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  1. DetroitNole

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    Think we are looking at the trade market. But honestly Edvinsson, Johansson, Kasper, Berggren, Mazur and Danielson could all get extended/partial looks. Still think we need a RD and another winger. We'll see where this goes
     
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  2. Vinegar Strokes

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    We are not really any better than we were last year at this point.
     
  3. DetroitNole

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    Well yea, because we haven't made all our moves yet....I think a deal for a Defenseman is coming (Ekblad or Trouba) and another move or two coming. I'll take this though over giving Stamkos that contract, and bringing back Perron. I'll wait until offseason is over before making sweeping statements
     
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  4. DetroitNole

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    Depth/ahl center
     
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  5. Vinegar Strokes

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    Huge get for Grand Rapids
     
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  6. DetroitNole

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  7. DeToxRox

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    Good deal for a decent player but also where are we putting all these guys
     
  8. Manny

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    Vin & I have timeshare on this island. We're never leaving.
     
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  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    What’s Dennis choblowski up to these days ?
     
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  10. Lip

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    Canesfan said edvinsson for ekblad

    yzerman should be hung in the streets if he did that
     
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  11. DeToxRox

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    I don’t think there is a world where Yzerman trades Edvinsson but shit is crazy right now with all these LHD. Granted a few can play the right side but still.
     
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  12. Lip

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    ghost replacement?
     
  13. DeToxRox

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    Yeah Gustafsson is for sure.
     
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  14. The Banks

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    Canesfan thinks Ekblad should go in the rafters so take that for what it’s worth.
     
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  15. Lip

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    At half the price. Don’t hate it
     
  16. Manny

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    Is this where we are at?

    Cat-Larkin-Kane
    Raymond-Compher-???
    Ras-Copp-???
    Fabbri-Veleno-???

    (Berggren, Mazur, Danielson, Kasper)

    Chiarot-Seider
    Edvinsson-???
    Gustafsson-???

    (RD Petry, LD Maata, RD Holl, LD Johansson, LD Lagesson)
     
  17. DeToxRox

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    Pretty much. Maata and Chiarot can play the right side so there is flexibility there but that right side is still terrible.
     
  18. Manny

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    Kane: re-signed 1 yr

    Perron: OTT 2x4

    Fischer: TBD (could see a return)

    Sprong: TBD (gone imo)

    Ghost: TBD (gone imo)

    Reimer: TBD (definitely gone)
     
  19. DeToxRox

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  20. DeToxRox

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    So Cossa and Campbell in GR. If you’re adding a vet (albeit a bad one) to GR like Campbell you gotta be planning something with one of the three under NHL deals.
     
  21. DeToxRox

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    Husso is either getting LTIR’d or traded with retention or a sweetener. Or we are just going to force Veleno or Berggren to arbitration so we can open up another buyout window.
     
  22. DetroitNole

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    I'm confused to what's going on at goalie.
     
  23. The Banks

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    Cossa/Campbell in GR. Lyon/Talbot in Detroit. Husso, tbd.
     
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  24. DetroitNole

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    A lot of TBD going on right now. Hoping it makes some more sense soon.
     
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  25. Vinegar Strokes

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    So we gave up 2nd rounder to free up cap space, and did nothing meaningful with it?
     
  26. DetroitNole

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    Well if we trade for Trouba or Ekblad we going to need the cap space.
     
  27. Vinegar Strokes

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    doubt that happens, but would be only thing that saves Stevie from that awful trade.
     
  28. DetroitNole

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    We made our biggest move last year on July 10th. Let's give it a couple weeks before completely jumping off the deep end. But overall, something else definitely needs to happen
     
  29. ~ taylor ~

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    In fact, it may makes sense to let the dust settle a bit rather than doing something rash.
     
  30. DetroitNole

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  31. Lip

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    that number makes more sense than the 4 or 5 people were throwing around before
     
  32. DeToxRox

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  33. DetroitNole

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    Honestly I like Fischer back for our 4th line
     
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  34. DeToxRox

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    Fischer is fine. Guy played with fire all season long and has some positional versatility. Not going to lose sleep over it at the cost.
     
  35. Lip

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    how many of the 23 spots are filled now?
     
  36. DeToxRox

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    Technically all of them but that’s including guys like Jack Campbell.
     
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  37. DeToxRox

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    Just spitballing the roster that makes the most sense as of right now:

    DeBrincat - Larkin - Kane
    ??? - Compher - Raymond
    Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur
    Fischer - Veleno - Fabbri

    Options:

    Berggren, Kasper, Danielson

    Needs: Top six winger, depth forward (unlikely to be a kid)

    Chiarot - Seider
    Edvinsson- ???
    Gustafsson - ???
    ???
    ???

    Options: Johansson, Maata, Petry, Holl, Lagesson

    Needs: Top 4 RD, bottom pair RD, depth D

    Talbot
    Lyon
    Husso

    I don’t think we keep three goalies so we shall see what happens there. Husso is the one that should go but Lyon is probably easiest to move.
     
  38. DetroitNole

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    Are you including Mazur, Danielson, Kasper?

    Because not counting those I think they still need 2 forwards. But they have more than enough defense and goalies (quality can vary)
     
  39. Manny

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    Cat-Larkin-Kane
    Raymond-Compher-???
    Ras-Copp-Fischer
    Fabbri-Veleno-???

    (Berggren, Mazur, Danielson, Kasper)

    Chiarot-Seider
    Edvinsson-???
    Gustafsson-???

    (RD Petry, LD/RD Maata, RD Holl, LD Johansson, LD Lagesson


    Kane: re-signed 1 yr

    Perron: OTT 2x4

    Fischer: re-signed 1 yr 1.125m

    Sprong: TBD (gone imo)

    Ghost: 3x3.2M CAR

    Reimer: TBD (definitely gone)
     
  40. DetroitNole

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    Rasmussen having a rebound year next season could be really useful.

    Edit - not sure rebound is right term, but was expecting more last year based on how he looked two years ago in stretches
     
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  41. ~ taylor ~

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    Kasper has to be on the team.
     
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  42. hoss2183

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    What a boring fucking day
     
  43. ~ taylor ~

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    I’m going to be glad about what we didn’t do rather than sad about we did do, but I hate the Gustafsson signing. We don’t need more defense we need to hide.
     
  44. DetroitNole

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    There needs to be a few more moves to make some things make sense, so I can understand some of the being upset. But I mean all I usually hear is Yzerman gives bad contacts to vets who are blocking our young guys. The offseason he doesn't do it and everyone freaks out.

    I'm not quite sure we should throw 4 rookies out there, but honestly we have a few that should be ready.
     
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  45. The Banks

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    Zero issue with starting four rookies. Johansson has played pro hockey for 5 seasons including 2 in NA. Edvinsson has played 4/2 plus 25 NHL games. Mazur should be fine if his body can handle the physicality. Berggren should’ve been playing in the NHL all of last season. Kasper plays a pro style game that should translate well.
     
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  46. DeToxRox

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    If we have 3-4 rookies in the lineup we will definitely take a step back in 24 but it can be the springboard to being competitive in 25 when our cap situation starts to clear itself up.

    The only way this offseason is a failure is if Yzerman doesn’t give kids an honest chance to make the team.
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    giving kids a chance worked out well for the Tigers.
     
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  48. DetroitNole

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    Well if the wings kids are as bad as the Tigers they are in trouble regardless of what they do in FA. Only one way to find out
     
  49. DetroitNole

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    Rangers fans are getting vicious with Trouba and it's insane. How dare he exercise a right in his contract to do what's best for his family. What a jerk
     
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  50. Manny

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    Really loading up on the 2014-2015 UM hockey team.
     
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