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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by racer, Apr 8, 2021.
The EPA tests EVs, their results are just impossible to duplicate in real world driving. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/amp32603216/ev-range-explained/
I imagine the EPA test is manufacturer-friendly by design to help promote broad EV adoption.
You may want to wait until next year; looks like there will be more choices.
Part of the issue is how many kWhs are in reserve. Tesla is rumored to be able to go about 10-20 extra miles beyond 0.
Every MPH over 65-70 is exponential.
If she went 70, she would have made it no problem and saved time.
I think my wife fell in love with the ID.4 today
What's the rough timeline from if you decide to purchase to actual delivery?
Why even release this tub of shit?
Do you like slow cars that can’t drive very far? Me too! And if that’s not enough get ready…. Because it’s ugly as shit, has very little leg room/storage, and it’s a lot more expensive than it should be!
but wait, there’s more! To supplement its complete lack of range we’re going to bolster it with an engine that was obsolete by 1920!
Mazda's "most unconventional yet" fucking killed me
No idea. Probably depends on the particular variant. Manager said they just go down the list until somebody answers the phone and says they want the car
VW website has an option to reserve, don't know how long that takes
Yea, obviously I know it's a complicated system but some of these car dealerships make me feel like I'm doing a damn drug deal to try to get specifics on when they'll have electric inventory available for purchase.
Maybe they just don't know. VW manager said that the chip shortage has really fucked them
Also test drove a Leaf today. Wanted to like it, but didn't. Just not comfortable for my legs. Wife liked it just fine, but she's 5'4" . Bumpy ride too. Peppy, tho
I've taken enough ubers in Leafs to know you don't want to commit long term to that.
A friend of mine that works in Marketing for Chevy basically said it's 2025 before I could get what I was asking for.
So I've got that going for me.
just get a rav4 hybrid to hold you over
You can release that under 25k but gtfo pricing it like every other EV.
Yeah, you can buy a 1-2 year old Bolt that will perform better for under 20k. The chances of exploding are probably minimal.
I will say one thing about the Tesla range, in my experience the estimated battery percentage at arrival is very accurate. On long trips it'll usually be within a couple percentage points from where it said I would arrive which I have been very impressed by.
Am I an old geez for loving the way the caddy lyriq looks?
Nah I think it looks cool. I’d just like if the designers would backoff some of the futuristic styling or adding blue trim everywhere for no reason.
This was heading from South Florida to Orlando.
I only have experience driving the Nissan Leaf, Tesla Y, and Ford Mach-E, so I'm only speaking to those 3.
This is what we bought, so there is some inherent bias. It's very spacious in the cab. Much more than when I was in the Mach-E. I'm 6'4 and my head has about 4" from the ceiling which I don't think I've ever had in a car/SUV before. The range sounded good on paper, but my wife couldn't make a 200 mile trip without stopping (driving 90mph). Enough space for a golden retriever in the back when going to the park.
Seemed smaller and tighter than Tesla. I liked that it was more "car-like" as in not a spaceship like a Tesla. Their range is much more honest. I have only driven one for about 50 miles, so don't have extensive knowledge of battery other than what I've read online. I didn't go with this becasue it wasn't roomie enough for my liking and I'm not a big fan of the typical person that drives a Mustang/Camaro. Didn't think there was enough space for our dog in the back.
LOL. Based on your internet persona, I can't see you ever driving one of these (I wouldn't want to drive it either).
Edit: I didn't see racer posted a video on this. Haven't watched it yet, but I'm curious to see if my "feel" is correct.
2022 Mach-E lineup changes. Assuming the 91 and 70kwh will be pushed by OTA to 21s. That’s 3kwh increase over what’s open now. Also heard they’ve retooled a few things like removing parking brake pawls to save some lbs and tick up efficiency a little.
CART1 adds AWD option and standard heated seats/wheel. Paint selection adds orange and grabber blue to all models. Adds ice blue. Removes silver and gray.
Side note, I’m a little annoyed that they’re opening grabber blue to all when it was exclusive to GT and First editions. My resale probably takes a hit from that.
I was going between painting the brake calipers on our Model Y or just leaving it be. I saw that you can buy covers and just ordered some. They don't look cheap to me. At first, I was afraid they'd look like those plastic spinner rims people used to get.
Mine would look really similar to this (tint would be only difference):
All in on this Rivian R1T after reading reviews. Thoughts from the thread?
Test drove an id.4 today. Reserved a blue Pro S RWD immediately afterward
Ford is putting a plant in West Tennessee that will build their electric trucks.
Looks really good. Concerns mainly about it being the company’s first ever product. I want to see thorough testing and real world miles.
Well, fuck me. I guess that kills my roady across Canada.
Most EVs do this. It’s to prevent people from going below the true 10-15% final charge of the battery, since that low of a state of charge is awful for lithium ion batteries. They’re trying to protect us from our ignorance of battery tech...and they don’t want their battery packs crapping out before warranty (bad publicity, too).
I think the R1S looks great
The Tesla Y rides pretty bad. The car I typically drive to work is a 2020 Nissan Murano Platinum. I've used the Tesla the last couple of days as my wife took my car to Orlando. Not sure if my car (nissan) is just that much better, or if the Tesla rides like shit. You feel every bump.
Y and X both imho. I just don't really enjoy them that much.
I've had both an S and a 3. I really liked the S but its just a massive car. There were times when it felt like I was driving a really fast Buick. I absolutely adore my 3, though. LR + boost package has proven to be a solid combo for me.
I think the feeling the bumps is a suspension choice to give it better handling. Stiffer suspension = better handling = feel the road more.
Doubt your murano could corner like the Y which is the trade off.
That's a horribly damning statement
Back in July I was getting tips from a neighbor who jumped in to electrics a few years ago and has owned a Leaf, i3, Tesla, and eGolf. He told me he'd tested a Bolt but couldn't take it because "it drives like a Chevy." He didn't have to say more
Showed my wife the Rivian Truck and SUV. She approves. Still need to see some more but at least I checked the first box.
do you have the 20" wheels?
i've heard those are pretty rough
I found it to be a great car, good for family and where we were at the time. We had the third row trunk seats and small kids and in-laws. We could fit 6-7 just fine. It handles well and it was fast, it’s just… it’s a really fucking heavy car and I felt like I could feel it. Especially when trying to park that fucking boat.
IMHO the Model 3 is just a better car. We have a minivan now and don’t need the S’s size anymore, so while I miss that one aspect of it, the 3 is just like… pure fun. It’s faster than my S was, it’s small and zippy and until this last update was a more advanced car to boot.
“No gas pony”
What happened with this last update that changed things?
Ya, we have the 20" wheels. They look better and it was the only way to get black on black look we wanted. Didn't realize it'd come at that big of a cost.
IDK about the Nogs part...
Racist TMB via 2010
There was just a lot of design flaws (imho) with the "old" model s (the refresh having the horizontal screen and the 'old' model having the vertical)
The vertical middle screen / computer on the S (forgot what they call it) was pretty poorly designed right up until the end. The flash storage they used has a really short lifespan and even though it was like $25 to fix in terms of raw cost, the service centers were so busy they would only swap it out entirely. They made it warranty-voiding for third parties to fix it. I think I replaced the whole thing 2 times and then on the 3rd death is when I traded in for the 3. I owned the car from 2013 to 2020 and it had maybe 90,000 miles on it. So basically every 2 years or so.
And then just a million small fit and finish things that Tesla learned over the lifespan of that design. The front hood, for instance, used to dent super easily if you used the frunk. Mine was dented before I even got the car home just by closing it -- Tesla would never cover them because they said owners were 'closing it wrong,' which is just nonsense. Go find an 'early' S and just about all of them have hood dents at this point or have new hoods entirely (which is what I eventually did)
Model S ownership from 2013 to 2020 -- replaced all the door handles once or twice, fixed an issue with the roof, replaced the hood, replaced the computer 2 times and needed a 3rd, had to replace the 4g modem and then later replaced an upgraded LTE modem, and the big ticket one -- replaced the entire drive train.
Over 7-ish years, 90k-ish miles.
The only issue I have with the model 3 is the 'leather' around the steering wheel gets loose from the Florida sun. The glue isn't holding up and Tesla won't do anything for it, but... it's minor and kind of comes and goes.
Was the power train warrantied? I’ve seen reports of fleet 3’s approaching 500k without too much in the way of issues. Obviously 5+ years of dev over your S helps.
I had this problem with my old Murano. I took it in for an oil change and mentioned it. They replaced the entire steering wheel column with no problems.
I tinted our windshield 70% with acrylic tint to help stymie the sun some. I tried doing those windshield sun blocker things that old people use and it always pissed me off to try and get set up in the windshield and then take down when I got in, so I threw it away.