Arkansas fans should be happy. Auburn helps with the buyout, and if he is shit then great for Arkansas. I maintain that Butch Jones is an elite special teams coach. And you should hire him.
Oh I am happy. Telling the retarded Auburn fans that he sucks isn’t going to make him suck more or less
I hope so. Hogs would stop paying his buyout like they did to Bert when he decided to only take $50k from the patriots
i wonder how many people around the smu area you would have to ask before someone knows who chad morris is
Looks like he’s either trying to drink away the Arkansas debacle memories or he’s about to hit up the Bourbon trail while on some bogus recruiting trip. Either way, RED FUCKING FLAG!!!
Honestly most Hog fans know his impact is going to be minimal on the play calling there. Gus calls the plays and everyone knows it. The best thing for us is it’s high paying job traditionally which will lower our buyout payments. We love that. It does have a bit of a feel like when HDN resigned and two days later took the Ole Miss job. We knew then it wasn’t going to work out long term but also knew the next year he was probably going to come into our house and kick our ass. I expect a similar outcome with Morris next year. He is a damn good offensive mind and a hell of a recruiter. Funny thing is Auburn doesn’t need much help on the recruiting front. They do a good enough job as it is. The interesting thing to me is two weeks ago Auburn fans were adamant that Gus wasn’t the guy. My question is, “does a Gus Chad combination make Gus the guy?” Is this a long term fix? That is what I meant when I said interesting.
Gus hasn't been the guy because he can't get out of his way on Offense. We always hold out hope that someone can get him to listen and take something new in. Its highly unlikely that this is the solution but with every one of these moves it builds up hope, for us only to be let down come September. Maybe at least our QB's won't regress yearly like they have under Gus.
Gus is definitely going to continue calling the plays, but with Morris’s familiarity with Gus’s system and Morris’s more advanced passing schemes, the hope is some of that is added to the current offense. Gus’s biggest weakness in his offense is the simplistic passing schemes that only really effective when he can establish the run and play at pace. And maybe Morris keeps Gus from becoming so predictable with the situational play calling, which he has a tendency to do. Plus, Morris has had success improving QB play as an OC, which I know Arkansas fans will argue and laugh at given what transpired the last two years there. Anybody that can even remotely improve our QB fundamentals is a plus over Gus or Kodi Burns or some other random Joe Blow Gus might be hired. In all honesty, I’m not holding my breath that any obvious or drastic changes happen, but Morris is probably the best OC we could get given the Gus situation. As for the long-term situation, Morris is a 1-2 year stay here. We will probably pay him somewhere around $1 mil, and we will probably want him to stay for at least two for recruiting and continuity. But this doesn’t feel like a long-term play. Morris is going to try to find a HC job again somewhere. And all of this doesn’t change my thoughts that Gus can’t consistently produce offensively in big games, especially on the road. The schedule looks decent for next year, but we could still go 9-3 with losses to LSU and road losses to Bama and UGA. That will have him right back on the hot seat. IMO he has a bigger issue beating UGA and LSU than Bama. He has to start winning against LSU and UGA. The Bama win, while a good win for us, doesn’t really change my opinion of him, and the Morris gore doesn’t either.
Morris advanced passing schemes? This is going to be great to watch we didn’t run a single crossing route against man in 2 years
Auburn fans are just frustrated with Gus when we beat the hell out of teams one week and then look anemic the next. They've also been driven insane by the success of UGA and Bama recently and act like the reason is all Gus, when the reality is that Gus has done a pretty great job given what he is up against. We aren't the state school and we've been going up against the greatest coach in CFB history. During Saban's reign we've won 2 SECC and a natty and played for another SEC championship/natty. I don't think that happens without Gus. I'm sure we'd be decent and maybe more consistent, but who's to say we don't make two bad hires in a row and turn into Tennessee? What happens if like Willie Taggart followed Chizik? Gus is a scapegoat for the logistic realities we face in the SEC West as a non-state school up against Georgia, Louisiana, and Alabama and it's frustrating as a fan with expectations that are kinda ridiculous.
Welcome to our world. Gus just discovered them in the last couple years. It may shock you, as bad as you think Morris is, he still has a more advanced passing scheme than Malzahn. Chip Lindsey helped Malzahn expand a little (that's when the crossers showed up), but it's still really basic. Morris has always used a TE in his schemes. Not sure Gus knows how to spell tight end. He also brings a lot more variety to the RPO game, which Gus has tried to expand but just doesn't have the knowledge to do so since it's never really been his forte.If we get that, it will be a significant improvement. And with Nix being mobile enough, he should be effective with a ramped up RPO system.
All the disadvantages aside, you can't go 2-6 versus UGA, 2-5 against LSU (0-3 against Orgeron), and be 0-10 on the road against LSU, UGA, and Bama and expect Auburn fans to be happy with that. You can't constantly shit your pants offensively in road games against ranked opponents. Sure, our three chief rivals have built-in advantages over us, but either you're a good enough coach to find ways to overcome those advantages or you are and we move on. Beating up the weaker teams in the SEC doesn't mean anything if you can't consistently compete with the teams at the top. And IMO no team or their fans is ever going to be happy being middle of the road year after year and having the same losses every year.
If we have a great year next year and the offense looks improved, he will start getting mentioned in the head coaching carousel next year. It will be sold as Arkansas being an impossible position for him to succeed and not having enough time to rebuild, whether that's true or not. If he stays and puts together 2 good years of offense, he won't be here in year three.
In 84 regular-season games since 2013, Gus Malzahn's Auburn teams have faced: 35 ranked teams 19 top-10 teams 14 top-5 teams 5 No. 1 teams
I have it a little differently on the breakdowns but still close. Ranked teams: 13-22 (3-12 road) Top 10: 6-17 (0-8 road) Top 5: 3-12 (0-5 road) #1 Team: 1-5 (0-2 road) Against LSU, UGA, and Bama Bama: 3-4, all ranked, 0-3 on the road UGA: 2-6, 1-4 when UGA is ranked, 1-2 when UGA is unranked, 0-3 on the road LSU: 2-5, 1-5 when LSU is ranked, haven't won a road game there since '99 Edited to add that Gus's last true road win against a ranked opponent was Ole Miss in 2014. We also won at Kansas St earlier that year. We beat aTm on the road this year, but the rankings I used were end-of-year rankings, and aTm wasn't ranked to end the season.
This is why the rivals being so strong and Saban being the GOAT coach theory holds no water. Gus has been pedestrian at best against any team with a pulse. Yes, he beats the shit out of inferior teams and looks like a genius when we get to play a middle of the road team in a bowl like Purdue. But, when he coaches against teams with similar or better talent that are familiar with his scheme, he is completely inept. Auburn recruits entirely too well and has entirely too many resources to only beat our rivals this infrequently. Good is the enemy of great and too many Auburn people are so submissive to Alabama and Georgia to realize that these records should always be very close to even for a decent coach. I am not saying that Gus should be winning 75 percent of the games against the big three every year, but he should not be losing close to as many as he is. An earlier poster made a good point that Auburn would botch the search anyway and hire a Taggart type. That is probably spot on. Auburn thinks coaches should teach sunday school, but then they ran off Tubs and all he did was dominate our rivals and win with much less talent.
Have you watched Auburn’s offense in the last 6-7 years? We lost at Clemson two years ago because we either said “run deep” to our WRs or threw screens.
Wait you think Tubs shouldn't have been fired after the results of him mailing it in started showing up?
For real. His last recruiting class was a clusterfuck of massive proportions. I'll go to my grave believing that Tubs was intentionally shoving it to the Auburn boosters for the whole jetgate scandal. Because he just said fuck it on the recruiting trail and tried to make an asinine offensive philosophy change while not letting the OC bring in any assistants. He sabotaged himself.
I don't disagree with what you said, but the administration made no attempt to make amends for JetGate. The very end of Tubs was lacking, but the results all but the last year or two were amazing. They pushed him out for the last 5 years he was there, but they keep Gus for some reason. Auburn needs to decide if they want to use the advantages that being in the SEC and being a high tier coaching job or if they want to pretend that Bear is still at Alabama forever and that Auburn cannot beat them in any context. The fanbase is either disappointed in the mediocrity or thrilled to be mediocre and occasionally beat bama. Seems like the beat bama crowd would be much more interested in not losing 4-5 games many years.
Tubs did not dominate our rivals with much less talent. He dominated with superior talent and then got lazy as fuck, especially once Saban came to town. I love tubs, but thank god we got rid of him when we did.
The Cocks might have a chance to beat Auburn if he’s still there the next time they play. Clemsons rise to prominence might have come sooner if he didn’t hang around there so long. If anything went wrong, the offense would panic and never really recover.