost of Harrenhal"[1]David Petrarca David Benioff & D. B. Weiss April 29, 2012[1] In Harrenhal, Arya Stark is promised help by the mysterious Jaqen H’ghar, one of the three caged prisoners during her trip to the Wall. The new situation at Renly's camp forces Catelyn to flee. Theon sails from Pyke prepared to prove that he is a true Ironborn. The Night's Watch arrive at an ancient fortress called the Fist of the First Men, where they intend to make a stand.
so i havent read this thread at all, but how are they going to play the gilly/mance baby switch if craster just sacrificed that baby.
Asha still isn't hot enough. Arya's story is still the best. Liked that they put that moment of Theon with his letter. Overall pleased with the changes in this episode.
Not too mad at the changes from the book this episode. I assume that was Aeron with the "baptism" so thats pretty cool because I thought they had taken him out of the show.
best episode of the new season Team Margaery all the way...normally I like my women larger breasted but damn, she is fly
He played that trick in the book to find out who he could trust, I don't remember if that was exactly the way it went down.
Yeah he def did it I just didn't remember if one of them went to Theon. One was to Dorne, one to the Vale and I thought the third was Highgarden
Also I don't like how the show portrays Cersei as some sympathetic figure. She's a cold hearted bitch hopefully they start showing her truthfully as the season progresses
Great episode best of the season imo. Awesome scene there between Tyrion and Varys that was in the season preview. Love this new scene with Yoren and Arya explain where her nightly prayer comes from and the twist on which one was Gendry was cool.
I like how they mentioned that Margaery isn't a virgin already, since those accusations are thrown around a bunch in ADWD.
allow me to amend my statement...Riot/rape scene where Lollys gets raped right after Myrcella gets sent to Dorne
Ah ok got it. When she takes who she thinks is Shae and whips her should be another good scene too to show off her cuntiness
good episode, liked the titties. fuck theon, watching him burn the letter just makes everything worse. wonder if red wedding will be in the first part of season three or the second. Margaery >>>>>>>>>Khaleesi >>>Shae>>Cersei>>>>>>>>>>Asha>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grey Wind>>>>>Brienne
If the the red wedding is the episode he is writing then it will be the 7th episode in the first part of the season.
Correct. During their 'baptism' they are drowned in the sea (given to the drowned god), and resuscitated. So in their religion, the drowned god's followers are already dead. Hence "What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger."
Always thought the drowned god was gay. CPR, wow! Please, tell me about your God's awesome power, damphair. Not bothered that they cut the drowning. Also, was Theon already drowned as a child? For some reason I am thinking that this was just a blessing and it was the same in the book. I know the book discussed drownings, but I thought that was damphair's disciples.
If anything Cersei gets more sympathetic in the books as things go along but starts off pure evil. They made a conscious choice to not make her the evil wench she is in the books and I don't they'll back off of it.
He matched Tommen and Margaery together after the Blackwater battle to bring the Tyrell's back in the fold. Actually it was Margaery and Joffrey at first before grandma Tyrell had him murked
So I looked it up and I guess he trusted Varys already as he just told the two stories to Pycelle and Littlefinger. Don't really care about the change I just didn't think the Greyjoys were ever mentioned in the book for that part and they weren't. Spoiler Tyrion takes his breakfast with Grand Maester Pycelle. He gives Pycelle two copies of a letter for Prince Doran Martell that must go out by raven at once. While Pycelle is out sending them, Tyrion goes to the Grand Maester's collection of herbs and potions and takes a vial. After breakfast, he comes across Bronn, now the captain of his personal guard, studying some knights training below. Bronn points out a hedge knight named Tallad as the best of them, but says that he falls into a rhythm. Bronn reports that Lady Tanda is looking for him again. She has been having him over for savory dinners in an effort to get him to marry her large, soft, dim-witted daughter, Lollys, who is still a maid at age thirty-three. Others begging an audience include a moneylender from Braavos looking for repayment of a loan, a river lord asking for recompense for his slaughtered peasants, some bakers, butchers, and greengrocers asking for protection after a baker was burned alive in his own oven for charging too much for bread, and Ser Alliser Thorne with a rotted hand in a jar.1 Tyrion decides he will not see Ser Alliser and orders poor quarters found for him. Bronn departs, and Tyrion continues on his way. As Tyrion nears the main gate, he sees Cersei preparing to ride into the city with Ser Boros; Ser Balon; Lord Gyles; Hallyne the Pyromancer, Cersei's new favorite; Lancel, who is now a knight; Vylarr; and twenty Lannister house guards. She is inspecting the progress on the city's defenses and is alarmed because she has learned that Renly is marching up the roseroad towards King's Landing. His host includes all the Tyrell bannermen save the Redwynes; Lord Paxter did not march because his sons2�are hostages. Tyrion is unconcerned because Renly is taking his time, feasting at every castle he passes and holding court at every crossroads. Cersei demands that Tyrion make Tywin bring his army to the city. Tyrion says that is impossible, and Cersei declares he is useless and rides off. When Tyrion returns to his chambers, Podrick tells him that Lord Petyr awaits. Petyr beckons Tyrion over to the window to see Joffrey, guarded by Ser Preston, using hares for target practice with a crossbow. He is not hitting all that many of them. Tyrion notices that Petyr is wearing a dagger with a�dragonbone�hilt and knows Petyr is doing so to taunt him.3 Tyrion has been trying to find out all he can about Petyr since he is a certain opponent. Lord Jon Arryn gave him a minor sinecure in customs ten years ago, and he soon brought in three times as much gold as the king's other collectors. Three years later, he was master of coin and soon increased revenues to ten times their previous level, though the debt has also grown greatly in that time. All the major treasury offices and most of the minor ones are held by men he appointed. Tyrion asks if Petyr grew close to the Tullys while he was fostered there, and he states he had both Catelyn's and Lysa's maidenheads.4 Tyrion tells Petyr that he wants him to send a message to Lysa promising Lord Jon's killer, respite from mountain clan raids that have grown more intense�of late, a betrothal between Myrcella�and Robert, and the naming of Robert�as Warden of the East in exchange for her fealty and support against Renly and Stannis. Lord Petyr asks what is in it for him, and Tyrion says Harrenhal and overlordship of the Trident. Soon after Petyr leaves, Galt comes in to announce that Varys has arrived. Tyrion says he has a plan, and Varys says he may already know it. Tyrion tells him to continue. Varys notes that Prince Doran has called his banners but has not moved to join any side, and posits that Tyrion wants to convince him to join the Lannister cause. Tyrion says that this is correct and that he will offer the prince a seat on the small council, his sister Elia's killers, and Tommen as a ward. Varys wonders how Tyrion plans to pry both Tommen and Myrcella away from Cersei, and Tyrion says he will do it by keeping his plans a secret. Varys then asks what happens if someone tells her before the arrangements are made, and Tyrion says that he will then know who is an informant for Cersei. Previous Chapter (Bran II) Next Chapter (Sansa II)